How to add an argument to the element client

_BIackRose_ - Raging Tide
_BIackRose_ - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
edited February 2015 in General Discussion
Hello! i've been lurking on the forums the past few days and seen many people posting about bypassing arc with a "start by patcher" argument. however to the average person that isn't much help, most won't even know what an argument is or how to add it into the file. posts like the one below aren't exactly helpful if they don't explain how to do it.
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just simply start elementclient.exe using the argument "startbypatcher" and you're good to go.

Just make sure to start the 1st of the two clients using arc, so you don't miss any updates.


copy the element client and paste a shortcut. right click and go into properties and where it says "target" at the end of the filepath on the right add (with the quotes) "startbypatcher"

save it and your good to go. the shortcut now starts up the games client and skips everything else.

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  • Lolgasmic - Raging Tide
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide Posts: 1,315 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I'm not even sure what is going on with Arc... I've been able to start PWI normally like I have been for years. One time I started PWI through Arc but after it booted up all I did was alt-tab and close out Arc.. Pic

    Update: Finally restarted my computer and now Arc is mandatory, when trying to close Arc in the picture above it tells me that it cannot close while an application is running.

    Another update: this was my attempt at the argument and a few things I think should be stated.


    Original Post
    _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Hello! i've been lurking on the forums the past few days and seen many people posting about bypassing arc with a "start by patcher" argument. however to the average person that isn't much help, most won't even know what an argument is or how to add it into the file. posts like the one below aren't exactly helpful if they don't explain how to do it.




    copy the element client and paste a shortcut. right click and go into properties and where it says "target" at the end of the filepath on the right add (with the quotes) "startbypatcher"

    save it and your good to go. the shortcut now starts up the games client and skips everything else.

    Visual aid to help provided by Frijolero!
    34i076x.jpg


    (Images Provided for Steps)


    1) Go through your directory and find "elementclient", it will be the one I have selected in the image. Right click and choose "Create Shortcut". A moment will pass and "elementclient - shortcut" will be created nearby. Click and drag this item onto your desktop.

    2) Here is the shortcut on your desktop. Right click the icon and choose "Properties".

    3) At the end of the Target, make a Space and then type "startbypatcher" with the quotation marks this time. Now just click Apply and you are done.

    If this post seems redundant and you already understood then that is fine; I made this because I felt like more pictures and being as specific as I could would help the 1% that still didn't understand.

    Kudos to SylenThunder, Frijolero and _BIackRose_
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  • _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide
    _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I'm not even sure what is going on with Arc... I've been able to start PWI normally like I have been for years. One time I started PWI through Arc but after it booted up all I did was alt-tab and close out Arc.. Pic

    arc has several issues, i found the first time after patching it starts up normally. tho after that one time it forces arc to load and you can't open another client. by using the argument in the shortcut it loads just the client, completely skipping the patcher and arc altogether.

    tbh arc by itself isn't that bad. i could deal with it. but i think people who have an older system, low ram, etc are having issues, also if you downloaded pwi before arc (or even with an older arc) it has a different file structure

    (pre-arc directory) C:Perfect World Entertainment>perfect world international>etc
    (after-arc ) C:programs>perfect world entertainment>PWI_en>etc

    if you have a pre arc directory for the game it can not find it. i believe there is a tool floating around to fix it tho.

    so the argument just skips the hassle, tho you will still need arc to update the game when needed.
  • pennywise29
    pennywise29 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Could someone copy and paste the whole line from their "target" with the the argument "startbypatcher". I have tried this several times in different ways and I keep getting that it's not a valid pathway.

    Thanks for your help
  • _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide
    _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    pennywise29 wrote: »
    Could someone copy and paste the whole line from their "target" with the the argument "startbypatcher". I have tried this several times in different ways and I keep getting that it's not a valid pathway.

    Thanks for your help

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Perfect World Entertainment\PWI_en\element\elementclient.exe" "startbypatcher"

    just add a space after the last part in the file path and put startbypatcher in quotes:

    "startbypatcher"
  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    SylenThunder - Twilight Temple Posts: 7,908
    edited April 2014
    I think it depends on what flavor of Windows you have.

    I've seen the following....
    ["C:\Perfect World Entertainment\Perfect World International\element\elementclient.exe" startbypatcher]
    [C:\Perfect World Entertainment\Perfect World International\element\elementclient.exe startbypatcher]
    ["C:\Perfect World Entertainment\Perfect World International\element\elementclient.exe startbypatcher"]
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  • pennywise29
    pennywise29 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    SylenThunder... Your a life saver. the first line worked perfectly for me. Many many thanks.

