WHY DiD U DISABLE EGYPT'S REGION ??

_DeMoN_CrY_ - Heavens Tear
_DeMoN_CrY_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
edited February 2014 in General Discussion
i'm very disappointed that you disabled Egypt's region. why did u do that for?? at least explain why?? many of us used to recharge you zen ye know. why?? b:angry b:angry b:angry
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited January 2014
    This... was done years ago for various reasons.

    I don't really see what the big deal is in this day and age. o.o
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  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited January 2014
    Hey guys,

    So the deal here is that, as was mentioned before, due to a huge amount of fraudulent activity stemming from them, Egyptian IPs have been blocked from accessing PWE games as well as the websites. This move was made to protect existing player accounts, as we've seen an uptick in **** cases in recent months.

    However, we're currently enacting a plan to allow access to Egyptian IP accounts that have been legitimate up to this point. So if you're playing PWI from an Egyptian IP, and you've not been flagged as having participated in any illegal activity, you should re-gain access to the game and website shortly.

    These accounts should regain access within a few days, so to these players we apologize for the inconvenience, and our engineers are working as quickly as they can to get everything set up so that you can get back into the game.

    One final note -- after this point, IPs from Egypt will no longer be able to create new accounts, so only those legit Egyptian accounts that already exist will be able to log in to the game and site in the future.


    Thanks!

    This post was made back in 2012. http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1388661&highlight=Egypt&page=6

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  • Poopinpanto - Heavens Tear
    Poopinpanto - Heavens Tear Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    shouldn't you be out rioting?b:bye
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    maybe its egypt government side and not pwi? ;o
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  • Wazwaz - Sanctuary
    Wazwaz - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    i know few ppl from egypt playing :O
  • Naughtymaz - Dreamweaver
    Naughtymaz - Dreamweaver Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    people should be smart and just hide stuff, tor browser, maybe some other "stuff"b:chuckle
  • Asurzzo - Lost City
    Asurzzo - Lost City Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    people should be smart and just hide stuff, tor browser, maybe some other "stuff"b:chuckle

    And in response you will get Insta banned for Proxy Server from Ip Spoofing
  • Asurzzo - Lost City
    Asurzzo - Lost City Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    i know few ppl from egypt playing :O

    if you would have read above: It CLEARLY states that people that already have had accounts in "GOOD" standing are allowed access again, Those that DO NOT have accounts made already and/or are in "BAD" standing are therefor banned/ Not allowed access.
  • Wazwaz - Sanctuary
    Wazwaz - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    if you would have read above: It CLEARLY states that people that already have had accounts in "GOOD" standing are allowed access again, Those that DO NOT have accounts made already and/or are in "BAD" standing are therefor banned/ Not allowed access.

    w/e idc
  • freygin
    freygin Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    They should explain the reasons, who knows more country could be banned in the future and wastes a lot of people 's time and money spent.

    Mostly, local server prohibits international players, but I don't think international server would do that, like international server published by cubizone in Malaysia back in the day, they did not ban international players and confirmed that they wouldn't ban international players even if later they have their own local pw server
  • Breannak - Raging Tide
    Breannak - Raging Tide Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I think PWI needs a name change because this ain't a completely international game.
  • Crixxix - Raging Tide
    Crixxix - Raging Tide Posts: 848 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    people should be smart and just hide stuff, tor browser, maybe some other "stuff"b:chuckle
    And in response you will get Insta banned for Proxy Server from Ip Spoofing
    I'm sure there's a lot of people who do play this way. I'm just speculating, but it is possible to do, without getting caught. With the way communist countries are, there's a lot of people there that know how to do these things, just to get around blocks imposed by government. Look at China, people there use proxies on a daily basis.
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  • MissCherie - Harshlands
    MissCherie - Harshlands Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    freygin wrote: »
    They should explain the reasons, who knows more country could be banned in the future and wastes a lot of people 's time and money spent.

