Spark damage not increased on some DPH skills

damage dealing with skills is where luck is concerned u can hit as low as 1k with that skill 1 time on the other u can hit as high as 30k+ or even more there is no consistency rule

How many times have you tested? You should post a chart of your testing results to be analyzed.

which weapon did you use for the damage test? cause 2-3spark increases the damage by weapon damage

therefore if you use a crappy weapon your damage increase is crappy aswell

Personally, I've noticed that my skills are affected just as they should be by sparking. Lifehunter takes the base damage shown in your character window, adds 11.7k to it, and divides it by two for each hit. At 40k sparked, that means each tick of lifehunter is only doing ~26k. Cursed jail and elimination divide the damage up in their own ways.

Elimination acts as follows:
The 1st and 4th hits do 60% base damage each
The 2nd and 3rd hits do 40% base damage each
The 5th hit does 120% base damage
This means the damage from a normal hit on #2 and a zerk-crit on hit #5 will vary by a factor of 12 not including wolf emblem/base damage range.

Cursed jail acts as follows:
Hit 1: 25% of total damage
Hit 2: 10% of total damage
Hit 3: 15% of total damage
Hit 4: 50% of total damage
Here, a normal on hit #2 and a zerk-crit on hit #4 will vary in damage by a factor of 20 excluding wolf emblem/base damage range.

With that kind of range, it is very difficult to make sense of the numbers. From a glance of the damage log, you'd only really notice your highest hits and your lowest hits trending upwards. When doing tests of this sort, you should wear a low level npc dagger, remove gear with max +attack adds, and wear the highest +pattack rings and cards you have. It'll be way easier to compare sparked vs. unsparked if you get rid of the noise coming from min-max attack and zerks+zerkcrits and your only variable is crit and the multiplier on each skill. Use the damage test mob too since it'll give bigger and easily repeatable numbers.

XXHotXx - Morai wrote: »

i can confirm last hit of elimination, especially if 3sparked, is pretty sick in terms of damage

I can confirm that the 3rd hit of curse jail can be pretty sick as well. On a r9rr+12 jaded and citrine psy i got 2-10k hits on that tick. 2kish for reg hit, 10kish for zerk crit.

SoulFeast - Harshlands wrote: »

Anyway it brought my attention about how the skills work based on ur physical atack

interesting

If you're interested in the actual formulae behind damage, I would recommend reading the Wiki entry on damage. For further, more specialized reading, I wrote a PDF about damage calculation for Assassins.

As for what I think is going on here: Sparks only affect your base damage, which is only one of the three components that go into calculating the damage of a skill. The reawakened skills have some very high multipliers for your weapon damage and fairly large static additions, which means that the effect of your base damage on the overall result is going to be lower.

The only case when sparking doesn't affect damage is when a skill does not use your Base damage as a modifier at all.

SoulFeast - Harshlands wrote: »

Hello

About of few weeks ago I've turned DPH assasin, without have any huge experience on DPH playstyle before, also changed my cultivation from Demon to Sage, without have ever played Sage assasin before as well.

I've got Every Primal advanced skills, wich are Cursed Jail, Elimination, Life hunter and Chill of Deep.

Since this is my first contact on DPH, analizyng the combos and the effects of my skills on Sage cultivation, I've noticed that some skills regardless Triple sparked or not, does not change the final damage, I had no clue about this information until then, I've asked my sister and she said that since forever the skills from cultivation 59 being sparked or sparkless the damage still is the same, I've tested it on the skill Life hunter and i confirmed that the same rule apply on this skill, so on Cursed Jail.

I couldn't notice if the same apply on Elimination by the fact that there are several hits, being Normal, crits, or zerk crits.

So my question is , what are the skills that if i use being Sparked or sparkless makes no diference in the final damage?

Cursed Jail - Sparked or Sparkless Doesnt matter
Subsea Strike - Sparked or Sparkless Doesnt matter
Life Hunter - Sparked or Sparkless Doesnt matter
Elimination - ?????
Any other skill?

Dude, all the Assassin skills Deal more damage with sparks.

The only Damage that does not add up with spark is the "damage over time" either from poison by toxic torrent or the damage over time dealt with elimination. the damage over-time is small anyways.

try fighting high hp def ha classes u will kno for sure that spark definitely does increases damage on the skills..