Get us a decent Ranking! please (:

Joe - Morai · May 2014

so. This is coming from a player that is now around since 5 and a half year:

We need new Rankings.Like really bad. I for one always ought to get better gears and to give it all just to be in the rankings. Thats a huge motivation factor for some players and the lack of a decent ranking system is just annoying and please dont start about the bugged and outdated old ranking system that is still accesible via the old Euro Pages. The whole old system was faulty to begin with and only applied to the primal version of this game.

Why not create a new, point based ranking system. We have everything that would be needed to create a fair ranking system that would push ppl into playing better plus prevent some nasty guys to just tab kill ppl in TW/NW. It's simple. Make it based on Soulforce.

Here's a little idea I had about it:

If a players Soulforce is 10k lower then yours then you wont be rewarded with a point.
If you kill someone with 10k or more Soulforce over your own, then you will be rewarded with 2 points. (you could scale this for 20k more aso). And lets make the other one lose a point in this case (:

That would be amazing imho and I really dont see any downside of it. You could ofc implement some things to help certain classes remain their point count especially during TW. So just make it so that you wont get any negative points during TW, only positive ones with the restrictions above mentioned ofc.

@Sparkie and the PWE Mamagement: Dont tell me that this is not possible cuz of China because this should be something you guys can come up ob your own without too much of a fuzz.

What do you guys think? I know its not perfect yet...but its only an idea so far. I guess with a ranking like that we could really see the best players on top for once and prevent manipulation of the rankings to some extent. Anyways I really would love to see a new ranking system w/e it may be.

RankNine - Momaganon · May 2014

the only "bug" the current ranking has, is the calculation of the kill-death.
if we have 10 1vs1s, and we both win 5, we both get 1 kill and 5 deaths counted.
kills count once per player per hour (no count if 30 lvl lower than you), deaths always count.

the reason for you not to be in the ranking is simple: you didnt kill enough ppl.
try to play 1 char in NW - not 8 and you might be in soon.

but i do approve the idea of any new/updated ranking, it increases the pvp fun and might motivate players to charge more zen

Infamous_me - Archosaur · May 2014

I personally love the idea of a new ranking system. Maybe then we will have more pk, gives people a new goal to work towards b:victory

PREIIST - Morai · May 2014

RankNine - Momaganon wrote: »

the reason for you not to be in the ranking is simple: you didnt kill enough ppl.
try to play 1 char in NW - not 8 and you might be in soon.

At least he dosent kill alts to be there b:chuckle

RankNine - Momaganon · May 2014

PREIIST - Morai wrote: »

At least he dosent kill alts to be there b:chuckle

first of, im sure he actually does that in NW, secondly, i once saw 3 of yours with 10% hp outside of warsong.

haters gonna hateb:chuckle

Sevchenko - Dreamweaver · May 2014

I like the Idea, but that could be built-in the game.

Like, appear on your "C" panel showing your ranking and how many points you have.

But having a very well designed and almost exploit-safe system.

My thoughts (Probably very wrong tho xD):
Player scores 100 points for killing someone with 1000 or more soulforce than his own, 150 points for 5000 soulforce in difference. (For free PK scenario)
In a Ranked Duel: Player scores a random value between 15 and 150, the more damage taken/dealt in less time awards with more points)
- 3rd party heals invalidates the duel.
- Someone leaves combat mode for over 4 seconds invalidates the duel.
- Ranked duels will have a 24 hour cooldown against same target.
Q = Number of skills Used by Winner (Apos/genie count)
W = Number of skills Used by Loser (Apos/genie count)
E = Total damage dealt by winner
R = Total damage dealt by loser
Scores = ( { [(W/Q) * 100] + [ (R/E) * 100] } / 20 ) * 15 (caps at 150)
- Switch W/Q if loser used more skills
- Switch R/E if loser dealt more damage

NW/TW go according to these rules:
- 100 points per kill, 45 if player has inferior soulforce, 125 if higher. (soulforces close by 2000 points are considered "equal").
- No points are awarded if the killed person did not retaliate.
- No points are awarded if person killed have been killed in the last 15 minutes.
- Can only score 3 times on the same person per day.
- If killed person is below lv 100 and not reawakened, scores are not given.
- 10% extra points if you killed someone else less than 5s ago (i mean, 10% extra points for killstreak)
- Scores not given for killing players below lv 60. (reawakened or not).
- For every 5% HP you take from a target, you score 1 extra point. Doesn't apply to 100- targets.

Dying: Being killed by someone 4500 or more soulforce less than you results in 65 points penalty.

Well im not a mathemagician or something, but I do believe they could do something about like this. I'm sure they have qualified personnel to develop good formulas.
I also think we have some forum Guru's like Asterelle to post their own personal thoughts and formulas maybe.

Edit: An alternative system would be

- 3 variables count: Kills, Deaths, Sev points
- Kills and deaths only count for TW/NW and open PK.
- Deaths always count. 15 minutes cooldown to count kill on someone.
- Can only score kill on same person 3 times a day.
- No kills/deaths/sev points count for targets above 5k soulforce in difference.
- No kills/deaths/sevs count against 100- non-reborn targets.
- No points scored against 60 and below targets.
- Get 1 "Sev" point for every 1% target's hp you do in damage.
- Get 1 "Sev" point for every 1% hp damage you survive to from players.
- Get 1 "Sev" point for every 1% ally HP healed (doesn't count for self heals).
- Landing a new debuff on target = 1 Sev point.
- Duels and FSP/UCH/Warsong pk doesnt count.
- Your rating is [Kills x (Sev points/200)] / (Deaths x Deaths) b:victory

Sounds fair I guess.

PREIIST - Morai · May 2014

RankNine - Momaganon wrote: »

first of, im sure he actually does that in NW, secondly, i once saw 3 of yours with 10% hp outside of warsong.

haters gonna hateb:chuckle

3 alts ? and outside ws ?b:sad .
1)my alts never white 2)3 is actually impossible ,1 maybe if it dies during ws, but 3 ? I am not you to bot on archer + sin+ psy same time b:surrender 3)its not haters gonna hate ,its suckers gonna suck b:kiss

AzureWings - Raging Tide · May 2014

Battle of Immortals had a ranking of player power...

But PWI has a ranking in dmg delt on this golem.

trands · May 2014

I don't see a reason to make a new ranking system. There will always be those who don't care much (or at all) about rankings and even if they appear in it thanks to gear, they won't change their behaviour or playstyle. Then there are those who care a lot about the rankings (or 1 aspect of it) and play according to that. In that last group, there will be those who go completely overboard and try to play, with or for the rules no matter what they are, in order to be ranked better.

You won't make it fair anyway, because those who are obsessed with it will always find ways to get an advantage. I'm 100% sure there will be players caring enough to gear up alts with enough soulforce to kill and get ranked better, or make amazing shards-**** refines characters, or stalk good players to hunt last hits in TW/NW, ...

And honestly, does it really matter? As long as players with the same interests play togather and have fun, where is the harm to have a biaised ranking? If this is based on your personal ranking (idk, I never look at the rankings), maybe you should review your priorities or approach, rather then wanting the system to change.

Get us a decent Ranking! please (:

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