Work-around for patch for non-Arc users?

I had to uncheck "automatically update client" in the update box when the PWI launcher comes up. After that, click manual, and move to the destination where the patch was downloaded. When I tried to double click the manual patch, it tried redownloading after opening Arc. Unfortunately, I had to install Arc though. I suggest leave it installed unless you want to install/uninstall it every week.

Surtr wrote: »

We are currently working on a workaround for users with outdated clients that are not being detected by Arc; if all goes well it should be available within the next day or two. Until then, the easiest solution is to simply reinstall the game through Arc.

We have no plans to provide non-Arc options for PWI.

In other words...."**** you guys, we don't care if you rage quit"

Surtr wrote: »

We are currently working on a workaround for users with outdated clients that are not being detected by Arc; if all goes well it should be available within the next day or two. Until then, the easiest solution is to simply reinstall the game through Arc.

We have no plans to provide non-Arc options for PWI.

Thats fine if you dont have plans for non-arc options......I MADE MY OWN!!
I know you gms/cms wont listen to this,,,in any form whatsoever.... but it may come to a supprise to you that not everyone likes some junk fail pos steam lookalike running in the background that offers no real legit reason to actually use it other then you removing other ways to get things like blessings and making it a arc ONLY item, by doing so, your FORCING non arc users to use it thus making the download count for arc higher and in turn making yourselves feel good. " o hey, we got 20k downloads this week, arc must be good" while totally ignoring the fact you closed ALL roads to things like facebook connect>blessings/DQ rewards/core connect and opening only ONE road for blessings...by force mind you,
(which btw dont even show for all toons no more)
So "forcing" downloads and "forcing" users to use arc makes arc seem "wanted" by the users who pay your paychecks?
OK, lets break it down then...
ARC: we can get blessings thru it...+1
USERS: Loss of core connect.-1
A reverting of the pwi site back to the old version to cut off people from using facebook connect for blessings thus "forcing" another reason to download arc. -1
Arc not acknowledging current pwi installs.-1
Arc forcing a 16gb download cus it dont recognize its own game it was integrated with. -1
Arc causing lag on some people, not all. (differs based on uses computer)-1


i can go on and on and there are problems with it for some users i can say i dont have thank goodness.

If it wasnt for the "forceful" way you introduced arc, heck i wouldnt have a single complaint.
But that aint the case is it?

Sizzer - Raging Tide wrote: »

ARC isn't harmful at all, so there's no point in Quitting the game just because of it.

Your right, its not harmful. i completely agree.
Im just irritated at the fact it was forced on us is all.

MagicSiren - Archosaur wrote: »

Thank you very much for this.

To the people that say Arc "is not harmfull" i can just say that trying to discard a con dont make it a pro. Best thing people was able to say about arc is that on their system it didnt cause any trouble, but that doesnt mean that has done any good either. Arc dont give anything to the game that we didnt had before they add it, so up to now if it has no PRO and it does has CON for many people (like me) that they dont want a useless program running on background. If the program wasnt ABSOLUTLY USELESS we coulndt still find workaround and play the game with full funcionality.

Basically the developers should put their efforce on adding any PRO to that aplication or any CON it has will turn the balance against it.

This is just the half rent. You need to eliminate all wrting rights on the Launcher Folder after deleting said file. This way arc will never ever bother you again. Like it never happened to begin with =P If you dont refuse the writing rights for any user the launcher will simply replace the .dll =P

PS: I wonder if this will get me into trouble =P

as for your pros vs cons things... I get that you don't want arc on your computer. it's normal for people to dislike change.

the PRO'S list that I've thus far uncovered, is this;
- It stabilizes the game. I haven't lag spiked all over the damn map at random since I installed it. Not sure if this is because of ARC specifically, or just because pwi's been having a good streak with this, but it's worth mentioning.
- It makes the game overall run better. I was able to turn the graphics up to a point which *used* to crash my computer's graphics card, repeatedly, when they were up that high.
- you can avoid all this "help me, I use the work around and I can't figure out how- ect ect ect" nonsense. you launch pwi, pwi launches arc, grab yourself some free blessings before setting it into a background process, and enjoy your gaming. PWI boots and "runs" just the same as before, with the aforementioned notations being a nice, noticeable difference.
- Despite a massive panic spike before it was made mandatory, arc does indeed not stop multi clienting in any way. This was a huuuuuge issue for me, so, just wanted to get that on the table.

Cons, mainly, you have to put up with a lot more work and nonsensical stuff just to be able to play the game the same as the rest of us who have installed arc.


New players coming to the game aren't going to be like "THIS WASN'T MANDATORY BEFORE, RAAAGE b:angry." no, they're not even going to give it a second thought if they're veteran gamers. Games have launchers! it's a normal thing. and *besides* all of this, as a footnote, there's always a chance that with this new affiliation with arc for pwi, good things might come of it. Obviously there's more advertising for the game, and that's good, but leaning more towards the gameplay aspects, the pwi staff have long since tossed pwi over their shoulder and called it done. There hasn't been a single update since arc became a known "this is what we're doing" thing that I haven't enjoyed. Whether that's because of arcs staff actually working with pwi staff, or pwi staff trying to convince the arc staff that this game hasn't been on a backburner for years, I don't know. The point is, I see it as a good thing, and hope for more good things to come.