    It took me 3x of complete (regedit) delete and re-install of ARC to to get the thing working. It has tried to add stuff to my other 2 web- browsers which I stopped but it did do my Firefox.

    That worked so well it only took 10 minutes before this thread would open.

    After firing up ARC to log in, it screwed up my accounts so much so that yes, I could access 1 of 2 servers I play, but it could not access my character vaults. Nothing like logging into game and not access character one has played for 5 years.

    How wonderful of PWI to force yet another buggy as hell piece of software that no one wants.
  • _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide
    _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I think it depends on what flavor of Windows you have.

    I've seen the following....
    ["C:\Perfect World Entertainment\Perfect World International\element\elementclient.exe" startbypatcher]
    [C:\Perfect World Entertainment\Perfect World International\element\elementclient.exe startbypatcher]
    ["C:\Perfect World Entertainment\Perfect World International\element\elementclient.exe startbypatcher"]


    possibly, i've always used the config i gave, i used it for a long time to get around needing admin rights to run the game. i know that works on windows 7 and 8.1, i' sure that will help others greatly, ty for the input.
  • Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver
    Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Ok, I'm so far from computer savvy it's sad. Where do I find the "Target" path?
    I've copied and pasted the elementclient shortcut, right clicked and went into properties...But where do I find "Target?"

    I run Windows XP if that makes anything different. :<
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  • _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide
    _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Ok, I'm so far from computer savvy it's sad. Where do I find the "Target" path?
    I've copied and pasted the elementclient shortcut, right clicked and went into properties...But where do I find "Target?"

    I run Windows XP if that makes anything different. :<
    b:surrender

    right click the shortcut and select properties. come to think of it it might say something other then target depending on the version of windows you have. just add startbypatcher to the end of the file path (should be somewhere in the properties menu)
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Ok, I'm so far from computer savvy it's sad. Where do I find the "Target" path?
    I've copied and pasted the elementclient shortcut, right clicked and went into properties...But where do I find "Target?"

    I run Windows XP if that makes anything different. :<
    b:surrender

    On Windows 7, it's under the shortcut tab when you go into Properties. idk about XP though. Been quite awhile since I've used that.
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  • Frijolero - Sanctuary
    Frijolero - Sanctuary Posts: 820 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Ok, I'm so far from computer savvy it's sad. Where do I find the "Target" path?
    I've copied and pasted the elementclient shortcut, right clicked and went into properties...But where do I find "Target?"

    I run Windows XP if that makes anything different. :<
    b:surrender

    Here's an easy to follow visual aid to complement what BlackRose already explained 'bout adding arguments to a Windows shortcut.
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  • Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver
    Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Aha! thank you for the replies you two. Gosh it must have been a long day at work for my brain to be this fried. Found it thanks very much!

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  • _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide
    _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Here's an easy to follow visual aid to complement what BlackRose already explained 'bout adding arguments to a Windows shortcut.

    wow should have thought of a screen shot *facepalm* i'll add the pic to the OP so it won't get lost so others have it.
  • Frijolero - Sanctuary
    Frijolero - Sanctuary Posts: 820 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    wow should have thought of a screen shot *facepalm* i'll add the pic to the OP so it won't get lost so others have it.

    I'm glad to help b:pleased
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  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    possibly, i've always used the config i gave, i used it for a long time to get around needing admin rights to run the game. i know that works on windows 7 and 8.1, i' sure that will help others greatly, ty for the input.

    Just to let you know the game itself does not need admin rights, just the launcher
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  • OpSy - Harshlands
    OpSy - Harshlands Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Hello! i've been lurking on the forums the past few days and seen many people posting about bypassing arc with a "start by patcher" argument. however to the average person that isn't much help, most won't even know what an argument is or how to add it into the file. posts like the one below aren't exactly helpful if they don't explain how to do it.




    copy the element client and paste a shortcut. right click and go into properties and where it says "target" at the end of the filepath on the right add (with the quotes) "startbypatcher"

    save it and your good to go. the shortcut now starts up the games client and skips everything else.

