Morai gear or tt 90 ?

djrank · May 2014

So hey guys , ive been building a cleric atm hes lvl 95 , my question is should i sell my tt90 gears and get the morai ones ? is it worth it ?
Much appreciated

WannaBM - Archosaur · May 2014

Morai gears are better than TT90. However, it is a dead end and it is untradable.

I advise morai gears only to the very casual player. One who plays for example only on a sunday night, doesnt know many people in game, took a year to reach level 100, mostly enjoying his surroundings, not like most of us addicted to becoming more powerfull. For that kind of player even G16 is expensive and morai is the answer.

Most averagely active players go for G16 nirvana gear. This can be upgraded all the way from TT70-TT80-TT90-TT99-G13-G15-G16. If you are like most players, just keep following that path.

The ones who are more ambitious will end up with R9. If you think you might get there, dont follow the TT path but instead go for the slightly more expensive lunar version. That is tradable so that you can sell it again by the time you upgrade to R9.

djrank · May 2014

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

Morai gears are better than TT90. However, it is a dead end and it is untradable.

I advise morai gears only to the very casual player. One who plays for example only on a sunday night, doesnt know many people in game, took a year to reach level 100, mostly enjoying his surroundings, not like most of us addicted to becoming more powerfull. For that kind of player even G16 is expensive and morai is the answer.

Most averagely active players go for G16 nirvana gear. This can be upgraded all the way from TT70-TT80-TT90-TT99-G13-G15-G16. If you are like most players, just keep following that path.

The ones who are more ambitious will end up with R9. If you think you might get there, dont follow the TT path but instead go for the slightly more expensive lunar version. That is tradable so that you can sell it again by the time you upgrade to R9.

im planning on getting g16 should i stay with my tt90 ?

Zoldi - Morai · May 2014

Did you refine your TT gears ?
I would say to use morai gears (refined +2-3 max) to farm your G16

djrank · May 2014

Zoldi - Morai wrote: »

Did you refine your TT gears ?
I would say to use morai gears (refined +2-3 max) to farm your G16

my tt gears are +3 (all of them )
so should i sell them and get morai ?

WannaBM - Archosaur · May 2014

Well yes certainly for now.

As said, they can be upgraded all the way to G16. You can do this yourself if you have the crafting skills. You will still need to spend coins to buy the TT99 gold materials though. Farming them yourself is rather unrealistic. The rest of the materials can be farmed though.

If you dont care much about farming anything yourself and you prefer to just get money from lvl 100 BH rewards, Cube, merching, auto culti etc and buy the stuff you want. Then you can just buy completed parts when you have the coin for it and sell the TT90 parts at that point. Of course you can choose any kind of middle path and for example choose to buy G15 parts and turn them into G16 yourself. (you dont need craft skills for the G15-G16 upgrade unlike all the upgrades between TT70 and G15)

I would advise from now to put all your effort into getting G15 gear. This is right now much more important than for example buying demon/sage skills, mounts, flyers etc. Once you have G15, you can do warsong. In warsong you farm the stuff needed to make your gear G16 and it is also an instance that allows any toon G15 and up to make a create a decent amount of value. If after you made your own gears, you use the warsong resources to sell gear for others (or crafting service) you should be making about 2m per hour there.

djrank · May 2014

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

Well yes certainly for now.

As said, they can be upgraded all the way to G16. You can do this yourself if you have the crafting skills. You will still need to spend coins to buy the TT99 gold materials though. Farming them yourself is rather unrealistic. The rest of the materials can be farmed though.

If you dont care much about farming anything yourself and you prefer to just get money from lvl 100 BH rewards, Cube, merching, auto culti etc and buy the stuff you want. Then you can just buy completed parts when you have the coin for it and sell the TT90 parts at that point. Of course you can choose any kind of middle path and for example choose to buy G15 parts and turn them into G16 yourself. (you dont need craft skills for the G15-G16 upgrade unlike all the upgrades between TT70 and G15)

I would advise from now to put all your effort into getting G15 gear. This is right now much more important than for example buying demon/sage skills, mounts, flyers etc. Once you have G15, you can do warsong. In warsong you farm the stuff needed to make your gear G16 and it is also an instance that allows any toon G15 and up to make a create a decent amount of value. If after you made your own gears, you use the warsong resources to sell gear for others (or crafting service) you should be making about 2m per hour there.

so how much money approx do i need to get from tt90 - g15 ?

WannaBM - Archosaur · May 2014

Im hesitant to say that because when your first toon is lvl 90, it will look humongous. However once you are 100+, your income will get better. google for posts about making money....

G16 lunar parts are 50m a piece on my server. TT versions a bit less but i dont know how much really.

Using morai to farm your G16 is also an option. In fact morai is pretty good. I have a cleric with morai gears and G16 LA helm/cape and weapon as well as some vit statted and Immac garnet shards. Its got a little over 9k HP buffed 10-13k magic attack. The Warding levels, attack levels.
I made it only to be support toon for farming TT, but it can do anything and better so than many other clerics i find in my squads. I like it a lot like this

If you are going to make multiple toons and your cleric is not going to pvp, i think it would actually not be a silly plan to make it similar and leave it like that. A well balanced half morai half G16 cleric is really more than sufficient for pve.

