Heavy/Robe Foxie Guide 2.0

Table of Contents (sort of! =P )
Terms and warnings
Who is this for?
Changes in game
Why go Heavy/Robe?
How do I build for HA/AA?
Armor/Weapon choices and requirements
What cultivation?
What combos?
Myths and Legends
PvP >;D
A note on pets and genies
Etc. = whatever else I think I need later
Acknowledgments
FAQ&A
Change Log

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Terms used: Ones that some readers may not have a familiarity with are:
KoS = Kill on Sight
Frost = Frostcovered City, 75+ instance, primarily for exp
Nirvana3 or Nirvana Stage 3 = Take Lunar or Nirvana Gear, and use raps/cannies to bring it to stage 2, then farm Warsong to get badges and molds to bring this to stage 3.
r9rr = Rank 9 gear at stage 3.
HA = Heavy Armor
LA = Light armor
AA =Arcane Armor
LA, HA, and AA are interchanged with Light, Heavy, and Robe/Arcane
HH = Holy Halls = TT = Twilight Temple; thus HH70 = gear gotten from Twilight Temple for lvl 70.
SoG = Seal of the God, 15 second silence/freeze cleric skill.
SoR = Soul of Retaliation, a reflecting psychic skill.
SoSt = Soul of Stunning, a stunning (duh) psychic skill.
DoT = Damage over Time
QPQ = Quid Pro Quo, Latin for I-hate-you-so-I-give-you-all-my-debuffs, seeker skill to transfer debuffs onto target
(General stuff that most everybody knows: agro = aggression, or mob willingness to attack you. Pulling = running by lots of mobs so that they all agro you. Tanking = taking the damage and agro instead of the cleric/squadmates. Luring = sending pet out, getting the agro of one mob to come back to you and your waiting ambush. =P Ganked = teamed up against, targeted by many people and getting many attacks/debuffs )

Warnings: Though I have color coded this for easier reading, this is still a wall of text, lol. It also has sections, so use those for easier navigation. ^_^ However, I will also tl;dr on request.
This does include a bit of random commentary on my part. =P
This style is not for everyone. If you prefer your own, awesome! Just no flaming trolls please(flaming trolls will be escorted stage right by the nearest forum Mod, and doused). I love all styles that venomancers come in, and love the unique nature each brings, be that LA, HA, AA, hybrids, whatever lol.

Additional warnings: This is not an end-all-be-all. Though I believe what I say, and you may take it at face value that way, this is not an extensive, mathematically proven, absolutely-no-holes thesis. Rather, it is to give people an idea of what the build can do. Thus, examples are just that: examples. They are meant to give ideas, not be the optimal situation.

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Hello, my fellow veno friends!

Looking for a way to maximize the versatility of one of the most awesome classes in PWI?
Preparing to be the one who can do the job of every class when you might not have said other classes?
Looking forward to watching sins die in bewilderment when they drop from stealth to attack you in NW?

Then this guide is for you!

Who is this style for? As gone into more detail at various points, this style is for anyone below r9 who would like to increase the versatility, defense, and options available for their veno. Though r9 is not excluded completely, at a certain point this build won't help them as much.
In other words, this build is for the unique and adventurous! In my humble opinion, this build offers the most options for veno choices(from pet to armor set) and individuality, but then again, I'm slightly biased. =P

As many of you know, Rei did an awesome guide for HA/AA venos some time ago, listed here. However, there have been tons of changes to the mechanics and methods of PWI since then, and the world has changed a lot for venos.

Some other valuable links for HA/AA venos are this one and that one and this other one.

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To give a couple of things that have changed the balance:

Rebirths. Now it's possible to go back from lvl 100+ to level 1, and gain a bunch of extra stat points along the way! So far, you can only rebirth 2 times, but by moving your historic level up to 105, you can gain a maximum of 72 extra stat points from each 105.

Evolving pets. Certain pets have been made to be able to evolve (hopefully more soon, we venos like our individuality *hint* GMs *hint*!!), increasing their stats, skills, and overall dynamic by various moods. This allows for stronger partners to join alongside you in your merry adventures! This also allows more skills to be used in both PvE and PvP.

New armor and weapons. This changes the dynamic in several ways. Most of this is self-explanatory, but this allows new limits and choices of armor sets for different set bonuses.

New skills and old skill changes. This more has to do with the cultivation choice you choose. I'll go more in-depth into cultivation choices later, but suffice it to say that there has been a skill change dynamic, even with foxform, which may change which cultivation you end up choosing.

Cards and Nuema. This changes the balance, since it can either accentuate strengths or balance out weaknesses in stats, depending on how you work it.


So why go Heavy/Robe? Or why not?

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Cons:

Less magic attack. Fairly simple; the tradeoff of this build is stat points in magic versus stat points in strength and dexterity.

Low mana pool. As you give up magic, you give up mana. This can be difficult with costly skills (like myriad rainbow for 800 mp), or skills like arcane antimony, where the damage is based off of mp pool total.

More complex playstyle. Since this build takes full advantage of both foxform and human form, and involves some complex combos and situation reading, this can be more difficult than simply magic DDing and switching to fox for purge and amp.
As noted by Mauntille, veno is a complex class in general, when played right. But even among veno builds, this one tends to be more difficult, and adding the switching of equipment with skills/situation adds to the natural complexity.

More expensive. Since you should hopefully have at least two full sets of armor, full heavy and full robe, this is a more expensive style. Also, if you invest in tomes or other such stat-giving equipments to make stat allocation easier, this can add to the expense.
If you have equipment to transfer among alts, this can make it slightly easier. Though the expense is technically the same, just placed on another alt, that's all. =P

More difficult stat allocation. At least initially, Before rebirth, your stats will likely be stretched rather thin, even with stat-giving equipments to help. Of course, after rebirth this becomes much easier.


Here I will also mention a caveat, which if I didn't OPKossy would probably drop by and mention it, since he's like that, lol. With r9rr+12, Nation War ornaments and rings, etc., it is possible for venos to hit insanely high physical and magical defense stats, while maintaining an incredible amount of power. This means that many don't even need heavy armor to hit the physical resistance cap or come close. This guide, and method of building venomancers, is not much use for these people, since the tradeoff of magic attack power for physical hit power and physical defense doesn't tend to be worth it in this case. If you are only planning for Nirvana stage 3 or similar armor, this build can be highly advantageous, which I will get into more later.


