What is the "100%" cost of a dragon orb ocean

RabidFishy - Raging Tide
RabidFishy - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
edited March 2014 in General Discussion
the past 4 "sales" of dragon orb oceans have all claimed to be 50% off however if you include the upcoming sale, they will have been 3 separate prices. being 30g(upcoming)
http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/pwi/detail/3039003-the-coveted-dragon-orb-sale_
35g(last 2)
http://pwi.perfectworld.com/news/?p=945451
http://pwi.perfectworld.com/news/?p=891351
and 25g(2 previous)
http://pwi.perfectworld.com/news/?p=834041
http://pwi.perfectworld.com/news/?p=786371
so i'm wondering what the full price of a typically nonexistant item is?
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    Original price without any form of sale is 75 gold (last time this happened was LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG ago).

    So... yeah. b:chuckle
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  • Soooooooos - Sanctuary
    Soooooooos - Sanctuary Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    OPKossy wrote: »
    Original price without any form of sale is 75 gold (last time this happened was LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG ago).

    So... yeah. b:chuckle

    and a 50 % off is 30 gold b:bye
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    If they're being generous with the rounding.

    They could just do a permanent price reduction like they have with aeros, mounts, and a few other things instead of bothering with the X% off sales (and then they'd avoid criticism like that for an error in our favor).

    At least they have enough sense to not try and sell the orbs without a discount on the original price though.
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  • RabidFishy - Raging Tide
    RabidFishy - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    yet all those sales posted via link say 50% off with the exception of this one

    http://pwi.perfectworld.com/news/?p=1071841

    i think this one might've been 50g but i don't remember the ocean price of it entirely clearly
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  • Kevyy - Harshlands
    Kevyy - Harshlands Posts: 213 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    gold going to be over 3m GG
  • RabidFishy - Raging Tide
    RabidFishy - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    about 3.5 on rt already ... none left in ah
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  • Kevyy - Harshlands
    Kevyy - Harshlands Posts: 213 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    lol ppl are actually paying over 100m for a 10 star you guys are cray.
  • porphy
    porphy Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I've quit at the right time, just saying.
    Been more than a year since I quit playing, but still on rankings.

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  • clokey#3498
    clokey#3498 Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Soooooooos - Sanctuary wrote: »
    and a 50 % off is 30 gold b:bye

    the correct price of 50% from 75 Gold is 37.5
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  • Sir_Wolfman - Raging Tide
    Sir_Wolfman - Raging Tide Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Dragon Orb 10 star has always been 50 gold when no sale and 25 gold when 50% off. There was even a time when they sold them in groups of 5 for 100 gold. So yes there current price is being falsely advertised. I am assuming maybe they changed whoever is in charge of pricing things because they don't seem to know normal prices....
  • Zoldi - Morai
    Zoldi - Morai Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    RabidFishy - Raging Tide wrote: »
    about 3.5 on rt already ... none left in ah

    "Hopefully" gold price was already at 3.7 on Morai before the sales. Since the maximum is 4M it shouldn't change a lot of things for us xD
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  • trands
    trands Posts: 2
    edited March 2014
    If I recall right, the first time 10* orb got in boutique the price was 75 gold. This should still be the normal price.
    Zoldi - Morai wrote: »
    "Hopefully" gold price was already at 3.7 on Morai before the sales. Since the maximum is 4M it shouldn't change a lot of things for us xD

    It still can change a lot. Nothing prevents from selling the items for more then their price in gold x 4 mil. There will just be no gold in AH. The only real cap would be an npc selling gold at a set price.
  • Lolgasmic - Raging Tide
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide Posts: 1,315 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Kevyy - Harshlands wrote: »
    gold going to be over 3m GG

    It was already 3m before this news on Raging Tide.
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  • AlphaOmegaX - Dreamweaver
    AlphaOmegaX - Dreamweaver Posts: 302 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Kevyy - Harshlands wrote: »
    lol ppl are actually paying over 100m for a 10 star you guys are cray.

