Deity Wiz an option?

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ablabahabla
ablabahabla Posts: 67 Arc User
edited June 2014 in Wizard
since new sin skills and passives makes wiz pretty f'''ed up, maybe going deity wiz might be an option.
Anyone tried already or thought abut it?

cause life hunter/elimination kinda wrecks u even if full josd why not go for deity and atleast start dealing some dmg again
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  • Dragslave - Dreamweaver
    Dragslave - Dreamweaver Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    idk what relation u find between a sin skill that hits hard, and deity wiz... If what u want is surviving the sin, go jades if u can afford, and i dont think any sin can take a josd wiz so easy, im not jades and +12 sins dont kill me with elimination, then again, im demon XD

    Deity wiz, if u can afford it, i think it would be great, with at least +11 refines on gear so u get decent hp and defenses, boosted with cards and all, should hit nicely.

    the problem for wizards now, is the reduction on debuffs, therefore we cant hit that hard anymore, but our survival is pretty great once u get your passives, nuemas and decent cards, so as long as u ca live a bit more, tidal will wear off and sin is easy to kill.
  • WannaBM - Archosaur
    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    atleast start dealing some dmg again

    I am not experienced in PvP, but last time i went to silver pool, i got hit for 35k by a wizzy. (he was JOSD sharded iirc) Sins dont have that much more mdef than barbs (r9 with +10 ornies) so i think you still have plenty oportunity to 1-shot sins.

    Of course i dont know much about PvP, but it seems a bit odd to see you talking about "dealing some dmg again" after this wizzy hitting me for more than i think anyone has ever hit me.
    Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.
  • Shadowvzss - Harshlands
    Shadowvzss - Harshlands Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    since new sin skills and passives makes wiz pretty f'''ed up, maybe going deity wiz might be an option.
    Anyone tried already or thought abut it?

    cause life hunter/elimination kinda wrecks u even if full josd why not go for deity and atleast start dealing some dmg again

    i am deity wizz, its mean i am 1-2hit to any stronger sin with +12 weapon but deal screwed dmg still on enemy

    my gear +11 (well only 3rd armor, nw neck and r9 upgraded ring) rest (helmet, cape,pack ring) ****, i would say with +12 weapon ahve no chance at all with my damage after primal passive
  • ablabahabla
    ablabahabla Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    the problem for wizards now, is the reduction on debuffs, therefore we cant hit that hard anymore, but our survival is pretty great once u get your passives, nuemas and decent cards, so as long as u ca live a bit more, tidal will wear off and sin is easy to kill.

    thats why i started thinking about full deity stone wiz with +11 or even full +12 gears
    because passives and such nerfed our dmg pretty hard.

    the part about elimination was when u got 3 r9rr +12 sins on u and they have like 400+ spirit u pretty dead no matter of deity or josd
  • XXHotXx - Morai
    XXHotXx - Morai Posts: 1,246 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    i get solid 15-18k from deity sins on my full buffs from stealth on my full josd full +12... 47 p.res and 120 def levels

    we never used to be dpsers so josd cant help sustain our dps, but still gives survivability to sustain our high channelling times

    problem is that now we are not even hard dphers anymore so i dunno... i believe it would be the same...

    you still will have to IG on sins anyways and still will have to AA to kill something
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  • Infamous_me - Archosaur
    Infamous_me - Archosaur Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    In my opinion going deity on wiz is a bad idea. Sure you will one shot almost everything, but will be 1 shot to alot more too. Thats just my opinion
  • FaceRolI - Sanctuary
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    20 x die ty wizard http://youtu.be/UuvTK_apzAI

    I dont think deity is the way to go. you will probably derive the most benefit in TW though. ofc don't have the same ability to tank/absorb damage for your team, ultis will kill slightly more people.
    full r999 91% chan wizzy b:kiss

    Current build: pwcalc.com/bf1f46790766e26d
    LuLz: pwcalc.com/20f3fa96ab3c4dc0
  • CapnK - Sanctuary
    CapnK - Sanctuary Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    145k on that poor veno at 13:14 b:bye

    But yeah I've noticed even with deities you're having trouble killing my (exclusive sharded) mystic in NW, deity probably isn't viable in smaller battles.
  • Euzebe - Sanctuary
    Euzebe - Sanctuary Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    Further proof that wizards don't deal enough dmg. Good video.
  • Shadowvzss - Harshlands
    Shadowvzss - Harshlands Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    Further proof that wizards don't deal enough dmg. Good video.

    my wizz barb got 76k from not endgame psy even was r9 barb, 13k on my old sin what was r9 and that dmg was without any debuff, spark/voodoo or any buff or debuff etc simple starter psy skill :D
    debuff what win and outgeared others with gear/card/spirit.....

    outgearing peoples is outgearing
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    right now i'm hitting people that have comparable gear for 2-3k. the only passive I have atm (just returned to game) is the attack one at level 4, i can't imagine a few more levels is going to make that much of a difference, whereas every other class is rolling 10-20ks off me effortlessly in half the time. it's a joke lol. I really hope I can at least become tanky as fuq once I get my defense passive up, otherwise I'm not gonna waste my time playing wizards anymore, they've consistently been the worst class in this game for years all things considering. there's a reason there are so few, yet nobody but actual wizard players themselves reflect on that fact.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsjQODfUhGk
  • Shadowvzss - Harshlands
    Shadowvzss - Harshlands Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    right now i'm hitting people that have comparable gear for 2-3k. the only passive I have atm (just returned to game) is the attack one at level 4, i can't imagine a few more levels is going to make that much of a difference, whereas every other class is rolling 10-20ks off me effortlessly in half the time. it's a joke lol. I really hope I can at least become tanky as fuq once I get my defense passive up, otherwise I'm not gonna waste my time playing wizards anymore, they've consistently been the worst class in this game for years all things considering. there's a reason there are so few, yet nobody but actual wizard players themselves reflect on that fact.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsjQODfUhGk

    interesting non of u wrote to suggestion thread http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1692491

    exclude me and hot, so we got declared like qq'ers because others thing wizz arent bad at all, dont need bosst, btw i tell to u dont expect huge change with defence nerf, u got less profit from it than other casters if u demon wizz, less visible difference
  • XXHotXx - Morai
    XXHotXx - Morai Posts: 1,246 Arc User
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    interesting non of u wrote to suggestion thread http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1692491

    exclude me and hot, so we got declared like qq'ers because others thing wizz arent bad at all, dont need bosst, btw i tell to u dont expect huge change with defence nerf, u got less profit from it than other casters if u demon wizz, less visible difference

    well ofc all the non-wizards just shouting at us blabla undinespark blablabla oneshot blabla

    wizards are really trash nowadays if compared to other classe we really struggle in dealing damage...

    the only way for a wiz is the outgearing way... if you cant outgear, you ll be a chi bag if not a oneshot

    and yea dont expect much from passives, wizards already had high resistances pre-NH patch, NH patch give us 1-2% more damage reduction nothing much
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  • Shadowvzss - Harshlands
    Shadowvzss - Harshlands Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    wizards are really trash nowadays if compared to other classe we really struggle in dealing damage...

    actually mostly sin+psy who instead nerf was buffed, mainly sin
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    interesting non of u wrote to suggestion thread http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1692491

    exclude me and hot, so we got declared like qq'ers because others thing wizz arent bad at all, dont need bosst, btw i tell to u dont expect huge change with defence nerf, u got less profit from it than other casters if u demon wizz, less visible difference

    i'm sage. as for the thread, first time seeing it. unfortunately, you can't appeal to reason with people on this forum when their only experience with wizards is one scenario ingrained in their memory. that is, of course, dieing to spark, never mind all the other drawbacks to being a wizard as compared to other classes

    it's hilarious, I cannot even begin to tell you how many friends I've had over the 4-5 years of playing this game tell me they planned on rolling a wizard, then quitting a week later. only one that spent enough to fully deck his wizard out in +12 and jades obviously continued playing him.
  • Shadowvzss - Harshlands
    Shadowvzss - Harshlands Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    i'm sage. as for the thread, first time seeing it. unfortunately, you can't appeal to reason with people on this forum when their only experience with wizards is one scenario ingrained in their memory. that is, of course, dieing to spark, never mind all the other drawbacks to being a wizard as compared to other classes

    it's hilarious, I cannot even begin to tell you how many friends I've had over the 4-5 years of playing this game tell me they planned on rolling a wizard, then quitting a week later. only one that spent enough to fully deck his wizard out in +12 and jades obviously continued playing him.

    but if u also dont tell to the thread then still look like only 2 ppl think this to non trollers too....
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    but if u also dont tell to the thread then still look like only 2 ppl think this to non trollers too....

    haters gonna hate homie, who cares what they think. its not like pwi would change anything anyway.
  • Shadowvzss - Harshlands
    Shadowvzss - Harshlands Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    haters gonna hate homie, who cares what they think. its not like pwi would change anything anyway.

    it was suggestion box not hater box
  • Lolozaurus - Morai
    Lolozaurus - Morai Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    well ofc all the non-wizards just shouting at us blabla undinespark blablabla oneshot blabla

    wizards are really trash nowadays if compared to other classe we really struggle in dealing damage...

    the only way for a wiz is the outgearing way... if you cant outgear, you ll be a chi bag if not a oneshot

    and yea dont expect much from passives, wizards already had high resistances pre-NH patch, NH patch give us 1-2% more damage reduction nothing much

    WIZARDS=GARBAGE!

    PWI FIXED THE GAME BY **** UP ANOTHER CLASS. Have fun PWI with 200 random people per server who login every now and then.
  • XXHotXx - Morai
    XXHotXx - Morai Posts: 1,246 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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    WIZARDS=GARBAGE!

    PWI FIXED THE GAME BY **** UP ANOTHER CLASS. Have fun PWI with 200 random people per server who login every now and then.

    i just rerolled a different class i inted to play in my next future b:laugh
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  • Lolozaurus - Morai
    Lolozaurus - Morai Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited June 2014
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    I got back in the game, logged and did some sparring with my BM friend. Unbuffed, with earth shield I had 105 def lvls 27k pdeff and pdef charms and still his BM crits raged from 12k, 14k 24k and I only have 18k hp buffed and 570 spirit. He had in the range of 400 spirit yet his zerk crits were chopping through my health bar. Sins can do the same to me with even less gear.b:cry
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited June 2014
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    I got back in the game, logged and did some sparring with my BM friend. Unbuffed, with earth shield I had 105 def lvls 27k pdeff and pdef charms and still his BM crits raged from 12k, 14k 24k and I only have 18k hp buffed and 570 spirit. He had in the range of 400 spirit yet his zerk crits were chopping through my health bar. Sins can do the same to me with even less gear.b:cry

    yeah man, I really am baffled myself. I don't have my passives yet, but ... damn, it's so ridiculous having people roll 20ks off me in half a second while I tap them for 3k after going through all this effort to debuff them and take advantage of the terrain and the small window of opportunity to even attack. the hell happened to this game.