What's the game like now?
Swdgy - Heavens Tear
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The last time I logged in was like 3.5 years ago so I'm guessing they changed quite a bit of stuff. The reason I quit was because I needed to grind TT for 40+ hours to get materials for like 1/2 of a single TT90 gear. Also, all the necessities in the game for it to be remotely fun was so expensive (charms/ cube/ even skills?).
What I'm getting at is: is the game still as P2W as it was before or did they at least try to balance it a bit between the P2W and F2P?
What I'm getting at is: is the game still as P2W as it was before or did they at least try to balance it a bit between the P2W and F2P?
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Endgame - Pay, merchant, farm
Not endgame - farmable, easy pace.
Endgame = R9 3rd cast, +12 JOSD, NW gear
Not Endgame = depends on what you want and how quickly you want it.0 -
That game was/is F2P, you just need to know how to do it. If you didn't know how 3.5 years ago than you won't know how now.
There's a lot of new gears/skills since you left, there's even a rebirth future which is once you reach lvl 100-105, you get back to lvl 1 and do again 1-100 and you can do rebirth 2 times. (that give more stats and new skills opportunities.
If farming TT was too much for you then GL with all the new stuffs, you will prolly end by leaving again.
People lvl faster these days, gears are better, it's easier to solo stuff, but the economy did crash and it's harder to make money if you don't know how.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »That game was/is F2P, you just need to know how to do it. If you didn't know how 3.5 years ago than you won't know how now.
There's a lot of new gears/skills since you left, there's even a rebirth future which is once you reach lvl 100-105, you get back to lvl 1 and do again 1-100 and you can do rebirth 2 times. (that give more stats and new skills opportunities.
If farming TT was too much for you then GL with all the new stuffs, you will prolly end by leaving again.
People lvl faster these days, gears are better, it's easier to solo stuff, but the economy did crash and it's harder to make money if you don't know how.
Exist players, which have too much time or more computers, than they need, or very rich, or which were "very lucky" and suddenly got gear/equipment/coins/gold/help from their friends.
They tell, that game is easy, that all is good, that every smart player can play this game, but then they tell about "economy did crash" and not all is good as they described.0 -
It sucks.
They try to **** of their customers in every possible way. Including but not limited to:
-Not fixing glitches/abuses.
-Increasing already rediculous prices on items that are as old as my grandmother.-
-No longer having corresponding items be on sale together. (Mogs & GSTs) Not putting the mogs on sale in the next 2 weeks while everyone is waiting for it either.Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.0 -
Swdgy - Heavens Tear wrote: »The last time I logged in was like 3.5 years ago so I'm guessing they changed quite a bit of stuff. The reason I quit was because I needed to grind TT for 40+ hours to get materials for like 1/2 of a single TT90 gear. Also, all the necessities in the game for it to be remotely fun was so expensive (charms/ cube/ even skills?).
What I'm getting at is: is the game still as P2W as it was before or did they at least try to balance it a bit between the P2W and F2P?
Getting gear for pve purpose is easy. At some point, you will be able to have some fun TW/NW if you don't put your expectations to high. I know many of those. We have fun in NW and stuff. But the key is that they don't care about winning all the time and killing big names.
To become "competitive" while not having something to start from, the game has made the gap very big depending on servers. If you really want to become a factor pk wise, you need to put a lot of time in (not just for money, but also to catch up with a crapload of things like Morai skills) and be motivated enough for the money part. The money part really needs motivation these days. It's very possible to be f2p and go from scratch to strong even these days, but the amount of time/dedication needed is unhealthy imo. The ratio between rl time needed to save for "end game" stuff vs ingame time needed is to far off these days. This pretty much exclusively concerns "end game" stuff though. The low-cost alternatives without the super shards/refines are very accessible for even casual players, like I said above.0 -
Easy now just go farm coin in bot mode then buy your gear its a whole lot cheaper now than before,then rinse and repeat till 100+ on multiple toons and just do daily BH 1's for chance to gain 2-5 mill cards or mirages and other stuff to sell for profit..thats all I do and im about to hit 300millb:bye0
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3,5 years ago?