Now that we have the cons out of the way, let's move on to the pros. ^_^

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Pros:

Incredible versatility. You can do everything! I mean that rather literally, as I have, in HH70 gear(HH80/90 weap), done everything in a Frost run, from tanking to full pulls to healing my pet when it tanks, alongside all the normals of buffing and debuffing and transferring sparks and luring, while still managing to be one of the highest damage dealers, frequently pulling agro from the other squadmates.
But yes, you can tank when you pull agro from your pets or squadmates, and do pulls to shame some barbarians, and don't have to kite like a crazy veno when you pull agro of all the phys mobs, lol. You also can survive the aoes which some squishier squadmates can't.
Note: I mentioned Frost as it is an instance which tends to be split according to class, not because of ease or difficulty of the instance. Second, you may not end up being one of the highest damage dealers/pull agro. I did in that case, even with an equal geared squad, but it is not a given. But you still can deal significant damage.

PvP versatility. You can switch your armor rapidly in any given PvP situation, allowing the ability to shift roles and abilities to confuse many of your foes, giving the advantage of surprise and flexibility in most battles.

Dynamic playstyle. As mentioned before, this build takes full advantage of foxform and human form. To fully utilize both, there is a lot of combos and switching forms involved, which leads to consistent action. This, though challenging, can be rewarding when mastered. ^_^

High magical and physical damage. Remember how I said that you sacrifice magic attack? Well it's true, but this hardly keeps you from being a major damage dealer--I keep up quite well with the damage output of my squad members, and steal agro easily from several, except the good barbarians. My physical damage is nothing to be scoffed at either, as I do more damage than my pets in foxform, and twice as fast.

Skyrocketed defenses. As this is often a pivotal reason that some choose this build, this is important to mention, even though it is fairly self-explanatory.
{I did some tests with a barbarian friend of mine (r9rr armor, nirvanva3+10 weapon, 50k hp standing form with tree of protection), who devoured, used tree of protection, then used perdition on me, while I was wearing HH70 heavy in foxform for a 10k normal, 20k crit. Compare this to a nirvana3 arcane friend he used the same combination on, who took 22k normal damage(44k crit).} Note: this is just an example. I can do more tests later if asked, though.

Bonuses from armor to you and your pet.As heavy gives a higher hp bonus than arcane, this can help your own hp, but as your evolved pets take some stats from you, this can benefit the pet's survivability as well.

Increased solo and team capability. Because of increased survivability and versatility, you can solo more things without fear of death or need of a stronger pet, since you can tank the things you need to. You also can fill in the slack if a squad is lacking, as mentioned above. This can be anything from defending earth pavilion to tanking in HH, etc..

Along with the solo capability, HA/AA venos can farm using autocultivation without needing autopot/charms, since they can heal back their hp with leech spamming (since they have the accuracy necessary and more dmg), and triple spark/consume spirit for mp. Though it should be also noted that Dark Taboo, the primal version, never misses and restores more hp. However, because this is a melee skill, HA/AA venos still hold an advantage that they will take less damage at melee; you can pretty much autocultivate until your weapon breaks with no worries about hp or mp.


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Those are some pros and cons. Having come this far, the question becomes:
How do I do this build?

Stats. Assuming that you have not rebirthed, the the stats are going to be stretched.
But put priorities where they should be, lol. You should always be able to wear a weapon your level. This means an automatic 3 points go into magic every level. However, this means you'll be behind on heavy armor levels, unless you get the other stats from somewhere.

I have a couple suggested ways to go about this.
1) Pretend you're a normal arcane veno until you have 300 magic, then pour everything from there into strength and dexterity every level after that, fitting the stats to the next level of armor you want to wear. This works well with the initial leveling and such, and doesn't nerf or trouble your process much.
2) Put as much magic into your veno to reach the weapon at the next highest 10 level sequence(e.g., at level 50 start putting points into magic until you have enough to hold HH60 weapon), then use the remaining stats in the 10 level sequence to put to str and dex. This is good if you want to experience as much benefit from the armor defenses as you can while leveling.
3) You can stretch and plan your stats according to certain stat giving equipments, and possibly hold armor and weapons equal to your level. This involves a lot of forethought and planning, and while offers the greatest possible benefits, is also quite difficult and may require a restat or two. The method this is not suggested if you aren't good at planning, because it involves making your build off of equipment bonuses, and as equipment changes as you level, this could be problematic if you could no longer wear something when an equipment was switched. Also, this may require more restats if you mess up here.
Note: Planning is all well and good, though, so if you do that well, wonderful! Take this method and run with it(ornie engravings and stat tomes are your friends here). You also have 6 ornaments (2 rings, belt, neck, cape, and helm) to add stats with.

A lot of this fades once you rebirth, since often you will gain enough extra stats in the rebirth to cover the missing stat points.

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Gear Calculation Area:
Credit for this section goes to Mauntille, for having a huge collection offhand, lol.

The first are some possible ways to stat your gear. These are helpful especially since PWcalc doesn't take into account reawakenings and war avatars.

As a caveat, there are some pieces in here which are harder to get, such as the trophy capes (didn't they take out Trophy Mode for bh69 and bh79? Last I checked, they did. =( Which means that they are now much harder to acquire than before, if you go that route) or the Vambraces of Blood Moon. There are few other items which can match the stat boosters of these equipments, but some other equips to keep in mind are 3* equip with the right addons, the] bh89/99 Trophy Mode Capes(pretty sure those are both still up, if not try Lunar), tomes, ornaments like the Seal of Eternal Solitude ring and other like equipment. Make sure you keep a good eye out!


Here are the builds:
Level 70
Level 80
Level 90
Level 100, HA w/ -int bias
Level 101, HA NS3
Level 101, HA NS3 w/ R9RRW

The second is a table with damage calculations for comparison. ^_^

Mauntille - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The full list of veno builds is:

Build Desc.             PW Calc Link                            Phys Dmg    Mag Dmg     APS     crit    -chan   P.Weap Dmg  M.Weap Dmg
70 Veno HA Mage         http://pwcalc.com/3959b38661e76fb2      1334        3821        1.33    3%      -0%     564         932
80 Veno HA Mage         http://pwcalc.com/174dc3e8b6f57115      1796        4646        1.33    7%      -0%     910         1146
90 Veno HA Mage         http://pwcalc.com/d4127d0aec3bd38d      2643        5765        1.05    11%     -3%     961         1358
Int Veno HA Mage        http://pwcalc.com/f0ab2b710c971f16      4205        8637        2.22    14%     -1%     1396        1932
NS3 Veno HA Mage        http://pwcalc.com/e420eea649988277      4728        9450        1.54    12%     -1%     1499        2111
R9RRW Veno HA Mage*     http://pwcalc.com/832f09e50d9e4194      5016        10904       1.18    12%     -4%     1597        2269
70 Veno HA Fox          http://pwcalc.com/c91ea640ecb7145a      2021        3723        1.33    3%      -0%     589         977
80 Veno HA Fox          http://pwcalc.com/5a50d0518b2c4cff      2656        4542        1.33    7%      -0%     740         1121
90 Veno HA Fox          http://pwcalc.com/78015e12dc6a4f69      3790        5657        1.05    11%     -3%     986         1333
Int Veno HA Fox         http://pwcalc.com/0fe9b5b17835a3ac      5869        8524        2.22    14%     -1%     1421        1907
NS3 Veno HA Fox         http://pwcalc.com/0d16c61b7f7c4ce2      6630        9223        1.54    12%     -1%     1549        2061
R9RRW Veno HA Fox*      http://pwcalc.com/246e7e08b5938c6d      7256        10416       1.18    12%     -4%     2170        2169

Build Desc.             PW Calc Link                            Phys Dmg    Mag Dmg     APS     crit    -chan   P.Weap Dmg  M.Weap Dmg
70 Veno AA Mage         http://pwcalc.com/835fd65b9d959e88      856         5715        1.25    1%      -6%     585         1100
80 Veno AA Mage         http://pwcalc.com/199dba7b40a522b8      1281        6622        1.25    7%      -12%    845         1214
90 Veno AA Mage         http://pwcalc.com/c43e475800fe8375      1493        8422        1.25    8%      -18%    934         1381
Chan Veno AA Mage       http://pwcalc.com/a252e4bf1c3c7a7c      1909        13174       1.33    9%      -62%    1196        1926
NS3 Veno AA Mage        http://pwcalc.com/0db311efcb4d9dda      2122        14852       1.33    10%     -19%    1299        2105
R9RRW Veno AA Mage      http://pwcalc.com/b16f52a865cd6038      2289        16431       1.05    10%     -22%    1397        2263
70 Veno AA Fox          http://pwcalc.com/d6c9c90ad747dbd4      1543        5582        1.25    1%      -6%     610         1075
80 Veno AA Fox          http://pwcalc.com/a74a3e1b457081de      2270        6482        1.25    7%      -12%    870         1189
90 Veno AA Fox          http://pwcalc.com/9c583ea819fcaf10      2578        8265        1.25    8%      -18%    959         1356
Chan Veno AA Fox        http://pwcalc.com/d7158487aa81ce00      3297        13000       1.33    9%      -62%    1221        1901
NS3 Veno AA Fox         http://pwcalc.com/dec1ae2cf7fee6ef      3706        14493       1.33    10%     -19%    1349        2055
R9RRW Veno AA Fox       http://pwcalc.com/87b2642b99309402      4135        15693       1.05    10%     -22%    1497        2163

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How do I manage the extra armor? In other words, how would one switch fast enough to actually be advantageous?
What I did was I set one armor set to the f1-f6 hotkeys, and have that tray and the one containing the other armor set active. So when I need to switch, I press v to rotate the sliding bar and slide my finger across the f1-f6 keys(or however many you need), switching complete armor sets in less than a second. Depending on your keyboard, you can try different options, but my suggested is to use hotkey switches.
As a sidenote, I'm really hoping that they will install armor switch macros sometimes soon *hint GMs hint*, which would be incredibly useful, since instead of having to slide across 6 keys, one would only have to press 1, or possibly even click it.

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What weapons should I aim for? Always an important thing to know.
To give you a basic rundown, the 4 possible magic weapons for you are:

Wand--most consistent damage, but also lowest damage. (1.25 attack speed)
Magic Sword--average damage, spike damage, and consistency. (1.25 attack speed)
Glaive--slightly inconsistent damage, but good range and decent spike damage. (1.25 attack speed)
Pataka--least consistent damage, but highest possible spike damage.(1 attack speed)

So what weapons are best for this style?

Though in the end it is always a question of playstyle and preference, the best weapons in my opinion, especially for this build, are the magic sword and pataka. Why?
The magic sword has the highest physical damage (when taking aps into account) of all the magic weapons, and is consistent damage-wise. This is quite powerful when used right.
The pataka has the highest spike damage, and when tossing out magic attacks, sometimes it can be nice to have hits which rival other magic DD classes. It doesn't lack in damage, and if you don't mind slightly less predictability, it can be quite effective.
On a side note, venos with patakas just look pretty darn awesome, lol. So sassy! >.>

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Weapons and Armor choices.
Some of the best armor and weapon alternatives to R9 are stage 3 Nirvana weapons and armor. To give you an idea of their requirements and stats:

Stage 3 pataka:
★Silence of Frost
Level: 100
Strength: 56
Magic: 280
Physical Attack: 844-1032
Magic Attack: 1023-1900
(guaranteed attack level +40)


Stage 3 magic sword:
★Sandy World
Level: 100
Strength: 52
Magic: 285
Physical Attack: 721-1080
Magic Attack: 1316-1608
(guaranteed attack level +40)

To the best of my recollection, Stage 3 Nirvana Heavy has the requirements of 252 strength and 54 dexterity. I might be a bit off, but that's close. Arcane armor you should never have a problem wearing....but for what it's worth, I think the magic requirements are 155, and the strength is 55.

That's endgameish stuff. From ~60 up though, here are some general requirements for stats:
Magic swords:
★Ancient Arbor
Level Req: 60
Strength needed: 34
Magic needed: 180
Physical Attack: 282-422
Magic Attack: 511-624
★Grief's Breath
Level Req: 70
Strength needed: 39
Magic needed: 210
Physical Attack: 322-482
Magic Attack: 584-713
★Yaksa
Level Req: 80
Strength needed: 44
Magic needed: 240
Physical Attack: 370-555
Magic Attack: 673-822
★Innocent Reverie
Level Req: 90
Strength needed: 49
Magic needed: 270
Physical Attack: 411-616
Magic Attack: 748-914
★Broken Dream
Level Req: 99
Strength needed: 54
Magic needed: 297
Physical Attack: 456-684
Magic Attack: 831-1016

Heavy Armor:
Army Commander Set
Level:70
Strength: 177
Dexterity: 39
Tiger Roar Set
Level:80
Strength: 202
Dexterity: 44
Mountcrasher set
Level:90
Strength: 227
Dexterity: 49


So now that we know the whos, whys and the hows of this build, let's keep moving the the what's and what-abouts.

