demon/sage event card for sale?

RankNine - Momaganon
RankNine - Momaganon Posts: 1,241 Arc User
edited June 2014 in General Discussion
someone just linked a demon/sage event card ticket and tried to sell it on the Morai server. any idea how it works, if it works and if its within the rules?
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  • kallikashnikow
    kallikashnikow Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The event gold ticket doesnt have "Unable to be traded" attribute so being able to sell it should be legit. Dunno if its within the rules though. I personally wonder where that player got those event gold tickets, yesterday (or so) he had a dozen plus in his shop....
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  • WannaBM - Archosaur
    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    someone just linked a demon/sage event card ticket and tried to sell it on the Morai server. any idea how it works, if it works and if its within the rules?

    It is against the rules to sell them.
    It is also against the rules to discuss here how it works.
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  • Zanryu - Lothranis
    Zanryu - Lothranis Posts: 1,998 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Hahahaha oh wow, it finally made it to Morai huh?
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  • RankNine - Momaganon
    RankNine - Momaganon Posts: 1,241 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Hahahaha oh wow, it finally made it to Morai huh?

    yes but if he really had 12 of them, that means he must have bought items worth of 300 gold recently, which a) not too many people can do and b) is close to impossible on a server that has nobody cashing in anymore. so there is either a glitch to get those cards (code abuse?) or idk..
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  • Zanryu - Lothranis
    Zanryu - Lothranis Posts: 1,998 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    yes but if he really had 12 of them, that means he must have bought items worth of 300 gold recently, which a) not too many people can do and b) is close to impossible on a server that has nobody cashing in anymore. so there is either a glitch to get those cards (code abuse?) or idk..

    I can't discuss it on the forums. b:chuckle

    Though out of curiosity, what was he selling them for?
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  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It's an abuse that was discussed on these forums not that long ago. Against the rules, and can file a ticket against them.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It's like people selling permanent weapon fashion on HL.
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  • SakuLv - Dreamweaver
    SakuLv - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It's like people selling permanent weapon fashion on HL.

    I know how they make Event gold card tradeable but how is it possible to make Wep fash perma? if it has timer on it.
  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    yes but if he really had 12 of them, that means he must have bought items worth of 300 gold recently, which a) not too many people can do and b) is close to impossible on a server that has nobody cashing in anymore. so there is either a glitch to get those cards (code abuse?) or idk..

    Probably abused the Arc code before they fixed it, and just left most of it in the mailbox to sell over time.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited May 2014

    I know how they make Event gold card tradeable but how is it possible to make Wep fash perma? if it has timer on it.

    No timer on it, the shop's name is ''perm fash weap'':

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1147&u=15458938

    And here's a normal one with timer to compare:

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1148&u=15458938



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  • SakuLv - Dreamweaver
    SakuLv - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    No timer on it, the shop's name is ''perm fash weap'':

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1147&u=15458938

    And here's a normal one with timer to compare:

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1148&u=15458938




    Hmm all i could think of is- GM giving those out o.o
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited May 2014

    Hmm all i could think of is- GM giving those out o.o

    Those dear GMs gifting stuff. =3
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  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited May 2014
    Wasn't there a few people who accidentally NPC'ed their fashion weapon on each server that got it replaced with non-timed versions by accident? I remember that being a thing but not sure if it's true or not. :P I don't think they still do it judging by the lack of them. I just remember reading it on the forums and I haven't really seen one since then. :P

    Anyway, no hints of how to do this is allowed. :P So please don't keep posting it so we don't have to close this thread too. :P

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  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    No timer on it, the shop's name is ''perm fash weap'':

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1147&u=15458938

    And here's a normal one with timer to compare:

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1148&u=15458938




    there was a bug report (recently fixed) where gear didn't show if they were bound or unbound when sold in catshops. Could be that weapon fashion has the same problem, but with timers? (I don't know much about fashionstuff so could very well be I'm wrong..only reason I have 2 fashion sets is due to weddingb:thanks)
  • Sevchenko - Dreamweaver
    Sevchenko - Dreamweaver Posts: 661 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    This is a grotesque fail. I wouldn't even call this a "bug" or a "glitch" just a grotesque fail. b:laugh

    Its too easy to fix that, just go to the database and set the damn ticket to NO-trade, since they're too lazy to actually fixing the thing itself.

    I suggest you to ASK for an item editor directly from China so you don't go depending on them for everything, that's ridiculous really.
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  • God__himself - Archosaur
    God__himself - Archosaur Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The Arc Maintenance just fixed the exploit


    Thank god for that. Gold was being quickly inflated because of it and abusers were cheating their way to farm coins.b:thanks
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  • DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver
    DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    No timer on it, the shop's name is ''perm fash weap'':

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1147&u=15458938

    And here's a normal one with timer to compare:

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1148&u=15458938




    Have a sin use shadow sight on the shop and let him check the item, that also helped with the bound/unbound problem of shops when they would not show the will bind on equip text on gears.