Login, walk around. Try new features, look at the prices. I'm sure you'll hate it. b:laugh[S.E.V.C.H.E.N.K.O]
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Swdgy - Heavens Tear wrote: »The last time I logged in was like 3.5 years ago so I'm guessing they changed quite a bit of stuff. The reason I quit was because I needed to grind TT for 40+ hours to get materials for like 1/2 of a single TT90 gear. Also, all the necessities in the game for it to be remotely fun was so expensive (charms/ cube/ even skills?).
What I'm getting at is: is the game still as P2W as it was before or did they at least try to balance it a bit between the P2W and F2P?
A lot has change since that time. In some aspects, the game has become easier. In others it has become harder.
TT90 is still a looming goal for you, however there are now more avenues to farm the coin needed to purchase the gear.
Leveling has also become easier with FC runs (Frostcovered City experience dungeon, run with hypers) become much more commonplace.
For Balancing, PVE wise, it is more balanced to do things that you wish to do, though the gap is still there...its not nearly as bad as it was in the nirvana era.
PVP wise: LOL. That's not balanced at all. R9rr (Much more advanced version of the regular R9 that you're accustomed to) is dominant by a ways.
I'm going to list some ways that the game has changed over the years.
Nation Wars: This an optional pvp event, where you do not lose items. I advise you to join it, and attack whatever you can. You're going to die....A LOT. But you're not doing this for ego reasons. You're here to get the supply tokens you're awarded at the end of it. With those, you can get rapture crystals, and uncannies...which you can sell for coin, or use for advanced gear.
Nirvana: Not the instance, I'm talking about the gear. The instance now collects dust, and the bosses are so lonely, they're talking to the walls. The gear now best suited for F2p players will involve this gear. This is how it goes...
TT90-->TT99 Gold-->TT Nirvana G13 (Grade 13) --> TT Nirvana Grade 15 --> TT Nirvana G16. (This is the bound path. If you recall, TT99 gold, and all of its nirvana counterparts are bound.
The unbound path is Lunar.
Lunar Gold 95--> Lunar Nirvana G13 --> Lunar Nirvana G15 --> Lunar Nirvana G16
If your blacksmith and tailor skills, are not maxed, then I advise you to make some friends, or faction mates whose skills are.
This is particularly true with the TT path, because TT99 gold requires Level 7 blacksmith/tailor to craft.
Nirvana G13 and G15 require Level 6 blacksmith/tailor skills to craft.
Nirvana G16 only requires level 1 skill to craft.
For this reason, if your blacksmith/tailor skills are not maxed, then I advise you to:
Aim for Morai gear to hold you over until you can equip it at the G15 state.
Morai is a new area that has a lot of new skills, found in each individual order. It also has new skills, and a new dungeon.
In regards to the gear that I was just speaking on, PVE wise, Morai is considered an optional endgame route. But this is strictly PVE. While you are crafting your gear, if your blacksmith/tailor levels are at a level where you cannot upgrade them yourself, then I strongly advise you to use Morai gear to hold you over in the meantime.
I advise you to aim for G16, as it is the second best gear. (On par with regular R9), and it is viable pvp gear. Morai gear will cause you to get completely owned in the pvp department. This is because the power of Morai gear is dependent upon 2 stats...Slaying levels. (Attack levels on mobs), and Warding levels. (Defense levels on mobs.) This means nothing in pvp.
There are new skills, from the two new areas.
Morai: Where you can get your Morai gear, and where you can get your skills.
There are skills found in each order, so after leaving one order, you can join another. I advise you to get your skills in the order first, and going to choose which one you want next. (Look into it to find the order that's best for you.)
Primal Area: As Bella mentioned, there is a Rebirth feature. This allows you to start from level 1, from level 100-105, granting you additional stat points, and allowing you access to the new primal area, and its benefits.
Primal Area Skills: Each class has upgrades (Some of these upgrades are considered downgrades, so look carefully) of some of their skills. Some of these upgrades require you to merge 2+ skills. Others require you to simply upgrade an existing skill. Research it, and choose for yourself if you want to.