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What cultivation should I choose? The age old question, hehe. Venos have one of the most balanced sage/demon choices, so ours is the fairest when saying it comes down to playstyle. But for the sake of actually being helpful, let me mention some of the benefits of each cultivation, to better guide your choice in being a HA/AA veno. ^_^

Demon:
Demon's get speed benefits from foxform, making this a viable choice for when you are pulling.
Ironwood can proc a 0 phys defense, meaning that it's possible to hit them once with ironwood and then you and your pet can eat them alive with phys attacks. Note on this: if you get the primal version, it no longer goes down to 0 phys def, but instead only drops by 180%. However, it also has a more reliable proc. A frequent combination would be ironwood+arcane antimony, for a very hard hitting skill (as arcane antimony hits phys dmg).
Demon spark has higher physical damage boost(650%)(700% magical boost), leading to an increase in dps in both casting and hitting. This also works great with primal skills in foxform.
Mo Zun's taunt + chi burn + crush vigor can drop someone's sparks so fast they won't know what happened, lol. Add a genie chi burn in here, and there won't be enough chi left to light a match, much less drop a blade tempest or similar costing skill.
Demon Nova gives a mini-Heaven's-Flame(same chance as seal/freeze chance), making it possible to drop mobs faster on large pulls.
Demon Venemous drops wood defense, making your magical hits often just as hard as other magic DDs.
Demon Summer Sprint is an antistun, making this a quite useful skill in general (the only other antistun we have is Natural Synergy).
Demons also gain increased crit chances from their masteries, adding to the increased crit chance you get from the increased dex.

For these and other reasons, you might want to consider demon. In general, demon is has better spike hits and status effects, and can lead to a nice balance with HA/AA due to hitting hard magically and physically, while still being an excellent puller and tank.

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Sage:
In the newest foxform, gotten at level 100, sages gain 35 chi per transform, making this a great chi-build option. Sage foxform also has increased accuracy and physical defense over demon, making your HA that much more effective.
Sage Venemous has a 20% chance of getting 40 chi per usage(30 additional chi from the normal 10; it does work this way, yes =P ), instead of just 10.
Master Li's tech allows 50 chi every 60 seconds.
Sage spark gives 900% magic damage(500% physical boost), allowing you to out-DD many magic classes in raw power hits; combined with the ability to get 3 sparks in a fairly short duration of time, this can be used to consistently pour out high damage.
Sage Lucky scarab lasts 4 seconds, creating a chance for an easier stunlock, though one might stun primarily with pets as well.
Sage purge has a 5 meter radius, allowing some good usage in group pvp.
Sage amp gives 30% boost instead of just 20%; though demon is 25% as should be noted.
Sage summer sprint clears all purify-able debuffs, which is great when gank-tanking.

For these reasons and others, you might want to consider sage. In general, sage has more higher damage, defense and chi-building, making this a good option for the many combos one uses as a HA/AA veno.

Extra notes: with the advent of war avatar cards, nuema, etc., some of the differences between the two cultivations, as well as some other changes in balance of the HA/AA style can be balanced out with certain cards or such, meaning that choosing one cultivation or another will not completely nerf the ability to do something. For example, you can get the extra physical defense and accuracy from cards that sage foxform has, or get extra crit chance from cards or primal world instead of needing demon masteries.

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Updated Demon/ Sage Cultivation Guide
In the updated section here, I will go through each individual skill, covering the sage and demon side, and how that applies to the dynamic for HA/AA venos. ^_^ At the end, I'll add some additional/concluding notes. Skill descriptions are from ecatomb.

Venemous Scarab:Throw a virulent parasite at the enemy,
dealing base magic damage plus 100% of
weapon damage plus 2534 as Wood damage.

Demon version weakens the target for 6 seconds, reducing Wood Resistance by 30%. This added amp to your damage can be helpful to the HA/AA veno, since you are trading some magic attack for additional defense. This amp helps your damage stay on par with others.
Sage version has a 20% chance to generate an additional 30 Chi. The extra 30 chi can be quite nice when combo building, allowing you to spark more frequently when combined with other chi build options for a high sustained damage output.

Ironwood Scarab:Throw a hardwood beetle at the enemy, dealing base magic
damage plus 300% of weapon damage plus 2770.0 as Wood damage.
Weakens the target for 10 seconds, reducing Physical Defense by 40%.
Costs 25 Chi.

Demon version only has a 20% chance to weaken
the target, but reduces Physical Defense to 0. Though only a 20% chance, knocking someone's physical defense to 0 opens up the opportunity for many deadly combos. As an HA/AA veno, you can switch to foxform when this procs and drop some hard-hitting skills or even aps them for some hefty damage. Also, landing an arcane antimony here is amazingly powerful.
Sage version reduces Physical Defense for 20 seconds. The extended time allows for more combos and physical attacks to be dropped in the duration of this skill, meaning you can spend more time in one human or foxform.

Blazing Scarab: Throw a flaming parasite at the enemy,
dealing base magic damage as Wood damage.
Sets the enemy on fire for 9 seconds, dealing
100% of weapon damage plus 6427.0 as Fire damage.

Demon version reduces the burn duration by 3 seconds. Not much here, but it does increase the damage of each burn.
Sage version increases Fire damage by 20%. Adds some minimal extra damage.
Neither demon nor sage blazing scarab has much to do with veno build, or any specific advantages. Though demon technically does more damage overall, and sage can stack better.

Redstone Venomworm: Primal skill combining Ironwood Scarab and Blazing Scarab: Fling a venemous sandworm at the target, doing base magic damage plus 300% of weapon damage plus 3578 as wood damage. The worm burrows into the target for 10 seconds, lowering its physical defense by 40% and dealing 600% of weapon damage plus 6427 as fire damage.
Costs 25 chi.

Demon version has a 25% chance to reduce physical defense by 180%. For demon, this is a toss-up. While the proc of decreased phys resist is much more reliable, even the 180% reduction doesn't beat the 0 phys defense. Also, you can't get the chi from blazing scarab. However, this may be useful for a more reliable phys reduction for you and your pet to damage in.
Sage version increases duration to 20 seconds, and increase physical defense reduction to 50%. More beneficial for sage, this debuff keeps the 20 seconds of the previous skill and improves the physical resist decrease. Same notes from sage ironwood apply. Useful for increased duration of foxform hits with high damage.

Frost Scarab: Throw an icy bug at the enemy, dealing base magic
damage plus 100% of weapon damage plus 5135.0 as Wood
damage. Has a 80% chance to cause frostbite for 9
seconds, dealing 300% weapon damage plus 5135.0 as
Water damage and reducing the enemy's speed by 70%.
Costs 1 Spark.