I just used the workaround of deleting the Arc lines (174-181) from the stringtab document in the patcher folder and mine updated normally by using elementclient.

Starting the patcher with the arc:1 option works just as well. That's how I got mine patched, anyway.

Redoubt - Harshlands wrote: »

May I ask how to start with the options. Use small words, every step. I'm a transplant from another era.

1. Right click on your "patcher.exe" file and select "Create Shortcut"
2. Right click on the newly-created shortcut file and go to Properties
3. Add "arc:1" to the target path, OUTSIDE the quotes
4. Hit OK and run the shortcut.

Jarkhen - Archosaur wrote: »

1. Right click on your "patcher.exe" file and select "Create Shortcut"
2. Right click on the newly-created shortcut file and go to Properties
3. Add "arc:1" to the target path, OUTSIDE the quotes
4. Hit OK and run the shortcut.

i tried that it said naame not valid

EIayne - Dreamweaver wrote: »

as for your pros vs cons things... I get that you don't want arc on your computer. it's normal for people to dislike change.

the PRO'S list that I've thus far uncovered, is this;
- It stabilizes the game. I haven't lag spiked all over the damn map at random since I installed it. Not sure if this is because of ARC specifically, or just because pwi's been having a good streak with this, but it's worth mentioning.

I play the game without arc and have any of issues nor now nor after


- It makes the game overall run better. I was able to turn the graphics up to a point which *used* to crash my computer's graphics card, repeatedly, when they were up that high.

Again, Arc doenst have any effect on the elementclient.exe. Its all about PC configuration but Arc is just an aplication that run completly independent from the game.


- you can avoid all this "help me, I use the work around and I can't figure out how- ect ect ect" nonsense. you launch pwi, pwi launches arc, grab yourself some free blessings before setting it into a background process, and enjoy your gaming. PWI boots and "runs" just the same as before, with the aforementioned notations being a nice, noticeable difference.

U could get the blessing for before Arc too, the problem about people asking how to avoid it was created at the moment they create Arc. How can create a problem could be even considered a PRO b:surrender ?


- Despite a massive panic spike before it was made mandatory, arc does indeed not stop multi clienting in any way. This was a huuuuuge issue for me, so, just wanted to get that on the table.

Again, how can NO create a problem with something we already have can be considered a PRO? We could multiclient before and we can multiclient now, arc didnt bring anything good.



Cons, mainly, you have to put up with a lot more work and nonsensical stuff just to be able to play the game the same as the rest of us who have installed arc.

I dont have any issue rigth now, PWI programing staff has no acces to the program code itself. Starting from tha point that was the main excuse to not solve the game problems, I can be totally safe knowing that it always going to exist a workaround becuase they just CANT mess up the original program.


New players coming to the game aren't going to be like "THIS WASN'T MANDATORY BEFORE, RAAAGE b:angry." no, they're not even going to give it a second thought if they're veteran gamers. Games have launchers! it's a normal thing. and *besides* all of this, as a footnote, there's always a chance that with this new affiliation with arc for pwi, good things might come of it. Obviously there's more advertising for the game, and that's good, but leaning more towards the gameplay aspects, the pwi staff have long since tossed pwi over their shoulder and called it done. There hasn't been a single update since arc became a known "this is what we're doing" thing that I haven't enjoyed. Whether that's because of arcs staff actually working with pwi staff, or pwi staff trying to convince the arc staff that this game hasn't been on a backburner for years, I don't know. The point is, I see it as a good thing, and hope for more good things to come.

Answers on red for ur "PROs", still not a single person can give a pro to this thingy. NOTHING was improved with this implemantation, not a single thing we have now that we couldnt have before. The thing is basic, Arc is a parallel application to the game that has no effect on the game usage. Arc is just another program that try to get installed on ur task bar and stay there just in case, now the good question would be "In case of what?"

Ufoundwaldo - Sanctuary wrote: »

OK. everyone always gets confused. The quotes before and after a command we tell you to add in the target section of a shortcut, needs to be there or else you get invalids. Another thing, those of you that downloaded arc to get blessings and are having trouble updating, you probably had a new installation of PWI so its now located in c:\program files (x86)\Perfect World Internation\PWI_en\
There u can find your element folder and patcher folder to create new links and change your targets as needed with these workarrounds we provide your. if this does not make sense, THEN YOUR STUCK USING ARC.

i just read this
good lookin bro

You could also just Open the clients that you need open, then ctrl/alt/delete, task manager and force quit Arc. Your client windows stay open and operable while Arc closes and you don't have to have it ruining your game experience by sucking up your memory.

You're welcome. b:chuckle

After being absent from the game for months now and coming back (albeit very momentarily) this was just the thread I needed! Thanks everyone.


AAAAAAAAAAAND the cuddles monster strikes again b:victory