Venomancer's Bramble Nerfed in PK!

tfi3f wrote: »

If they don't want to give us back reflect, ...

As you like to point fingers at others whenever they say something that is wrong in your opinion, i can't resist to quote this and show you that you are wrong here: reflect has never worked in open pvp. never! since the beginning of pwi it is the way it is now. so there is nothing they could give us back, they never took anything away.

bramble's reflect works in duels, in tourney, in cube of fate and in tw. why does it work there and not in open pvp? good question. but still a veno should have learnt to pvp w/o reflect. although i have to admit, it's nice to see sins killing themselves in 1 to 3 hits with bramble hood being active in TW.

y do other classes like clerics have spammable protective skills? most likely for pve. so a cleric doesn't die directly if they get hit by mobs. venos aren't supposed to get hit as our pets tank.
y wouldn't it work to reduce the chi costs for hood? in pvp venos have the ability to purge most of the protective skills other classes have. so being able to semi-spam hood while being able to purge your opponent would be a bit too much. also in places where reflect works (like TW) all venos would use it every 30 seconds.

solution? on the one the hand learn to deal with sins. keep running around, especially if u r demon. don't stand still. if u run around with demon fox and a sin teleports to u, then u r still some meters away and he needs to catch up which gives u an additional second or two to react and use ur genie for example. imo sins aren't hard to kill. to be honest they r like the easiest class to kill.
on the other hand magic weapons with purify addon have been introduced together with the guildbases. i expect more of those to come cause it rly helps a lot in pvp vs sins. the purify effect seems to have a chance of about 20-25% to proc when you get hit (actually it procs pretty often), so it's almost impossible for any melee class to stunlock. additionally to the purify the weapon also increases your speed by 200% and makes you immune to stun for 5 seconds as soon as the purify procs.
so if u have problems with melee classes, get the g13 guildbase weapon that is available or wait for other (cheaper) magic weapons with purify addon to be added to the game.

Basicly cause in TW, you're here to take or defend a territory . So people wouldnt complain since you're not here to farm pk kills .
Sins are not hated cause they are sins, but cause of stealth+double spark+ST+auto attack = b:victory

Marengo - Lost City wrote: »

To be honest i thought it worked at the time of beta test. But i might be wrong since i joined later.

That is correct: on PW-MY during beta veno bramble used to work. When they made the international version, it was made off of the existing PW-MY which had already nerfed bramble. But yes, bramble used to work way back in open PvP.

klystron wrote: »

When i first made a veno at the start of PWI over 5 years ago bramble did work against other players. All other arcanes have a defence buff but not veno's , Bramble reflects a % of damage back but DOES NOT stop the damage reaching them. They take the full damage of the hit. Added to this they have less mp to play with than other arcanes and their skills do less damage than others. i dont see PWi crippling Psy or Seekers do you ? Unless my memory fails me bramble still worked until sins arrived on the scene shortley after that it was changed. Ive had pk sins die on my bramble shileld and not in TW and duels just like they do against a psys shield if they dont know how to play their char and just try to rely on being totaly OP. Put Bramble back as it was please and restore the balance

This looks like a NECRO!

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Let's see how long it takes for a mod to close this