    Visual aid to help provided by Frijolero!
    34i076x.jpg
    LOVE YOU <3 ive tried all ways this one work b:victoryb:thanks
  • swapneelk
    swapneelk Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Blackrose can u tell me how to update pwi without arc on next update if i am using old pwi structure , or i shld let arc install pwi on another drive and put the argument you mentioned to its exe
  • drakensouls
    drakensouls Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    well i tryed this and still no differance to me as soon as i open a 2nd client it bug reports so yeah arc screwed me
  • Caramell - Harshlands
    Caramell - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Here's an easy to follow visual aid to complement what BlackRose already explained 'bout adding arguments to a Windows shortcut.

    For me it doesnt look like on the picture i cant change the path i got windows 7 idk what i do wrong...
  • Vyvyan - Dreamweaver
    Vyvyan - Dreamweaver Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Rather than add a string just rename stringtab.txt in the patcher folder as Sevchenko - Dreamweaver pointed out in another post or even delete it, and launch via elementclient or patcher as before.
  • _Zelda - Morai
    _Zelda - Morai Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Perfect World Entertainment\PWI_en\element\elementclient.exe" "startbypatcher"

    just add a space after the last part in the file path and put startbypatcher in quotes:

    "startbypatcher"

    You are my hero today. Thank you very much. b:thanks
  • Joshuason - Raging Tide
    Joshuason - Raging Tide Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Caramell - Harshlands wrote: »
    For me it doesnt look like on the picture i cant change the path i got windows 7 idk what i do wrong...

    Here's what I did(I'll just re-post what I just posted in another thread):
    Joshuason - Raging Tide wrote: »
    A friend shared a simpler solution(or at least explained how to do it more simply), so here goes: start game, it will bring up arc sign in, so sign in, it will bring you to the main character screen, minimize. Go to start menu, computer, C drive, PerfectWorld, element, elemntclient(DON'T double click), pick, right click, create short cut, then drag shortcut to desktop, then double clik and it will go directly to log in screen. I have Windows 7, so that is how I had to do it. The old way was to using a second user as administrator. Anyhow, wanted to share that in a plain english, more easily understood, step by step solution, which someone shared with me. Nothing fancy.

    This should work if you have Windows 7. Once you have both clients in open and in the task bar it's a matter of just remembering which is which. your first or main account will be overlaying the second account, dual window. Hang your cursor over it and bring one of them up. Enjoy! No need to start a new file path or rename it, unless you want to do that. Depends on your operating system, whether it's Windows 7, XP, whatever, and how your task bar is set up on your computer. Like I said, I have windows 7, this is how it worked for me. See you in game. b:victory

    Note: actually I didn't re post, I copied and pasted! xD Oh well, I'm still learning.
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  • MageMERC - Harshlands
    MageMERC - Harshlands Posts: 1,600 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Thanks very much OP, I installed arc, did the whole registry edit etc and it worked fine....

    When all I had to do was modify the target. Pfft, you guys KNOW stuff. Anyway, I'll keep ARC installed for a bit in case pwi try some other trick, but elementclient opens fine now with your method.
  • _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide
    _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    MageMERC - Harshlands wrote: »
    Thanks very much OP, I installed arc, did the whole registry edit etc and it worked fine....

    When all I had to do was modify the target. Pfft, you guys KNOW stuff. Anyway, I'll keep ARC installed for a bit in case pwi try some other trick, but elementclient opens fine now with your method.

    you will still need to update pwi somehow so you will need to keep arc.
    Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Just to let you know the game itself does not need admin rights, just the launcher

    i know the game doesn't, but you can't start the game without them unless you skip the patcher/arc. both immediately ask for rights as soon as they open. so i used this as a work around to play on other computers.
  • Lolgasmic - Raging Tide
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide Posts: 1,315 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Bump, OP saved me the trouble of Arc. (And I updated my post below the OP)
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  • SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear
    SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear Posts: 703 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I been arguing at the client going on 6 years now.
  • MageMERC - Harshlands
    MageMERC - Harshlands Posts: 1,600 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Bump so friend can find this
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    edited April 2014
    Devilskarma - Raging Tide wrote: »

    Sweetiebot give _BIackRose_ - Raging Tide 10 points for minimizing some lag.
    Umm, is '_BIackRose_ - Raging Tide' really the right name for this?
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    edited April 2014
    SweetieBot - Lothranis wrote: »
    Umm, is '_BIackRose_ - Raging Tide' really the right name for this?
    Try using their exact name with server.

    Sweetiebot give _BIackRose_ of Raging Tide 10 points for minimizing some lag. b:victory
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    edited April 2014
    Devilskarma - Raging Tide wrote: »

    Sweetiebot give _BIackRose_ of Raging Tide 10 points for minimizing some lag.
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