Demon version also freezes targets for 3 seconds,
and Frostbite decreases speed by 70%. The increased speed debuff of demon and freeze make catching up to people much easier. This applies well to archers, where the better range is within 5 meters. Using this to close the gap, then keeping them in place with stunning blow while you deal out forxform skills and so forth aid the HA/AA veno when close range is a necessity.
Sage version has a 95% chance to cause frostbite,
and Frostbite decreases speed by 70% This does more damage, and makes a more reliable slow. Once again, useful for chasing people.
An additional usage of this skill is slowing/delaying the charge of close range mobs when tanking phys mobs, though a useful usage opportunity is rare due to lack of aoe and spark cost.

Noxious Gas: Fling a large toxic parasite, creating a noxious cloud
that attacks all enemies within 9 meters of your target.
Deals base magic damage plus 200% of weapon damage plus
2296 as Wood damage. Over the next 9 seconds, targets will
take an additional 100% of weapon damage plus 9.0 Wood damage.

Demon version reduces the cooldown by 1 second. The increase spammability is great for a HA/AA veno, since when you pull, whether solo or in groups, you often don't have many aoes to use, thus having a more spammable aoe to use is a blessing.
Sage version increases both initial over time damage to 3054. Slight increased damage for both helps you keep agro on pulls slightly better.

Lucky Scarab: Throw a toxic scarab at the enemy, dealing base magic
damage plus 100% of weapon damage plus 4320 as Wood
damage. Has a 95% chance to stun the target for 3 seconds.

Demon version reduces the cooldown by 2 seconds. A more frequent stun? Yes please. When switching from foxform to human form and back again, as an HA/AA veno is wont to do, there are occasionally gaps in the stuns on people; the shortened cooldown makes those gaps easier to cover sometimes.
Sage version increases stun duration by 1 second. From a 3 to a 4 second stun, this works great in conjunction with parasitic nova. 4 sec(12 sec cd) - > 8 sec -> 4 sec stun is a simple loop for a stunlock. The extra second can be nice for armor switching or form switching.

Parasitic Nova: Summons a swarm of toxic parasite to attack enemies
within 12 meters of the target. Deals base magic
damage plus 300% of weapon damage plus 8606 as Wood
damage. Has a 95% chance to drive them mad for 8
seconds, preventing them from moving or attacking.
Costs 2 Sparks.

Demon version increase the damage taken by enemies by 30% while driven mad. This is great during pulls for the HA/AA veno, giving extra aoe damage making for faster mob cleanup.
Sage version has a 50% chance to cost only 1 Spark. Great for the sake of combos, the chance to only cost 1 spark allows for more chi gain to be used for sparking, combos, or survival skills as may/will be needed as a tank/puller.

Wood Mastery:
Increases all Wood damage by 20%.

Demon version also increases Critical Rate by 2%. Because of the requirements for holding heavy armor, your dexterity will already be increased--so this is like a crit bonus on top of a crit bonus. Helps with more spike hits.
Sage version increases Wood damage by 25%. Greater overall sustained damage, sage allows you to hit hard both magically and physically.

Bramble Guard: Conjure a shield of brambles to protect an
ally, dealing 60% of incoming damage
plus 25% of weapon damage to attacking
enemies. Lasts 20 minutes. Damage is not
reflected back against attacking players[in open world pk].

Demon version reflects 75% of incoming damage. For more giggle-fits for HA/AA venos (who already laugh at sins in NW/TW apsing them because the damage reflected is greater than damage received) the increased damage reflected nicely compliments the heavy/robe style.
Sage version lasts 20 minutes. Though the skill is unchanged, the increased duration means you don't have to worry about it as much in tanking situations, like holding a cata in TW.

Metabolic Boost: Enhance your metabolism, recovering 50% of your maximum Health.

Demon version reduces the cooldown by 90 seconds.
Sage version increases the heal to 60%.

Nature's Grace: Draw on the power of nature, recovering 50% of your maximum Mana.

Demon version reduces the cooldown by 90 seconds.
Sage version increases Mana recovery to 60%.

To be honest, in the above two skills, the demon has the advantage of more frequent use. Though from 3.5 minutes to 5 minutes, it's still infrequent. Overall, both compliment the tanking/pulling aspect of heavy/robe venos, meaning if it takes you a fair bit to kill a pull, or if your healer is busy while you tank the boss, having a hp increase in the middle is quite nice. You can also use soul transfuse if only one of your hp/mp is low, while the other is at 100%.

Lending Hand: Link your spirit with that of an ally, transferring a Spark to your target.
Costs 1 Spark.

Demon version has a 20% chance to transfer 2 Sparks.
Sage version has a 25% chance to consume no Sparks.
Sage has a more reliable proc. Demon is better for team play, sage is better for oneself. Either way, it can be used on oneself for a chance at an extra spark.

Summer Sprint: Draw upon the spirit of summer, increasing
your speed by 45% for 10 minutes.
Usable in Fox Form.

Demon version grants you immunity to movement-impairing effects for 6 seconds. This is great as a heavy/robe for pulling mobs that stun/freeze. Also useful overall in pvp.
Sage version also removes all negative status effects. This is great for gank-tanking; when you are the cata-puller and have a lot of debuffs on simultaneously, you can use this to purify quickly. As should be obvious, you can't use it while stunned or sealed. However, you can use it while paralyzed, so when you are frozen in the middle of pulling or in pvp, you can use this to purify.

Imbued Foxform: Transform into your fox form, increasing Physical Defense by
120% and Accuracy by 120%.
Allows Fox Form skills to be used.
Shares a cooldown with Fox Form.

Demon version shields you for 6 seconds, increasing your
speed by 60% and reducing attackers' Critical Rate by 5%. The speed from this foxform helps quite nicely with pulling, though it requires switching in and out. This is where the added defense of HA/AA is nice, you don't suffer much more damage even though you switched back to human form.
Sage version generates 35 Chi. Physical defense is increased to 150%, and accuracy is increased by 250%. This is great for combo building in pvp and pve. Especially in the role of tank, this gives you additional chi to survive with. Also, the additional defense and accuracy gotten from the sage version is helpful when apsing and using foxform skills(at least until you get the primal versions). At lower armor levels, the additional defense can sometimes increase your defense to the levels of higher armor sets.


Purge: Dispel an enemy's protective magic, removing all positive status effects.

