New Horizons PvP balance

i personally dont agree with the wizard nerf...

i mean every class has its role, wizard role was to aoe nuke (limited to mass pvp scenarios) or single target burst

if you take away the single target burst wiz class has almost nothing...

call me a noob, not knowing my class w.e., but nowadays you cant kill sht (bypass) with frostflames, sandfalls or w.e.

we do have high res, that was required to sustain our channelling\cast times
but wizard is one of the few classes that suffers the fact to always get purged w\o chance to purge back or to rebuff\damage reduce, therefore leading the wiz to fight with self buff res values against his full buffed target

anyway about psys, its about time that soul of vengeance and soul of silence should really be self buffs.
i found myself fighting an equal geared seeker with endgame psy buffs, and its like fighting 2 classes in one = almost unkillable

@Euzebe: try eruption fist, elemental weakness

and anyways psys and wizards have almost identical magic damage output, cause at endgame its all about the base magic damage (and not the skill damage itself)

f.e.: my stone rain has same damage output as my sandstorm and as your landslide

(at endgame psys and wizard has both around 40k base mag damage therefore:

sandstorm damage = 40000 + 300% + 6000
stone rain = 40000 + 200% + 4800

landslide = 40000 + 100% + 5041
sandburst = 40000 + 200% + 4000

lets check nukes:

bid: 40000 + 500% + 13955
stone smasher: 40000 + 400% + 10253

the single skill damage output of wizard and psy is identical)


point is psy can dps that damage, wizard cant.
cause psy skills have chan+cast time of 1-2 seconds and our skills having cast time of 3-5 secs

Dragslave - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Way to kill a sin as a wizard:
Kite him till tidal is off, while poking with dot's and **** to tick deaden, when tidal off, 2 shot him with.... anything

But i do agree wizards need a boost on spark or undine, only reason wizards can hit hard is because of that debuffs, so either improve them, or give us a +30 att level buff, if seekers can have the def one, why cant we have an att one XD

i would be ok with casting time\ channelling time significant cuts, they took away from us the ability to dph efficiently, they should at least give us chance to dps now

anyway i didnt want this thread to become a wiz vs sin thread

so i'd like to hear more opinions from other class users aswell

(@Dragslave: 2 shot an endgame sin? if you 2shot him means he has a heavy gear disadvantage, also when tidal is down they will most likely kite you\stealth you\apothecary-genie)

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

If it's not game breaking then give every physical damage class an armor break. You can use genie to counter.

i believe that demon venos and high str mires or devour have almost the same spark utility

@ canta: i wont waste half of my genie energy for a 33% chance to land a debuff that its not "substantial" as it was before and also can be easily countered afterwards

@ euze: then they should boost our dph giving us like 150% base mag damage or smt skills

DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Actually since undine is so spammable you can catch a sin off gaurd if you actually try. Remember sins have good chi maintenece, NOT infinate chi. Eventually they are going to slip up. You just have to increase your chances of that happening, much like a sin vs another sin. Force your opponent to make mistakes, and make them pay.

One example is i normally fight a mystic on my server that uses an absorb soul combo. It can 1 shot me, but...not if i use ToP. Eventually he noticed the timing and forced me to blow my genie early by holding his absorb soul for a few seconds more. He did not get the max damage, however he was able to kill me this time by tricking me into using my resources early.

endgame mystics have one hell of mag dps in my opinion they can seriously burst people down better than how wizards can do atm

you right about spammability of undine, but that debuff is nerfed as all debuffs are..
(24,60% real redux instead of 60%)
also you can manage chi heavy CCing the target, gaining time for chi skills cooldowns to come up

also i forgot to reply to who said that we got more chi - more crit
those shields are really not viable in pvp, if you wear them @ endgame pvp the wiz will be dead in matter of seconds (except if arcane vs arcane, but at that point the fight is always kind of endless)