We also have all class passives, which increase our crit rate, defenses (physical and magical), and attack power.
We also have the dungeon FSP (Flowsilver Palace), which allows for getting pages to be EASY. This means that A LOT of sage/demon skills are A LOT cheaper than they used to be, as pages are more commonplace now then they were before.
The aps era has largely ended. So has the "link your weapon" era. These factors are still in existence, but not nearly to the degree that they were before.
Some genie skills have been changed some, as have some sage/demon skills.
Chrono pages are easier to obtain. Not completely cheap, but it IS easier to obtain your level 100 skills now.
Auto-cultivation: This is legal botting. It allows you to set your toon on a macro, and have it auto-attack with said macro. You can allow it to pick up coins, and items, which you can in turn, npc for coin.
Realm of Reflection: Afk zone where you can gain xp by doing nothing. XP gain is marginal, but...you're not doing anything...
Lower leveled areas have had their DQ items prices nerfed to 1 coin. These means that until you're level 80's+, which you are, npc'ing DQ items isn't worth it.
DQ page disabled. Sorry, but it is...until further notice.
Arc is a new system, instead of core connect. It's PWI's bootleg version of St*am. (I can't say the system and game on the forums, so I'll say this...Think about what water turns into as it gets hot. Arc is PWI's bootleg version of that.)
R8r is now an option, if you were considering the R8 path, this is an advancement on it. Same for R9 gear.
Warsoul...though still supremely expensive, is more easily obtained.
Full Warsong's are run now, and the instance has changed some.
SoT, and Abba have changed.
Lunar is run more often now.
Coin nerfed in delta.
Cultivation quests made easier.
All 4 maps of OHT are given to you, as far as I understand.
Bh rewards have changed from what you were used to. (If you had any level 100+ toons.)
Prices on ultimate substance went down a lot.
These are a few changes that have been implemented. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions, or require more clarification. Hopefully this helps."Male Player using female toon. Please don't flirt with me."
Need to see the cleric guide for questions, comments, or concerns? Just copy and paste the link.
"http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1246011"
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SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver wrote: »A lot has change since that time. In some aspects, the game has become easier. In others it has become harder.
What they mean by easy is that you can buy end game gear. No need to farm for it.
What they mean by hard is that people buy end game gear.
To answer Swdgy. (my response is coming from playing on a pvp server)
TT is a dead instance now (See above). They are solo-able and the drops are horrendous and now even worth the few minutes it takes to run them now. An almost dead instance. Pretty much only ran now for a BH quest that pops up every now and then.
YES it is still play to win. No they did not try to balance between play to win/pay to win. Every time people found a way to make coin, they come out with something that ruined it.
Example 1: Nirvana. Good instance to farm and make coin. Now it is a completely useless instance. Seriously it is. Boobies on a nun have more of a use then Nirvana. It serves zero purpose now. Not even sure why they still have it available.
They made an event called nation wars in which your reward can be traded to make a **** ton of canny and rapture crystals (the drops from nirvana). What was once worth 1Mil is now worth about 50k. It has been a while since I even checked prices or remember what prices were.
Example 2: Old Book pages and Pages of Fate. These were a decent coin haul. They were until they made the FSP instance. In which your rewards could be traded to make these. The prices went from 600K average to what? 30K now? Again, been a while since I checked prices.
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It's like what Broly did to vegeta in DBZ, getting dragged face first through the ground and waiting to be thrown away. 'Nuff said.0
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FlyingStab wrote:About 1 year ago the PWI staff decide to create a some kind of prize delivering system so people could redeem things online. U was able to redeem some specials codes and those codes could give u items on ur mailbox. Result: They fail at coding and people exploited till get ton of dreamchaser packs with the free orbs and exp necklace.
A few months after that PWI staff decide to change the anniversary gift delivering system that worked perfectly for them previous years and send specials codes for each account according to the mails that each account had registered. Result: Ton of people never got their mails, the codes were not account bounded so people start selling them or using the codes from alts accounts, after all that madness they just made 1 code so everyone could get all the prizes and it didnt matter if they were 1 month accounts or their most loyal players that was there since the start.
