First Mystic FC Run

Domethies - Raging Tide
Domethies - Raging Tide Posts: 214 Arc User
edited March 2014 in Mystic
Okay so i did my first fc run as a mystic today and recorded it and stuck it on youtube. Now i was wondering if you guys could take a look and give me some pointers, where i went wrong, what i could do to improve etc etc. video is here
thanks in advance, and be nice b:laugh

ps, i had crappy music playing so you might want to mute the video cause it got sped it when i sped the video up b:laugh
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  • MissCherie - Harshlands
    MissCherie - Harshlands Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    That say the video is private, so I can't watch it. b:chuckle
  • Domethies - Raging Tide
    Domethies - Raging Tide Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    MissCherie - Harshlands wrote: »
    That say the video is private, so I can't watch it. b:chuckle

    hmm i didnt set it to private ill go check b:laugh

    Edit: Okay for some reason it was on private, changed to unlisted, can you view it now?
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  • MissCherie - Harshlands
    MissCherie - Harshlands Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Yes I was able to watch it now.

    I didn't watch the whole video, I did skip some part.

    Mainly my advices would be:

    -You don't need to be right next to the person you want to heal, at the start of the video when there's no cleric I see you run right next to the person before you heal, our heals have a long range there's no need to run to the person that just waste time.

    -That one will go a bot with the previous one, when you are main healer (specially that you are a range DD) try to stay away from the mobs, if something turn wrong and all the squad die in the mobs including you then when you gonna rezz you will probably end up dying again since you will be in the mobs.

    -Also I see you try to cast comforting mist a lot and you need a few times to be able to get it cause it's a long channeling skill, use falling petals and BitC (Break in the cloud), it's not AOE, but it's faster and will be more fast.

    -Use more falling petals, it's a really nice healing skill.

    -I saw you use devil, I'm not lvl80 since a log time, but almost sure that even at lv80 mistress deal more damage, mainly devil should be use in pvp for the stun or when you fight someone that is elemental immune.

    -Also crapplord is a waste of spark. If you have 2 sparks than spark and DD, maybe right now crapplord do more damage, but soon enough when you will get decent gears/weap you will do more damage, so it's a good habit to take now to spark beside cast crapplord.

    -Never use Befuddling Creeper when there's a barb/veno in squad (or cleric that debuff), Befuddling Creeper have the lowest debuff of all class, so unless there's no other class that can debuff, do not use it. Use Spidervine. (That's for bosses, later on in GV/Delta/RB you can use Befuddling Creeper for the waves of mobs)

    -For the heads use mistress, you guys did miss heads that could have get kill if you had mistress up (mistress is like having 1 more player that doesn't steal exp =P), I personally put her on manual and when heads appear I tab/nv and tab/send mistress (on AOE or single attack depend on the amount of heads that spawn) then tab/nv again, usually I'm able to get 2 heads with nv. So usually I'm able to get at least 3 heads with mistress and me and + if Punishing Sting get one.
  • Domethies - Raging Tide
    Domethies - Raging Tide Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    MissCherie - Harshlands wrote: »
    Yes I was able to watch it now.

    I didn't watch the whole video, I did skip some part.

    Mainly my advices would be:

    -You don't need to be right next to the person you want to heal, at the start of the video when there's no cleric I see you run right next to the person before you heal, our heals have a long range there's no need to run to the person that just waste time.

    -That one will go a bot with the previous one, when you are main healer (specially that you are a range DD) try to stay away from the mobs, if something turn wrong and all the squad die in the mobs including you then when you gonna rezz you will probably end up dying again since you will be in the mobs.

    -Also I see you try to cast comforting mist a lot and you need a few times to be able to get it cause it's a long channeling skill, use falling petals and BitC (Break in the cloud), it's not AOE, but it's faster and will be more fast.

    -Use more falling petals, it's a really nice healing skill.

    -I saw you use devil, I'm not lvl80 since a log time, but almost sure that even at lv80 mistress deal more damage, mainly devil should be use in pvp for the stun or when you fight someone that is elemental immune.

    -Also crapplord is a waste of spark. If you have 2 sparks than spark and DD, maybe right now crapplord do more damage, but soon enough when you will get decent gears/weap you will do more damage, so it's a good habit to take now to spark beside cast crapplord.