    If it's permanent then the only way I could think of is by getting it from a GM.
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  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    WTF? Nothing has been fixed. Using the old VIP Crown and Event Gold codes that have been given out the last few months with newly created accounts still grants infinite Event cards and Charms.

    The items themself needs to be fixed. Whats weired is that the items can be sold although they got "cannot be traded" listed in their attributes. mhm.
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  • jam1e
    jam1e Posts: 3
    edited May 2014
    and reporting it like were were told by Kossy does no good. Ive reported some myself, got the usual "we will investigate" and 2 weeks later, the same people are still sitting around with shops set up. I have since quit playing cause if the staff doesnt care about the game, why should I want to play. ijs.
  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The items themself needs to be fixed. Whats weired is that the items can be sold although they got "cannot be traded" listed in their attributes. mhm.

    No they don't?
    They have the attribute "Cannot be Sold", meaning to npc's. They could still be traded and that wasn't in the attributes. You should read the items instead of listening what people are screaming on worldchat b:chuckle
  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    No they don't?
    They have the attribute "Cannot be Sold", meaning to npc's. They could still be traded and that wasn't in the attributes. You should read the items instead of listening what people are screaming on worldchat b:chuckle

    Look at the item for the VIP Crown IN their cats. It clearly states "cannot be traded".
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  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Look at the item for the VIP Crown IN their cats. It clearly states "cannot be traded".

    Another catshop visual bug then, just like TT items weren't showing they bind on equip.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Another catshop visual bug then, just like TT items weren't showing they bind on equip.
    jii7o8.jpg

    It's not a bug, some players have the knowledge to **** the game at their advantage.
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  • Jarkhen - Archosaur
    Jarkhen - Archosaur Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    It's not a bug, some players have the knowledge to **** the game at their advantage.

    Having proctypes show up incorrectly in a catshop most certainly is a bug. And no, it sure as hell isn't "hacking."
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Having proctypes show up incorrectly in a catshop most certainly is a bug. And no, it sure as hell isn't "hacking."

    Oh so players that change an item from untradable to tradable isn't hacking? It's not the first time it have been done, some people even did it on the TW rewards (weapons).
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  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Oh so players that change an item from untradable to tradable isn't hacking? It's not the first time it have been done, some people even did it on the TW rewards (weapons).

    You clearly don't know anything about the specifics of this abuse =/ players aren't changing the item's attributes at all by 'hacking' (my guess is you mean hacking as in changing the game-files on your computer to your benefit, but this isn't that), it's an abuse entirely done with ingame mechanics we can't discuss here to keep the item tradable. The attribute "Cannot be Traded" only appears when the items are on display in a catshop, as my screenshot above shows. "Cannot be Sold" is not the same as "Cannot be Traded", for repeating for clarification.
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited June 2014
    You clearly don't know anything about the specifics of this abuse =/ players aren't changing the item's attributes at al by 'hacking' (my guess is you mean hacking as in changing the game-files on your computer to your benefit, but this isn't that)l, it's an abuse entirely done with ingame mechanics we can't discuss here to keep the item tradable. The attribute "Cannot be Traded" only appears when the items are on display in a catshop, as my screenshot above shows. "Cannot be Sold" is not the same as "Cannot be Traded", for repeating for clarification.

    You and her are referring to different things. :\

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    Is that still happening? I thought that was patched, haven't seen anything like that in a long time personally. Like well over a year. What's going on here is different. If anyone (not just her) knows anything about that, feel free to PM me.

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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    it's an abuse entirely done with ingame mechanics we can't discuss here to keep the item tradable.

    You say yourself it's an abuse done by players, players found a glitch and abuse is is kinda like hacking.
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  • Jarkhen - Archosaur
    Jarkhen - Archosaur Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    You and her are referring to different things. :\

    @Bella

    Is that still happening? I thought that was patched, haven't seen anything like that in a long time personally. Like well over a year. What's going on here is different. If anyone (not just her) knows anything about that, feel free to PM me.

    I know what she's referring to (snip), but to the best of my knowledge there hasn't been anything exploitable in that manner in ages, as you said. Even then, it's still not "hacking," but I digress.

    Bella: the items in question are already tradable. These people are not making them tradable.
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  • Sevchenko - Dreamweaver
    Sevchenko - Dreamweaver Posts: 661 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Well, abusing a glitch is still playing by the rules in some way. If we fall down to this kind of thought we would end up banning lots of people who used cancel channeling and fc 2nd boss glitch, among "fake Lunar G16" and nirvana caster talimans.

    The best thing to do is to patch this thing asap and for good.

    Oh and take advantage of the time, disable "Suggest Guardian Scroll" feature too, ty.
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