    I don't know who's worse. The muppets in charge of the BQ.

    OR

    Those that are buying and selling 10* Orbs for 100m+

    As a social study this game is a great enviroment to see the very worst of humanity!! b:chuckle
  • Zoldi - Morai
    Zoldi - Morai Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    trands wrote: »
    It still can change a lot. Nothing prevents from selling the items for more then their price in gold x 4 mil. There will just be no gold in AH. The only real cap would be an npc selling gold at a set price.

    Yeah you're right actually. Things would then be even worse than now because people might not be able to buy gold anymore in this case
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  • ExMyPrecious - Dreamweaver
    ExMyPrecious - Dreamweaver Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Its funny that people that glitched free 10* never got appropriate punishment and now are running around with their new shiny +10-11 refine (i know cuz some are my friends)

    and now normal people have to pay like 80-90m per orb....after 5-6month of even being unable to buy any 10* on market


    GG
  • Maxxxson - Dreamweaver
    Maxxxson - Dreamweaver Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    2.3 Buy and 2.75m sell on DW
    so not too much of a change.

    Also wooh Dreamweaver best economy of em all !
  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    ExMyPrecious - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Its funny that people that glitched free 10* never got appropriate punishment and now are running around with their new shiny +10-11 refine (i know cuz some are my friends)

    and now normal people have to pay like 80-90m per orb....after 5-6month of even being unable to buy any 10* on market


    GG

    ^ this, I`m still waiting for my damn 10* and no I will not pay more than 40m for them, actually it`s good, they are forcing more and more people to quit with their half-assed "sales" not taking into account gold prices which make these sales obsolete, not to mention ARC **** that`s being jammed down our throats, I hope they lose more and more paying customers, this game deserves to die!
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  • Shaftzsk - Heavens Tear
    Shaftzsk - Heavens Tear Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/pwi/detail/1000690-glorious-orb-sale

    100% Price is 50 GOLD.
    It happened not long ago. NO % on sale, and Orb was 50 gold each.
    For a longgg time 50% sale was 25 GOLD.

    They lost too much money due to the 10* glitch and now people who didn't abused are paying for the ones who +11 they set for free b:bye
  • pennywise29
    pennywise29 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Sir_Wolfman - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Dragon Orb 10 star has always been 50 gold when no sale and 25 gold when 50% off. There was even a time when they sold them in groups of 5 for 100 gold. So yes there current price is being falsely advertised. I am assuming maybe they changed whoever is in charge of pricing things because they don't seem to know normal prices....

    AND
    Shaftzsk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/pwi/detail/1000690-glorious-orb-sale
    100% Price is 50 GOLD.
    It happened not long ago. NO % on sale, and Orb was 50 gold each.
    For a longgg time 50% sale was 25 GOLD.
    They lost too much money due to the 10* glitch and now people who didn't abused are paying for the ones who +11 they set for free b:bye

    Yuppers, I was around when the "actual" price was 50 gold and a sale was 5 for 100 gold. PWI is counting on more people not knowing this and who are a little newer to the servers and are not so happy with folks who have been around for 4 years or more. We know how they are **** us over on pricing so most of us don't buy. The less money they make the higher the prices go trying to milk what they can. Unfortunately there are still to many who are willing to pay those prices set and don't understand that to get prices down they need to stop buying.

    PWI will then understand that lower prices make for a much higher volume of sales.

    A wise man once said, "If you look after the game, the money will look after itself. If you chase the money, you kill the game." All PWI is doing now is chasing the money. There is not 1 long time veteran in game that will not say how bad the game has become compared to how glorious it use to be.

    ANy new player that comes on the servers for the first time and asks if PWI is really "Free to Play", the reply is: "Only if you want to chase mobs around. Even then without spending a whole bunch of cash there are very few mobs that you'll be able to handle." The result is that they leave. Heck, even on these forums when folk who left are thinking about coming back and ask here: "Is it worth it?" They reply they hear most often is "NO!".

