Most potential/underated of each class

SonH - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I really haven't noticed anyone who I would considered underrated except, as Aeliah had already mentioned, Philco.

To Slivaf, what exactly would a BM needs to do to "impress" you? PvE wise, I don't ever consider PvE as a criteria to define someone as "worthy." PvE is simply too easy, mobs and bosses are predictable, you just follow the same routine and it's done. Sure there's the argument that better gears make PvE easier, but as I stated above, everything is still predictable in PvE. So once again, what are you looking for? BMs who HF on time with spark? To bell immediately when squad is purged?

To DarkSkiesx, while I agree that X_Drac_X is underrated when it comes to PvP in terms of 1v1, he's ineffective in mass PvP. If you want specifics, I'll be glad to provide you with such. But that is the reason why his name doesn't make it to these lists.

:$ Yet so many barbs/bm completely and utterly fail at pulling/doing what they should be doing in squads.

Impress was indeed the wrong word to use. (this is indeed a potential list, there are a few bms that I am... in "love" with that has already made those lists on NUMEROUS occasions, and the fact that this is a potential list... I couldn't put them on there.)

Still I would like to see a bm do what I did in '****' gear (the bm... as in no higher than tt99+5 maybe one piece fo nirvy +5 gear) as well the squad, and pull off what I did back in the days of aura delta, hell I was even pulling lunar better than most barbs, and as far as bms most don't even begin to try. While you are correct it is about timing, etc in pve, there is still a lot of 'fail' people that do not do things the way... they... arguably should. If pve was as simple as you seem to be making it out, there would be way less fails out there, at least that is my opinion. (sadly those days (of "crapish" gear) are gone, as I said before it is hard for me to get 'impressed'/like (with) what others are doing these days when their gear just completely has the potential to compensate for their stupid mistake(s).) (edit) For example using magic marrow to pull in mobs safely, maybe coupled with an alpha male, not limiting themselves to 1, 2 or even 3 weapons, a real good bm like aelicia for example uses all of their weapons, even if some fo the skills are highly situational, a bm that doesn't have the option to reliably cancel skills/throw an hf/gs on a phys immune mob/boss is NOT a good bm... in 'my' book, pve or pvp. (pvp may very well be debatable as it can be ab it hard to justify switching weapons all the time, especially when axes are clearly the best choice for a bm in pvp.)... (now I am not saying bms who limit themsleves to one path is completely fail, but they limit themselves way entirely too much for me to really consider them good.) OH! Not to mention how few bms use skills on the anti melee(aps) bosses. Though as I said since aelicia is often on the best of list, I can't put her on this potential list. :$

While skill in pve obviously doesn't show skill for pvp, there are some things that can be applied from pve towards pvp. (I.e magic marrow on the magical based mobs to make a pull easier/more successful. How about invoking on a barb to avoid a death due to a purge from certain bosses, or when they go 'hysterical?) My point? Is that pve does take a bit of skill, whether people like to admit it or not... and aye these are just 2 examples, I do know a lot of barbs seemed to completely fail to invoke to prevent themselves from dying and a ripple effect into a full squad wipe.

Aye I realize some of the 'fails' in pve may just in fact be bored with what goes on in pve, but it doesn't keep people from feeling they are complete failures at their class, regardless of their class. (Edit) The sad truth of the matter is that I hear a LOT of complaints about people failing at their class, be it bm's, barbs, or any other class. (Bm's the most)