Demon version reduces the cooldown by 5 seconds. Spammable purge...muahaha! People tend to run when we approach in foxform anyway--overall, this doesn't affect playstyle much though. Except adding a bit more evil laughter.
Sage version also dispels enemies within 5 meters of the target. This is useful in group pvp, and as an HA/AA veno you will be in the middle of things more often than other kinds of venos, having an aoe on the purge can be quite useful.

Amplify Damage: Curse a target with vulnerability, increasing the damage it takes by 25% for 20 seconds.
If the enemy is already cursed, the previous curse will be removed.

Demon version lasts 26 seconds. Longer time to hit people. Doesn't affect playstyle much.
Sage version increases damage taken by 30%. More damage on hits. Doesn't affect playstyle much, but can help increase the damage to keep up better with other characters.

Soul Degeneration: Curse the target's soul with stagnation, preventing Health and Mana regeneration for 30 seconds.
If the enemy is already cursed, the previous curse will be removed.

Demon version also halves the target's Evasion for 20 seconds. This is great for smacking people in foxform as a heavy/robe foxie. Especially if you are smacking an archer or assassin. Also useful for allies trying to land skills.
Sage version reduces also maximum Health by 20%. Dropping max hp can be nice for bosses or tanky enemies. Overall doesn't affect playstyle too much though.

Crush Vigor: Curse the target with forgetfulness for 15 seconds, causing it to lose 12 Chi whenever it attacks.
If the enemy is already cursed, the previous curse will be removed.

Demon version has a 50% chance to generate 1 Spark. "Curses target with forgetfulness"--lol! Like forgetting chi? Explain that one, PWI...
Anyways, demon is nice for that extra spark chance. More combos! Just what we needed. Chi has many uses.
Sage version increases Chi loss to 15 per. This works well, especially if both you and your pet are wailing on someone with rapid attacks. Their chi won't know what hit them.....or maybe it'll forget. lol.

Fox Wallop: Deliver a powerful melee attack, dealing base
physical damage plus 3059. Dazes the enemy for
3 seconds, reducing channeling speed by 35%.
Costs 20 Chi.

Demon version has a 20% chance to make all your hits critical for 5 seconds. Crit time! Just a proc chance, but still lovely if you can pull it off. As an HA/AA veno, this is great for when you are rapidly hitting someone, or want to pull off a nice spike crit. This can also be used to force a crit on a high-powered skill or spark for devastating results.
Sage version has a 50% chance to consume no Chi. Keeping chi is always lovely--doesn't have too much to do with playstyle though.

Befuddling Mist: Spray a bewitching fog, dealing base physical
damage plus 2281. Confuses the target for
8 seconds, reducing Accuracy by 2281.0%.

Demon version also slows the enemy for 3 seconds, decreasing speed by 30%. Well, the decreased speed can always help with kiters! Since this is actually a frontal aoe, this is nice for pulls, especially long ones, to keep agro while slowing enemies.
Sage version deals an extra 800 damage. Eh, meh, extra damage. Can't hurt, I guess.

Grudge Strike: Primal skill combining Fox Wallop and Befuddling Mist: Attack all enemies in front of you with a flurry of blows, dealing base physical damage plus 5055. Lowers the target's accuracy by 70% and increases their channeling time by 35%. Also decreases attack rate by 125% for player targets. Lasts for 8 seconds. Never misses.

Demon version generates 20 chi. Yay, one of the few chi-gains for demon venos! Nice for spamming something while in foxform.
Sage version increases channeling time by 50%. Good for when fighting casters in foxform.

Stunning blow: Strike the enemy with a stunning blow,
dealing base physical damage plus 3641
and freezing the target for 8 seconds.
Costs 1 Spark.

Demon version has a 50% chance to stun the enemy for 3 seconds. Stuns are always good! Covers the gaps in the many form switches that we do as heavy/robe venos, anyway.
Sage version has a 25% chance to consume no Sparks. Always wanted to keep a spark! Combined with the many other opportunities sages have to keep and gain chi, they all add up rather nicely to keep a high chi amount to use combos or spark often with.

Primal Stunning Blow: Strike the enemy with a stunning blow,
dealing base physical damage plus 5537 and freezing the target for 8 seconds. Never misses.
Costs 1 Spark.

Sage version has a 25% to consume no sparks. See above. Never missing is kinda nice, though this more fits venos who tend to miss more, rather than us HA/AA people.
Demon Version has a 50% chance to stun the target for 3 seconds. See above.

Leech: Bite the enemy with a leeching attack,
dealing base physical damage plus 3505.0.
Has an 80% chance to steal 600 Health.

Demon version steals 800 Health. Well hey, this makes autoculti pretty easy. Just foxform and spam leech/consume spirit(or spark), and no worrying about that hp or mp.
Sage version has a 100% chance to steal Health. Just making it more reliable--great! Also lovely for autoculti and such.

Consume Spirit: Devour a portion of your own soul, consuming 10% of
your current Health and dealing base physical damage
to the target. After 3 seconds, you will gain 500 Mana.

Demon version reduces the cooldown by 3 seconds. More spammable, so more mana--nice as something else to do in foxform.
Sage version never misses. This is kinda nice, but the primal skill never misses either.

Dark Taboo: Primal Skill combining Leech and Consume Spirit: Blast the target with dark energy, siphoning their life force into yourself. Deals base damage plus 6319. Restores from 800 to 2000 health, based on your soulforce. Never misses.

Demon version generates 20 chi. Yay, more chi gain! Guess they decided demon venos needed more of that. How nice.
Sage version reduces the cooldown by 1 second. Guess they decided sages needed more spammability. lol.
Neither of these do too much with playstyle, though the sage one could be pretty nice for the sake of hitting things in foxform, and autoculti.

Malefic Crush: Deliver a crushing blow to all enemies within 8
meters. Deals base physical damage plus 7556, and
burns their souls for 9 seconds, consuming 1800 Mana.
Costs 2 Sparks.

Demon version burns 2400 Mana.
Extra mana burn--good for those that have some extra mana, like light armor people. Also great for gank situations.
Sage version burns the target for 3 seconds, consuming 1800 Mana. As an HA/AA veno, this actually benefits one of the barb killing combos nicely, since you have the accuracy and such to pull it off reliably. The shortened duration means it burns a lot faster and is effective as such. Also good when being ganked by a large group to drop a lot of people's mana fast.

Primal Malefic Crush: Deliver a crushing blow to all enemies within 10 meters. Deals base physical damage plus 9303, and burns their souls for 9 seconds, consuming 1800 mana. Has a chance to paralyze targets for 2 seconds (new status, ignores antistun); this chance is between 50% and 90% depending on your soulforce. Never misses. You are immune to damage while casting this skill.