    -Never use Befuddling Creeper when there's a barb/veno in squad (or cleric that debuff), Befuddling Creeper have the lowest debuff of all class, so unless there's no other class that can debuff, do not use it. Use Spidervine. (That's for bosses, later on in GV/Delta/RB you can use Befuddling Creeper for the waves of mobs)

    -For the heads use mistress, you guys did miss heads that could have get kill if you had mistress up (mistress is like having 1 more player that doesn't steal exp =P), I personally put her on manual and when heads appear I tab/nv and tab/send mistress (on AOE or single attack depend on the amount of heads that spawn) then tab/nv again, usually I'm able to get 2 heads with nv. So usually I'm able to get at least 3 heads with mistress and me and + if Punishing Sting get one.

    Yeah i didnt expect people to watch it all, but you would know where the main parts are roughly and skip to them i was standing close to people to make sure that healing herb was in range for them as its less healing for me to do. ty for the comments i will take what you have said on board b:thanks,
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  • Brillance - Raging Tide
    Brillance - Raging Tide Posts: 1,643 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I watched the part where you used your Healing Herb, since you said thats why you got close.

    Ive always played front line, so I always stood with the barb or whoever was holding the agro most. I learned this when I first starting playing because I used to be able to pull aggro off anyone my level , and standing with the tank meant it wouldn't travel far.

    In a squad, all you basicly have to do to lose aggro is nothing. Someone else will then attract it. Standing with the tank meant it wouldnt travel far if I did start to pull it.

    I always liked to DD. And, I always placed my Vital Herb down and spot healed and buffed until I could see that the squad was staying alive long enough for me to join in on the DD.

    Your Vital Herb is your best healing plant. Your Vital Herb with your Healing Herb forms a fake BB. Healing Herb can be enough, but if you really want to DD then its better to be safe than sorry, so, if you can, you might want to use Vital more often.

    If you continue with using your Craglord, you need to be able to regain sparks easily. There's Master Li's technique to help rebuild it quickly along with your general spell usage. I will note here that although I totally love my Craggy - he was the last pet I leveled and learned how to use. Spirit is a big hold back on leveling spells and your DD and heals are a priority.

    I hope you are Sage, but only because of Master Li's Technique, and the fact that your Craggy will last 15 seconds longer once you have the Sage Skill.

    I also have a level 6 Cloud Eruption on my genie, and God's Tea so if I need to start from scratch, I can have 3 sparks pretty quickly. Why 3? 1 for Vital Herb if I need it, and 2 for Craggy.

    The vid was good, you played pretty good. Miss Cherie makes some great points I wont bother to repeat. Overall, it looks like you had fun, and thats what matters most. b:pleased

    EDIT: One time to NEVER stand close is on a boss like Pole, with a lot of AoEs. Most of us are a 1-shot at the proper level to have BH69.

    Your Healing Herb can be very helpful in FC when Runewolf starts his "mighty...powerful..." speech.

    Put it behind the tank, take a shot (Nature's Vengance or Swirling Mist) at him just before everyone runs, and try to Holy Path in a straight line away from him. The point is not to get or hold his aggro, so try not to be last to hit him. The reason for taking the shot at him is to make Healing Herb attack him.

    Forget about the sin who's over out of range of heals - the dude wants to die, kai? lol.

    Anyway, most times you will get real lucky, and your Healing Herb - who should be now attacking Runewolf - will maybe take the aggro for you, and possibly the whole squad. If it works, all your squadmates will stand there in amazement for a bit. If it doesnt, no harm no foul. The squad should be reacting the same as if a Mystic wasnt with them. Its not 100% to help at all, but its worth the couple of seconds it takes to set up.
  • MissCherie - Harshlands
    MissCherie - Harshlands Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »


    I hope you are Sage

    He's lvl 80, he can't be sage or demon yet.
  • Domethies - Raging Tide
    Domethies - Raging Tide Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    MissCherie - Harshlands wrote: »
    He's lvl 80, he can't be sage or demon yet.

    well 81 at the end of the video b:laugh sage/demon wasnt somthing i was going to look into untill prehaps next week when i get that high, i play my barb more often and so lvling takes time on my mystic. some people have suggest demon so i can get hf from thicket others have said sage for more attack and better heals so i really cant decide between the two b:laugh
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  • MissCherie - Harshlands
    MissCherie - Harshlands Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Domethies - Raging Tide wrote: »
    well 81 at the end of the video b:laugh sage/demon wasnt somthing i was going to look into untill prehaps next week when i get that high, i play my barb more often and so lvling takes time on my mystic. some people have suggest demon so i can get hf from thicket others have said sage for more attack and better heals so i really cant decide between the two b:laugh

    Both cultivations are good for mystics, I suggest you to check on Ecatomb and chose what seems to suit you better. =)
  • Domethies - Raging Tide
    Domethies - Raging Tide Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »


    Your Vital Herb is your best healing plant. Your Vital Herb with your Healing Herb forms a fake BB. Healing Herb can be enough, but if you really want to DD then its better to be safe than sorry, so, if you can, you might want to use Vital more often.

    b:surprised wow i only just noticed you can use both healing plants at once b:laugh im such a nub mystic i swear.
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  • MissCherie - Harshlands
    MissCherie - Harshlands Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Domethies - Raging Tide wrote: »
    b:surprised wow i only just noticed you can use both healing plants at once b:laugh im such a nub mystic i swear.