Like a month later they bring us a new expansion with the title system. Result: more than half of the quests chains were bugged at some point so people couldnt get those "titles". On other hand those months were by far the less stable months and basically every single week they had problems to put the server back on after the maintenance (and when i mean each week is basically that, just look for maint threads of that period and see what i mean). Moreover, they forgot to close one door, people who knew that on the expansion we should get also a new dungeon went to the place it was supposed to be but the door wasnt there............. till u just hump the wall on the place the door was supposed to be and u was able to enter a full functional/translated dungeon that PWI staff never wanted we had.
A few month after that we got the first roll back, after all those fails and delayed maintenances Archosaur server suffered a roll back. The staff failed to save the info and had to roll back the data a few days. The server was so bad that they didnt even check the results of the TWs and then mess up the bids of next week, so suddenly some faction appeared to attack lands they already own. The things were so bad that they decide to compensate the people that logged on the game during that period and that compensation it was going to be 3x10* orbs. Again they decide to use the system that fail them a few months before that and send personal codes to each mail on each account that loged during that period. Of course that soultion fail again because those codes where wrong programated so instead of being able to be redeemed just on the account they were meant to be they were sold on each single server of PWI and the people with multiple account was able to send all the codes to 1 single account. Once PWI saw how bad they messed up the things they decide to change that and make one universal code so everyone was going to get 3x10* orbs but just once. Of course they fail again because they fail programating the codes and people was able to redeem the code multiple times. Lot of people got tons of 10* orbs meanwhile a lot more people never had the chance to redeem it even once cause they webpage collapse and then they made the code expire. The result of all that madness was that PWi staf perma banned a few non-csers account and for most of the accounts it was a 2 weeks ban (or no punishment) and after that time they were back online with all theirs refines. A few weeks after that roll back they had to roll back morai server too, but this time as a compensation reward they give 1 dreamchaser pack 0.o.
After all that the staff was once again on the situation of having to compensate the comunity again, so meanwhile the whole comunity was actually begging on forums for another roll back or at least they remove the refines to the people they knew they abuse the codes they just bringed a new expansion with all the comunity asking for dont bring anything else, just solve the bugs we were already having.
We finnally got the latest expansion and i have to say that it worked much better than previous and it actually solved some bugs (and title broken chains). At same time they started pushing and pushing with arc implementation so people cant use the game without having their totally unneeded for game external program. At the beginning they were just offering expecial codes (yeah, codes again) that could only be redeemed using arc and once per account, then they start forcing the usage of that program till the point of not let u log on the game unless u use their extra program that has nothing to do with the game, unless u find a way to bypass it. Basically, they indeed got the expansion that worked the best from the begining, but at same time they annoy a large % of the comunity when they got forced to install a program they never wanted.
But nope, its not the end because they neverending mistake still keep coming back. When they start programating the codes they fail once again and now its true that u can use the arc codes just once per account, but there is a exploit (that by now everyone knows how it works) that let u trade those items, so bascially people just create accounts and then send the goodies to his main or just sale them till this point http://i61.tinypic.com/107tddz.jpg. Yes, this guy created at least 51 accounts just to get 51 plat charm and of course those are the ones he is selling, who knows how many he got on the inv of his main. On other hand, i dont play on Morai but considering that everyone is reporting that there is no gold for sale or at top possible prize it looks kinda a syntome that people just stoped csing there, so is hard to predict how long is going to last that server (dont forget they already had to do a merge for them that doesnt seem it worked).