Demon version burns 2400 mana. There is already a discussion about this, so go see that thread for considering whether you want to keep your normal malefic crush or move to primal. Overall, though, the biggest advantage is the aoe paralyze, which is great for mass interrupts while running into a large group of enemies, as well as good for pulls. Specifically to demon, they maintain the mana burn increase.
Sage version increases the stun chance by 10%. The sage has a higher chance of effectiveness, though, so if you go primal with this, this will be more effective for your stunning purposes.

Melee Mastery: Increases all weapon damage by 150% in Fox Form.

Demon version also increases Critical Rate by 3%. Woot! More crit and more death for apsing, foxforming, and so forth! Good to have overall.
Sage version increases damage by 200%. More damage! This makes your already high phys attack even higher, making you hit painfully hard.

Feral Concentration: Focus all of your concentration on
defense, rendering you immune to all
incoming damage but preventing you
from moving. Lasts 10 seconds.
Usable in Fox form.
Costs 1 Spark.

A 79 skill, all around usefulness--a 10 sec IG! Though you need to use antistun before activating this to be able to do anything, this is a great skill all around for when tanking is necessary. Though not particularly for HA/AA, we do end up tanking more than most other venos, whether that be cata-pulling or what-have-you, so good to keep in mind. Demon Summer Sprint can help here, so you don't have to fortify.

Myriad Rainbow: Launch a wide variety of poisonous
scarabs at the enemy, randomly
inflicting the target with one
or more of the following effects:
Bleeding for 4500 Physical damage.
Poisoned for 4500 Wood damage.
Physical Defense reduced by 100%.
Magic Defense reduced by 100%.
Lasts 9 seconds.
Costs 20 Chi

Another 79 skill with a variety of uses. As an HA/AA veno, you can utilize the armor break more than another might. No status effects are guaranteed, though. Foxform Rainbow is AOE around you, and Human form Rainbow is a 25 meter 1-target spell. Always great for solo and team play, though, since those debuffs are quite powerful! You can use them to amp your magic or physical attack, or simply add a DoT to your foe. It does cost 20 chi, but sages have an advantage of lots of spare chi in this case.

Fossilized Curse: Assault your enemy with the essence of death itself.
Deals base magic damage plus 100% of weapon damage
plus 150% of your maximum Health as Wood damage.
Removes all positive status effects from the
target, and reduces Attack Rate by 100% and
Accuracy by 300% for 15 seconds. Never misses.
Costs 1 Spark.

As a foxform skill, this utilizes your HA quite well. Your increased health from armor refines, and dealing magic damage, this cripples attacking melees quite well.

Arcane Antimony: Tap into both natural and arcane magics, creating a
powerful blast from their antipodal energy. Deals base
magic damage plus 100% of weapon damage plus 150% of
your maximum Mana. Dazes the target, reducing speed
by 70% and channeling speed by 90% for 15 seconds.
Costs 1 Spark.

Along with the forementioned combo with demon ironwood, this is a great skill overall to even the playing field with attacking magic classes. Hit them hard with this, and you'll have an opening of slow casting and kiting to charge in and wreak havoc.

Morai Skills:
So with the addition of the Morai update some time ago, we have 5 more skills to add to this list! However, none of them particularly affect playstyle, since they are the same for sage/demon. They are great skills (mostly PvP oriented, so great for that!), so I'll mention them briefly.

Natural Synergy: This makes your pet more powerful, as well as making you and your pet anti-stunned for 10 seconds. Often used for it's antistun, it should be noted that it costs a spark and requires your pet to be out, so use with care! Still a useful skill though, especially for sages, who have no other antistun.

Blazing Barrier: The mini-hood which actually works in open world PvP! Aside from being really nice for only costing 30 chi, it can also be stacked with Hood, adding even more reflect and dmg reduction in TW/NW.

Chi burn: self explanatory--great for taking a spark and a half from anyone.

Bewitch: a great skill to seal (a seal you can't undo with lawbreaker) someone for 6 seconds, as well as knock barbs our of True Form and clerics out of Violet Dance, etc..

Soul link: A skill which is hard to find a usage for, but can be quite impressive if used right. This summons a voodoo doll next to the target to hit for additional damage. This skill bypasses all forms of damage reduction, including Invoke, IG, AD, and other such. You can use AOEs on the doll to basically double your damage (if they are close enough to the doll you summon). I have not yet been able to test it on people who stealth yet, though. It does cost 2 sparks and has a long cast time, though, so just keep that in mind.


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You keep talking about combos as an HA/AA veno. What do you mean?
Good question! Instead of giving you a dozen scenarios, which would take for-ev-er and have many sleeping foxies at the end, let me just cover this in brief by saying:
As a HA/AA veno, you will be switching armor often to match the situation. This may also affect whether you go foxform for the increased phys def, or terrorizing robe or light armor wearers, or debuffs or what-have-you. You may also need to build chi quickly to pull off large combos for surviving (since you may be a tank, cata puller, or just have the normal KoS that all venos have, lol) or offense. This involves Bramble Hood -> Feral -> Blazing barrier -> Bramble hood (like 6 sparks, lol), or stunlocks that involve actually using Nova twice in succession (check the PvP thread to figure out what I'm talking about, think someone mentioned a stunlock there). You may also need to combine several debuffs at once, from befuddling mist+fox wallop+amp+purge+bewitch+stunning blow and suddenly switching to standing for lucky+nova+frost scarab while tossing out a genie skill, and your cultivation may have an effect on which combos you chose.

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Myths and Legends
Special thanks to Rei for this section:

Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Myth busting time.
Myth: Heavy armour venos grind slow.
Lol no. Grinding is the same rate compared to arcane or light armour builds. Actually with my herc, aoe grinding is very fast.

Myth: Heavy armour venos have low HP.
Yes, however you're not going to switch to this build if you're going to be cheap. It's certainly possible to get 6k+ HP at 90s but this relies heavily on armour refines and HP shards. Heavy armour gives higher HP bonuses in refines than light and arcane armour does, since heavy armour venos cannot spare points for vit we rely heavily on this for HP.

Myth: Heavy armour venos have lower magic resistance than light+arcane builds..
Actually, light armour does. We're able to switch between arcane+heavy for the higher magic and physical resistances.

Myth: Fox form uses magic attacks.
No, fox form is strictly physical attacks, the skills are based on your own physical attack but in fox form you are still required to use a magic weapon.

Myth: Heavy venos are strictly fox form.
No, this build needs a high amount of magic to use the magic weapon in fox form, and str+dex to wear heavy armour. It's the venos choice but it can be used as both a caster and melee fox.