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver · May 2014

Ultimately TT90 is the better option.

What I recommend is:

Joining Nation Wars, saving enough raps and uncannies to G15 your gear. You don't want to stop at just G13, due to the blacksmith level. (Unless you're a level 7 blacksmith, and a level 7 tailor.)

The prices vary for each server. On mines, its going to cost you at or around 22 mil to GOLD TT99 each part of your gear. (I'm not really up to date on it, so that price could be more.) That's the hardest part of it though. From there, you use the raps and uncannies that you've been saving up, and G15 each piece.

So it goes TT90 -> TT99 Gold -> Nirvana G13 -> Nirvana G15

From this point, you can farm your G16 pieces in Warsong and Lunar.

Ways to obtain the mats needed for your TT99:

-Run the instance yourself, with a squad. (Most unreliable, but cheapest route if you're lucky.)
-Purchase the mats needed at the catshops.
-Use a mixture of mysterious chips, and coin to purchase the mats that you need from the mysterious merchant.

Personally, it took a combination of all 3 for these. Had a lot of good friends helping me out in the game.

Now, what I would do in the meantime, IF YOU ARE NOT A LEVEL 7 BLACKSMITH AND TAILOR, DO NOT EQUIP YOUR TT99 GOLD, OR YOUR NIRVANA G13. YOU WANT TO EQUIP IT AT THE G15 PHASE. I'm going to explain why.

TT99 Gold binds on equip, and so does every Nirvana piece that is TT related. This means that you cannot forge it yourself if your blacksmith/tailor levels are unleveled, and you'll be stuck walking around in TT99 and G15 gear until you level your blacksmith/tailor skills, even though you have the mats necessary for G15/G16. It is for that reason, that I recommend Not equipping them, and holding off on wearing them until the G15 stage. (G16 only requires level 1 blacksmith/tailor, so that's not an issue.)

What I would do, once you get your TT99/G13 parts, is to wear your morai gear in the meantime, to substitute out each TT99 Gold/G13 piece. That way you have a reasonably good armor set, while you are busy working on your main gear set. So you don't lose out. My only recommendation at this point would be to try to use a cheap TT/FC/Legendary green weapon to substitute the morai weapon, since its not really cleric/mystic friendly, due to a lot of its attack power coming from slaying levels...and that doesn't help our heals.

Nonetheless, this is my recommendation for you and your current situation. Good luck farming your G16.

djrank · May 2014

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Ultimately TT90 is the better option.

What I recommend is:

Joining Nation Wars, saving enough raps and uncannies to G15 your gear. You don't want to stop at just G13, due to the blacksmith level. (Unless you're a level 7 blacksmith, and a level 7 tailor.)

The prices vary for each server. On mines, its going to cost you at or around 22 mil to GOLD TT99 each part of your gear. (I'm not really up to date on it, so that price could be more.) That's the hardest part of it though. From there, you use the raps and uncannies that you've been saving up, and G15 each piece.

So it goes TT90 -> TT99 Gold -> Nirvana G13 -> Nirvana G15

From this point, you can farm your G16 pieces in Warsong and Lunar.

Ways to obtain the mats needed for your TT99:

-Run the instance yourself, with a squad. (Most unreliable, but cheapest route if you're lucky.)
-Purchase the mats needed at the catshops.
-Use a mixture of mysterious chips, and coin to purchase the mats that you need from the mysterious merchant.

Personally, it took a combination of all 3 for these. Had a lot of good friends helping me out in the game.

Now, what I would do in the meantime, IF YOU ARE NOT A LEVEL 7 BLACKSMITH AND TAILOR, DO NOT EQUIP YOUR TT99 GOLD, OR YOUR NIRVANA G13. YOU WANT TO EQUIP IT AT THE G15 PHASE. I'm going to explain why.

TT99 Gold binds on equip, and so does every Nirvana piece that is TT related. This means that you cannot forge it yourself if your blacksmith/tailor levels are unleveled, and you'll be stuck walking around in TT99 and G15 gear until you level your blacksmith/tailor skills, even though you have the mats necessary for G15/G16. It is for that reason, that I recommend Not equipping them, and holding off on wearing them until the G15 stage. (G16 only requires level 1 blacksmith/tailor, so that's not an issue.)

What I would do, once you get your TT99/G13 parts, is to wear your morai gear in the meantime, to substitute out each TT99 Gold/G13 piece. That way you have a reasonably good armor set, while you are busy working on your main gear set. So you don't lose out. My only recommendation at this point would be to try to use a cheap TT/FC/Legendary green weapon to substitute the morai weapon, since its not really cleric/mystic friendly, due to a lot of its attack power coming from slaying levels...and that doesn't help our heals.

Nonetheless, this is my recommendation for you and your current situation. Good luck farming your G16.