I think u can get a good idea about the state of the game rigth now reading about what is currently happening on the game.0 -
I will say that some of the stuff above me is grossly misrepresented. Like for example...the codes given to archo people initially were not bugged. They were not given restrictions on how they wanted to use them. The servers were experiencing some technical difficulties and if someone didn't want to use it on their own toon on a buggy server and instead use it on their alts on a different server they were permitted to do so. They were just given compensation, point blank, for their troubles. The value of that compensation at today's prices is like 150 dollars. The people then were not exploiting anything, they were using their compensation as they saw fit and were not forced to only use them on what was a defective product. There was an outcry about that because people did not want the codes being used on their server because they felt it was unfair that they had to deal with it when their server experienced no issues. After all they have to compete against those people. So PWI released the code to everyone. The website couldn't handle the massive traffic that ensued in the frenzy to get orbs, and as such it did bug out and give many people more than they should have received. Some abusers were banned for doing it on purpose but the severity of many of the bans left a LOT to be desired to put it mildly.
Due to having many products taken from them, they weren't able to continue the promotion and instead narrowed their focus to the actual compensation for technical difficulties. This happens all over the world when shoplifting happens at promotions, and this wasn't any different. By that I do not mean abusers are the same shoplifters, because they clearly are not. It's not a physical good that cost much to make. Just that it had the same real world effect on revenue, subsequent pricing, and availability. This obviously left a bad taste in people's mouths because some people got more than they should have (innocently and non-innocently) while some received nothing.
As for Arc, it was forced implementation because their previous provider Pando Media Booster, did go under and sell of it's patents. Causing a patent troll to go after companies using it. To avoid legal issues they decide to replace Pando with their own installer. Not only would this prevent legal issues but it allowed for them to have more control over the download process and to centralize their installers so that if you want to play numerous games you don't need 20 installers. Arc became mandatory as a result of this for downloading the game handling the patches. People were not happy about it. Nobody really wants to use the software to handle the patches because the old patcher is also still part of the process, and for people who only want to play one game it's pretty much bloatware. However, the installer is still in development and they plan on making it more worth using in the future. That said it did allow them to offer the in-game blessings that went from having to sign up for facebook and limited to one per day to per account, to as many as you wanted on your account without needing facebook. This did streamline the hassle of that.
If you do not mind Steam, Arc probably won't be a big deal around it. And there are workarounds if you don't want to run it. Lots of people don't even have installed thanks to these workarounds.
But yeah, that should better clarify what's going on as far as this game as managed.
Now if you want to know about P2W, it really depends on if you're a primarily PvE player or PvP player.
If you are primarily PvE, gear and levels have never been easier to obtain. You don't need to grind for 40 hours just to participate and can get into any farming instance easily. The game has become more instance based instead of the grindfest it used to be.
If you are a primarily PvP player, there is good news and bad news. The bad news is still P2W. However, if you are good at making money and learn to merchant, you can get r999 again. And the gear needed to properly farm is very easy to get.
In addition while you will need endgame gear to be really competitive, you do NOT need to be really competitive to enjoy PVP every now and then. There is the theater of blood every week, which offers some risk free PK you can enjoy. And there is nation wars now, which can actually help fund your gear to get better. It's every week, it's risk free, it's group PK, and you can make money on it. And you can do well in it, no matter your gear. Although you'll have to deal with occasionally being rolled if you are not the best of the best geared.
Overall this game still has many good points and many bad points. I don't know your tastes so I cannot say if it is for you.0 -
Can you explain, please ?oVenusArmanio wrote: »...If you are primarily PvE, gear and levels have never been easier to obtain. You don't need to grind for 40 hours just to participate and can get into any farming instance easily. The game has become more instance based instead of the grindfest it used to be...
What is cost of PvE skills (Demon or Sage) now ?
Can you get them easy ?
I could not buy Demon Divine Pyrogram and Demon Stone Barrier "easy" ...
Also, to get R8 armor I had been forced to grind anyway.
I not say about R9 though ...
Or about PvP, which I hate.0 -
Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »Can you explain, please ?
What is cost of PvE skills (Demon or Sage) now ?
Can you get them easy ?
I could not buy Demon Divine Pyrogram and Demon Stone Barrier "easy" ...
Also, to get R8 armor I had been forced to grind anyway.
I not say about R9 though ...
Or about PvP, which I hate.