Myth: Heavy armour venos have less attack than arcane venos. Yes, but only by a little. We have enough magic required for our weapons but it does not completly gimp us to the point where we grind slower/ cannot farm Twilight temple. Our magic attack is the same compared to light armour venos. In fact, it has even greater advtantages since I am able to solo heal my herc through soulbanisher who has a nasty phys aoe. No arcane or light veno in fox form could survive it.

Also notable myths are:
Myth:Heavy/Robe venos are limited to heavy armor only.Hopefully I have dispelled this so far, but on the contrary, HA/AA venos is named so because we use both on a regular basis.
Myth:HA/AA venos miss out on set bonuses because they use both HA and AA.Hardly the case; we carry two or more full sets, and can use both fully. And even when we use a combination of both, we can get at least some armor bonuses(e.g. hp and def levels) while having higher resistances than a full LA set of same value.

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PvP!! *Cue blood red text* What, still not working? *PKs a nearby spawnkiller and comes back, blood dripping from tail*
*Cue blood red text*
Better. >;D
Anyways, PvP!
I'll narrow this section down to 1v1s and team PvP(including some TW).
First of all, as an HA/AA veno, what is your role in team PK? Often times, you have the exact same role as normal, involving purge/amp/debuffs along with spark transfer and DD as needed. Venos excel in support, and this would not take away from this role in any way. But now we add to it a couple possible roles. You can be chosen as a tank--either cata-puller, flag carrier, or similar role. You can also be chosen as a powerful distracting force, charging into the midst of enemies, wreaking havoc, and running back out(and surviving!). You can also be a headhunter, chosen to take out one priority target at a time.
Since the normal veno role is well established, I'll not cover it unless needed.

As a tank, your job would be to take a beating. But as such, you will be getting ganked a lot. Often, an excellent choice would be using heavy armor, and letting your magical ornaments and rings cover for your magical defense. If slightly lacking in magical defense, you can always trade the chest or leg piece for an arcane one, so that you keep the defense level set bonus, but gain some extra magical defense. Another option is to wear legs, boots and wrist as arcane, rest as heavy, and switch to foxform for increased tanking. This will also increase your hp with the Nirvana3 set bonus. Prepare to build as much chi as you can while tanking, so that you can frequently use damage reducing skills like Bramble Hood or Feral Concentration.

When chosen to be a charging distracting force, running in in foxform is suggested; use myriad rainbow while using befuddling mist on melee, fox wallop on arcane, amp and purge on tanks or high priorities, and so forth. Note: if you have the primal fox skills which combine the foxform skills, just use them as often as you can on needed targets. Also, Primal Malefic Crush has the new paralyze skill, making it great from random group-knock-overs. As you run in, a good idea is to have some dmg reduction up, so you can run back out with limbs and tail intact, lol.

As a headhunter, you want to first take away all buffs on one target, and preparing them for the kill. Genies and pets can help keep someone locked while you apply necessary debuffs. Remember that Bewitch takes clerics out of Violet Dance mode, barbs out of True Form, etc. Then stunlock, and fire away with all weapons! To take out a target as fast as possible, you may need to bait out genie first, then stunlock and apply force.

1v1s are a different beastie altogether, lol.
I'll give a general overview of each class and strategies, but more in depth questions I can answer as they come.

Blademaster
Come in many shapes and sizes, but the consistent things here are marrows, stuns, and defense debuffs. If they magic marrow, which is most likely, remember that their physical defense is weakened, opening them up for ironwood and bleed and other physical hits. Stuns depend on the BM. Some suck at stuns, while others lock so hard you need to level your lockpicking skill. Assuming they are pro stunlockers, remember that they operate on a rotating 15 second chain. Count 6 seconds from their roar and have a pet stun them or time a fortify, and break their chain that way. Prediction is key. Watch for their signature skill, heaven's flame(axe)/glacial spike(for pike BM), which tells you intent to kill combo. Sage venos can purify HF with sprint, demons can immune/kite/etc. You have an advantage in these fights--you can wear heavy armor, and all their attacks are physical.

Wizard
These excel in charm bypasses, and massive hits. Most are arcane, so pets and physical hits hurt them a lot. Wear full arcane though. One of their favorite kill combos is genie spark+undine strike + blade tempest. You can purify spark/undine strike as a sage, other options are to use genie to avoid fire damage. Remember that this skill also hits physical, though, so be careful. After dropping this combo, though, they are highly vulnerable. Feel free to charge them in foxform and freeze them in place, but mind you they can kite fairly well. Work in tandem with your pet to keep them pinned so you can apply debuffs and go for the kill.

Archer
Key here is range. You cannot outrange them, so don't try; you'll get hurt. lol. Remember that they will almost always start off physical, but if they learn you have better phys resist, they will try metal attacks, of which they have a few. Suggestion is to wear chest and legs heavy, and the rest arcane. Charge them in foxform, remembering that they hit at half damage at <5 meters. Keep them from kiting as much as possible, but remember they have many anti-stuns. Seal is your friend when they antistun, keep close as you can while tossing out hard hits. Watch the random purge, and keep some defense in reserve.

Cleric
These are annoying to fight. Besides SoG, they also have a sleep and freeze for a really long duration. Keys here are prediction and chi-draining. Most will open with a SoG, which except for silence-immunity, will make you unable to do anything. They will often try to kill your pet while you are frozen, then start stacking debuffs on you. Some clerics will toss out a sleep almost immediately, while others wait until the end of 15 seconds. If they wait, try to time an antistun or purify for the end of the SoG. If not, you can try to use genie or other such to get out of sleep, even resort to having something nearby attack you if needed. Once you are out of the initial lock, immediately stun, and keep them locked for as long as you can. Drain as much chi as possible; if they do not have a purify weapon, use crush vigor and chi burn and aps them with your pet briefly. Remember, they need 1 spark for SoG. Purge and amp and keep them locked as much as you can. Suggestion is to wear chest heavy for their spammable plume shot, but rest arcane. If they have too many debuffs on you, purify what you can.

Veno
Depends on what kind, lol! Adapt to fight whoever, remembering that many things are predictable, and they know it too. You can sometimes bait genie action by pretending to purge then cancelling. Remember the debuffs thrown at you, and predict counters.

Barbarian: High hp pool, high attack, annoying. Key here is endurance and timing. Most barbs have such high hp that you can't kill them outright, and if you come close they turtle-shell up. A couple tips and tricks: wear all heavy. They only have phys attacks; this will hamper their efforts a lot. If they invoke, you