    Vital Herb can be use we all the other plants. =)
  • mrcharlytoo
    mrcharlytoo Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I haven't watched your vid, will take a look at it when I get home.

    At the lower levels (below 90), your pets do much more damage on ? bosses than you do. Thicket does really decent damage. I'd recommend using mistress and thicket on these bosses, with spidervine.

    Swirling mist doesn't really attract aggro, so drop it frequently on bosses and harpies.

    Falling petals needs to be kept up on all members of the squad, but don't cast it on pullers *after* they've started the pull, you'll just grab aggro and die instantly. Use salvation's shield and Falling petals on the pullers, cast *before* they start the pull.
  • Brillance - Raging Tide
    Brillance - Raging Tide Posts: 1,643 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Domethies - Raging Tide wrote: »
    well 81 at the end of the video b:laugh sage/demon wasnt somthing i was going to look into untill prehaps next week when i get that high, i play my barb more often and so lvling takes time on my mystic. some people have suggest demon so i can get hf from thicket others have said sage for more attack and better heals so i really cant decide between the two b:laugh

    Overall, it really doesnt matter which culti you choose. Different builds and play-styles.

    I used to play with a friend whose main was a barb. He then made a cleric, and used to run out in front on his little cleric when we were doing something together, just like he was still a barb. He played a barb for a long time before the cleric, and I guess old habits are hard to break till you get used to the new char.     b:chuckle
  • HolyMyst - Harshlands
    HolyMyst - Harshlands Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I just happen to see this post when I got to work so wont be able to watch it till I get home, but MissCherie gives very good advice and is someone that I truly admire so your in good hands if you listen to her b:pleased, just to add my 2 cents in as well, if you haven't got Salvation yet, when you do level her and use her, she can improve your support role even more by putting shields on the main puller or whoever is pulling aggro and the beautiful part of it that salvation's shields and falling petals go hand in hand, when you place both on someone the shields will take damage and the falling petals wont activate right away since the person is not taking damage directly and once the shield is gone falling petals will start doing its healing. I started to clean the halls of fc recently and I do this before I run in Befuddling+Lysing +spark + GF, im only lvl 94 non rb and it will make you sponge hits and the shield also increase you defense by 5% when it is up also.
  • Eryialne - Raging Tide
    Eryialne - Raging Tide Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    As a self-proclaimed Mystic master, I wanted to add my two cents:

    MissCherie, Cragglord is NOT a crapplord. He was my BEST DD option on level ? bosses, bar none, until I got high refines on my T3 wand. What Mystics forget to do is level Cragglord past level 1 b:laugh he may not be great at level 1, but he is AMAZING at level 10.

    Someone made a comment about Storm Mistress being better around level 80? In my experience, that could be true, but the trouble of keeping her chi full was too much for me. Devil has very consistent, fast damage, and doesn't need maintenance. Now that I'm past 100, sure Storm is better, but I have much more mana room to keep her chi up.

    Another person made a comment about Thicket being a good damage. No. Sorry, it's not. It is only going to be useful as a control skill. Seal and Freeze are what Thicket does, not damage. Yeah, it looks nice and high, but for two sparks you can do better.

    On Befuddling Creeper, it can also be useful if your Barbarian or Assassin squad-mate uh..doesn't debuff. That will happen. A lot. Feel free to use Befuddling if they're not debuffing.

    Otherwise, YES, do not overwrite their debuffs b:cute I actually was in Flowsilver the other day with a fellow Mystic who was using Befuddling on the bosses. I was sure to kindly explain the problems with such, as we had both a barb and assassin doing their debuffs religiously.

    The other comments people made were pretty awesome! Listen to them.

    If you want my input on Sage/Demon, both are equally awesome. It depends on your play-style completely. I chose Demon, because I wanted the extra Channeling speed from spark, 100% hp Resurrect, 13 Meter Bramble Tornado, Wood Resistance reduction Swirling Mist, 5 Minute duration Falling Petals, Extra Chi BiTC, etc. It fit my playstyle more

    And no, you are not "such a nub mystic". Honestly, you're already doing leagues better than most b:shocked Make us proud!

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