For PVE wise, no sage/demon skill is needed, but they are more easy than ever to obtain (Thx to FPS the pages price did drop to around 100k so did the price of the skills), to do PVE no need much, just enough gears to survive and pots. G16 is the most easiest thing to get and is way more than enough for any PVE.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »For PVE wise, no sage/demon skill is needed, but they are more easy than ever to obtain (Thx to FPS the pages price did drop to around 100k so did the price of the skills), to do PVE no need much, just enough gears to survive and pots. G16 is the most easiest thing to get and is way more than enough for any PVE.
I need 50 Mysterious Pages to get RANDOM skill book, which can have Demon Stone Barrier with chance like 5% ...
●Divine Pyrogram (5%)
●Stone Barrier (5%)
What is cost of it now ?
Here is link:
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/quest/10097
And remember, I have not money or spirit for other skill books, which can drop during this lottery.
Also I not need other skills.
Also ... do YOU really think, that Mysterious Pages drop in FPS ???
See link, it drop from item boutique - Tokens of Luck:
http://www.pwdatabase.com/ms/items/181860 -
Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »I need 50 Mysterious Pages to get RANDOM skill book, which can have Demon Stone Barrier with chance like 5% ...
●Divine Pyrogram (5%)
●Stone Barrier (5%)
What is cost of it now ?
Here is link:
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/quest/10097
And remember, I have not money or spirit for other skill books, which can drop during this lottery.
Also I not need other skills.
Also ... do YOU really think, that Mysterious Pages drop in FPS ???
See link, it drop from item boutique - Tokens of Luck:
http://www.pwdatabase.com/ms/items/18186
Old book pages and pages of fate drop in FSP (well, can be made from the coins), which makes that there is a larger portion of books easily accessible.
The thing with skills is the same as for the rest : getting the basic part to play is easy and accessible even for casual players, going for competitive pvp is exponentially expensive to a point that it's ridiculous (same for the gap in power between the 2).0 -
Problem is:Old book pages and pages of fate drop in FSP (well, can be made from the coins), which makes that there is a larger portion of books easily accessible.
The thing with skills is the same as for the rest : getting the basic part to play is easy and accessible even for casual players, going for competitive pvp is exponentially expensive to a point that it's ridiculous (same for the gap in power between the 2).
most necessary Wizard Demon skills cost more, than skills, which are not used by me or give not essential changes.
I ask about needed skills only.
And skills, which change damage output by 1% at 1 element are not among them.
Demon Stone Barrier give best Defense and it is not available, Demon Divine Pyrogram has best damage output and it is very expensive too.
Those "Old book pages and pages of fate drop in FSP", which you talk about are useless for me.0 -
The game as it is still works good and it is fun to play with.
But pwi allso nearly killed gaming fun for the free players and pwi became more and more a cashshopper game. They do alot of zhen offers or any other offers that involves zhen/gold.
They killed the free DQ system and there is no more free dq reward items and free eventgold card. You still can get sage/demon eventgold cards participating in the zhen/gold offers.
They made a legal botting system but from my experience in morai server that the farmplaces are to overcrowded and it has nearly no use to go legal botting.
Becouse the lack of the free DQ reward system,all items that where previous on the DQ site are currently raising in prices becouse there is less and items availble on the server till everyone spend remaining dq rewards and then players are forced to use items that are bought with tokens of luck. (example do-all card for cube of faith)
Allso this has a big ripple in the economy in the server and prices are allmost raised by the day. (example cube of faith necklase it was before dq got killed 60-70 mils in catshop and now 120 mils in catshop)
Allso this has the same effect on the perfect stones price was before the dq got killed around 900-1k for perfect stone and now current price is around 5-10k.
So sooner or later players will run out of the free dq rewards and get more depended on the boutique/item mall.
Allso there is a lot of hearsay like there will not be a 2x item drop anymore or similer dq system will be implemented. And this allso has a negative impact on the inflation in morai server.
Do not get me wrong, game is still free to play but as of personal experience do not set your goals high and do not stare on the holy R9. Becouse soon r9.1 will be around 4-5kkk to obtain.
Either you make a farmer char that makes you a lot of coin or multiple chars who can bot etc.
Morai is a great server to play in and the community is still great but in the other hand like most pwi servers encounter is that there is a decline in new players and cashers.