Thank you very much il do as what u say
much appreciated everyone

djrank · May 2014

Hello all im back to ask you another question , im kind of broke and i dont have a lot of time to farm my tt99 mats , should i put my time to get to lvl 100 and then making my g16 and stay with my morai +3 gears or should i farm the gears before i hit lvl 100 ?
thank you all

opkossy · May 2014

Go ahead and level. That way you can at least use what you've farmed to make getting more easier instead of having it all in the bank and unable to really help you.

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver · May 2014

Leveling up would serve you best here.

You have a chance of earning coin from your bh100's.

Chances include...
-Excitement card. (NPC it for 5 mil. coin.)
-2 Ecstacy Cards. (NPC ot for 2 mil. coin.)
-40 Socket Stones. (Sell them to certain catshops for a various amount of coin.)
-55 Mirages. (Useful for refining, but you can even sell them, if worse comes to worse.)
-55 Mysterious chips. (Remember that you can get your TT99 mats through a mixture of chips and coin as well from the mysterious merchant.)
-Orb of cultivation. (Useless.)

Also, if NW doesn't conflict with your schedule, I suggest running it. You don't have to be in a squad to do it, and you will die. (I always die.) Just have fun doing it, get your tokens as a reward, then create raps and uncannies for Nirvana gear. If coin is an issue, don't use them yet. Simply sell them to catshops, and profit.

You can do pretty massive AOE poison grinds if you're around level 100 now too.

The mysterious man...(Not the mysterious merchant) will also exchange any nirvana talismans you get for either 5 mirages, 5 ultimate substances, or 10 mysterious chips. These add up in the end, so don't neglect them. He even gives you a free one daily, and will exchange it also. If you don't need those mats at the time, sell them. He only does this for level 100+ players.

Autocultivate if you can.

These are some advantages to leveling up, as well as a few methods to make coin that don't require a great investment of time, or wealth.

If you've done the morai quests, I believe that you can also catshop sell the chests in AEU, but that's up to you....whether to open them yourself for a chance at the drop, or to catshop them for a profit. Both ways work. Its simply up to you.

Hopefully that helps a little. (Plus you deal additional damage to mobs, have more hp, more mp, more defenses when trying to use fight in TT. Remember that if your blacksmith/tailor level is low, you're not going to equip your TT99, nor your Nirvana G13 anyways. You'll be shooting for your G15 Nirvana You can't wear any type of nirvana gear until level 100, so go ahead and level.

djrank · May 2014

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Leveling up would serve you best here.

You have a chance of earning coin from your bh100's.

Chances include...
-Excitement card. (NPC it for 5 mil. coin.)
-2 Ecstacy Cards. (NPC ot for 2 mil. coin.)
-40 Socket Stones. (Sell them to certain catshops for a various amount of coin.)
-55 Mirages. (Useful for refining, but you can even sell them, if worse comes to worse.)
-55 Mysterious chips. (Remember that you can get your TT99 mats through a mixture of chips and coin as well from the mysterious merchant.)
-Orb of cultivation. (Useless.)

Also, if NW doesn't conflict with your schedule, I suggest running it. You don't have to be in a squad to do it, and you will die. (I always die.) Just have fun doing it, get your tokens as a reward, then create raps and uncannies for Nirvana gear. If coin is an issue, don't use them yet. Simply sell them to catshops, and profit.

You can do pretty massive AOE poison grinds if you're around level 100 now too.

The mysterious man...(Not the mysterious merchant) will also exchange any nirvana talismans you get for either 5 mirages, 5 ultimate substances, or 10 mysterious chips. These add up in the end, so don't neglect them. He even gives you a free one daily, and will exchange it also. If you don't need those mats at the time, sell them. He only does this for level 100+ players.

Autocultivate if you can.

These are some advantages to leveling up, as well as a few methods to make coin that don't require a great investment of time, or wealth.

If you've done the morai quests, I believe that you can also catshop sell the chests in AEU, but that's up to you....whether to open them yourself for a chance at the drop, or to catshop them for a profit. Both ways work. Its simply up to you.

Hopefully that helps a little. (Plus you deal additional damage to mobs, have more hp, more mp, more defenses when trying to use fight in TT. Remember that if your blacksmith/tailor level is low, you're not going to equip your TT99, nor your Nirvana G13 anyways. You'll be shooting for your G15 Nirvana You can't wear any type of nirvana gear until level 100, so go ahead and level.

thank you this is what i thought , just another question if you dont mind : my tt99 can be crafted from mysterious chips and coins ? and where is the the mysterious merchant excatly ?

WannaBM - Archosaur · May 2014

The TT gold materials needed for TT99 can be bought at the mysterious merchant for chips+coin.

The chips needed is insignificant. Its the coins that its about. The mats cost up to 18m coins a piece. They are cheaper to buy from other players who farm twilight temple and sell those mats.

If you are unfortunate enough to be unable to find a player offering those mats, you will find a mysterious merchant in archosaur west allong the main street, just south of the teleport.

Morai gear or tt 90 ?

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