    At one time you could farm for a year or two, trade coin for gold and get geared, now, it's nearly impossible. No Cash = No Upgrading. It's as simple as that. Pick a server, you'll find that the player population is less than 1/2 of what it use to be and PWI has never stopped to ask anyone "WHY?". Ever see that question being used in the Maintenance thread? Instead, they ask "What's your favourite colour and why?"
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    Sorry, but you folks claiming 50 gold are wrong. It's 75.

    http://pwi.perfectworld.com/news/?p=58031 (scroll down in the comments)
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=9993292
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=10349942&postcount=1
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=5542402&postcount=13


    I could paste more links but you get the picture. 75 gold, whether we like it or not, is the natural price of an Ocean orb. Any time it's sold below that, it's being given a price reduction.
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  • Lolgasmic - Raging Tide
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide Posts: 1,315 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    OPKossy wrote: »
    Sorry, but you folks claiming 50 gold are wrong. It's 75.

    http://pwi.perfectworld.com/news/?p=58031 (scroll down in the comments)
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=9993292
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=10349942&postcount=1
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=5542402&postcount=13


    I could paste more links but you get the picture. 75 gold, whether we like it or not, is the natural price of an Ocean orb. Any time it's sold below that, it's being given a price reduction.

    That doesn't make sense, then why have the Oceans always said 50 gold normally? I can't prove this of course, because why the hell would I SS the botique? ._.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »
    That doesn't make sense, then why have the Oceans always said 50 gold normally? I can't prove this of course, because why the hell would I SS the botique? ._.

    The entire point is that they didn't always say 50 gold normally. In fact, this one shows them being accurately labeled as sold at a 33% discount.. and when you scroll through the comments you see the usual "Why would I pay 50 gold for this" type of stuff. Heck, there are even mentions of wanting a 75% discount price so it'd be 25 gold per... which wouldn't even be close to the case if the actual price of an ocean was 50 gold.

    Like I said, anything below 75 gold, whether we like it or not, is a price reduction.
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  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    nothing like good old false advertisement
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  • Chazira - Heavens Tear
    Chazira - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Even IF it is correctly advertised, that still doesn't change the fact that they used to be in the boutique either for 50 gold or 25 gold (or 5 for 100 gold at rare occasions). Why the price increase in the last few months? Did PWI just get greedy?
  • DaSquirrel - Sanctuary
    DaSquirrel - Sanctuary Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Chazira - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Even IF it is correctly advertised, that still doesn't change the fact that they used to be in the boutique either for 50 gold or 25 gold (or 5 for 100 gold at rare occasions). Why the price increase in the last few months? Did PWI just get greedy?


    Yes they are greedy and their maths are crud
  • Bryanshrimp - Lost City
    Bryanshrimp - Lost City Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    God I would hate to see your qq over increase in price of gas or milk.
  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Bryanshrimp - Lost City wrote: »
    God I would hate to see your qq over increase in price of gas or milk.

    It is already risen by a lot, at least here, well everything tends to get more expensive, not drastically, even the fkers responsible for this know not to increase the prices by a lot in 1 go, they do it slowly, but if you look back and compare to today`s prices and pathetic salaries, ** it is insane, a few rich mofos and a whole lot of poor simple people.
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  • Gnip - Raging Tide
    Gnip - Raging Tide Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I wonder with gold prices reaching or exceeding 3m on most servers. Does that help the zhen charges? I'm sure initially they get a nice bump, but in the long term, it really isn't sustainable without a flood of new players. Just gotta wonder what their long term goals are. besides the obvious plan of leeching as much money from the customer base before this game becomes obsolete.
  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    the gold price increases could be just forthought on the possibility that a lot of cash shoppers are leaving the game. Just a thought no real evidence to support that. Was thinking of that today
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