And a lot of older free players deleted the game because things became just to expensive for them.0 -
only thing i can say is it's boring.
- No more DQ system
- Delete some useful stuff from Event Shop like silver guardian charm.
- Many many bugs and glitchs in game
- PVE stuff is boring easy farming, easy obtain and easy instance compare to gear (nirvT3 and instance)
- PVP stuff just for only who cash shop hard or farming,botting like 24/7 with their multi alts
- Selling gears and stuff through Shop if you have cash money just buy it is easy way.
- pvp it's not fun because of glitch player exploit it on their class like some skill hit through defense
level/damage reduction.
- Coin sink in game like getting stuff with packs/obtain good cards on packs/rolling weap gears for
good stat
- and if you want to be a famous or number 1 player in your game just depend on your wallet that you can pay to PWE
- and last thing i would say "to be No.1 or making your chars to be famous in game = Nothing" why? you know it's just game. it's not perfect world you play but it's a fake world that just entertain your free time.0 -
Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »I need 50 Mysterious Pages to get RANDOM skill book, which can have Demon Stone Barrier with chance like 5% ...
●Divine Pyrogram (5%)
●Stone Barrier (5%)
What is cost of it now ?
Here is link:
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/quest/10097
And remember, I have not money or spirit for other skill books, which can drop during this lottery.
Also I not need other skills.
Also ... do YOU really think, that Mysterious Pages drop in FPS ???
See link, it drop from item boutique - Tokens of Luck:
http://www.pwdatabase.com/ms/items/18186
Don't get r8 get g16 gear. It's more than enough. If you aren't interested in going to NW or doing any PVP whatsoever there also the morai gear that is only a little weaker than vanilla r9 against mobs. So either of those would be comparable and it's just a matter of which one you want to get. I personally recommend the g16 because you can use it nation wars while morai armor can't be used there. But since you don't sound you like PvP at all, Morai gear may actually be a better option for you since it's even easier than g16 to come by.
As for the skills some are expensive, but many of them are much cheaper now than they were before. IDK the price of on your server of those two skills but they aren't necessary to enjoy pvp and you can simply save for them after you've geared up and it's not hard to gear up.
- Delete some useful stuff from Event Shop like silver guardian charm.
That's temporary and should be back before the OP needs them.- pvp it's not fun because of glitch player exploit it on their class like some skill hit through defense
level/damage reduction.
The skills that hit through defense levels are not glitched, they are working as intended. Players are not wrong to use these skills and there is no exploitation involved there.
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oVenusArmanio wrote: »Don't get r8 get g16 gear. It's more than enough. If you aren't interested in going to NW or doing any PVP whatsoever there also the morai gear that is only a little weaker than vanilla r9 against mobs. So either of those would be comparable and it's just a matter of which one you want to get. I personally recommend the g16 because you can use it nation wars while morai armor can't be used there. But since you don't sound you like PvP at all, Morai gear may actually be a better option for you since it's even easier than g16 to come by.
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I have to agree with what you're saying here.
For my cleric, I got R8. At the time, it was competitive enough to keep on par with R9 (before recasts existed) because I was more skilled than most of my opponents. I mostly played PvE anyway and it was awesome for that.
Then while working on R8r, I discovered that I could get a bit better with G16, and R8r for my weapon so I switched to that path, and was quite happy, and still decently competitive with the R8rr-geared players.
Now I'm working on R9rrr for my final set, but I still have my G16, and will be passing it on to my wizard. My Seeker is going G16, and for him, the benefits are better than R8, though at some point I might get it just for the weapon to swap out. My veno plays almost purely PvE and I'll likely gear her with the Morai armor, but that's based entirely on cost of gear, and the fact that she doesn't PvP at all. My barb just trades out gear with my Seeker, which is shy I made the HA G16 from Lunar.
All in all though, G16 is extremely easy to farm and make, and is also competitive with the much more expensive Rank gear. Morai is fine if you only play casually, and don't bother with TW/NW. In any PvP battle, it's complete **** though and you might as well have +10 NPC armor.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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