    Mostly, local server prohibits international players, but I don't think international server would do that, like international server published by cubizone in Malaysia back in the day, they did not ban international players and confirmed that they wouldn't ban international players even if later they have their own local pw server

    They did explain why.
    I think PWI needs a name change because this ain't a completely international game.

    And people should maybe learn the meaning of the word international, before saying that game is not international.
  • Noxioua - Lost City
    Noxioua - Lost City Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    freygin wrote: »
    They should explain the reasons, who knows more country could be banned in the future and wastes a lot of people 's time and money spent.

    Mostly, local server prohibits international players, but I don't think international server would do that, like international server published by cubizone in Malaysia back in the day, they did not ban international players and confirmed that they wouldn't ban international players even if later they have their own local pw server

    More countries have already been blocked access. Most countries blocked from PWI, have their own nationalised version. So these countries are Vietnam, Malaysia, Russia and Korea just to name a few. I'm not sure if China can access our version but I know that we can't access theres with a citizenship number (I think that's going a little far but hey, it's China). Japan is only not allowed access to our version of Rusty Hearts, don't know why it's only RH but eh.

    Keep in mind that PWE has to obey whatever their licensing agreement states. If Wanmei (PW Beijing [Mother company]) states that those countries can't access other versions of the game, then PWE has to comply. Egypt has blocked due to malicious attacks against the system and players. Others were blocked because they have their own game. It all comes down to licensing, laws, etc. Nothing anyone can do about it.

    In terms of Asia, we are the International population. The English speaking nations are known as the "Internationals." Don't ask my why, it's just how the major asian nations group things. We are Perfect World International because we are the English version of the game. We have the higher diversity of countries using this version, because English is the world's dominant language. However, when other official language versions started being released, the licensing conditions changed. We can't access most of the other PW games, and they can't access ours. Unfair that Japan can play our PW, but we can't play theirs :/.
  • freygin
    freygin Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    @Noxioua : thanks for the information, I wasn't around when the block to egypt happened so I wonder why, that should explain why egypt is blocked then. About PW CN, there is garena I think we can join their server from there, but it would be difficult due to language barrier.


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    Wouldn't you suffer high ping if playing an online game using proxy ?

    Dunno how fast response time in most countries to other countries these days, but it's not comfortable playing with high ping for sure, above 500ms I think it's already noticeable and doing anything is a bit delayed.
  • Noxioua - Lost City
    Noxioua - Lost City Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    freygin wrote: »
    @Noxioua : thanks for the information, I wasn't around when the block to egypt happened so I wonder why, that should explain why egypt is blocked then. About PW CN, there is garena I think we can join their server from there, but it would be difficult due language barrier and


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    Wouldn't you suffer high ping if playing an online game using proxy ?

    Dunno how fast response time in most countries to other countries these days, but it's not comfortable playing with high ping for sure, above 500ms I think it's already noticeable and doing anything is a bit delayed.

    Being in Australia, my ping is never lower than 230ms to Lost City. It can get as high as 350 and then it goes from smooth to ok (green to yellow). I opened PWI once using a proxy changer (I was watching Logo TV at the time so had to have a US IP). I got DC'd about 3 hours in and was met with an automatic proxy ban trying to log in. So I'm not sure the whole proxy thing is going to work well for others.

    And with China, I know that used to be the case, but I've been reading that they require your CN citizenship number now for registration or something. So that's gonna be hard to fake xD
  • freygin
    freygin Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I see, when I was playing in PWI I got like 800-1000+ms , that's why I quitted and decided to continue playing local server. It's better now but still at 500ms and not quite ok, while playing in local I can get like 70-350ms.
  • Noxioua - Lost City
    Noxioua - Lost City Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    freygin wrote: »
    I see, when I was playing in PWI I got like 800-1000+ms , that's why I quitted and decided to continue playing local server. It's better now but still at 500ms and not quite ok, while playing in local I can get like 70-350ms.

    That's mainly due to how strong of an internet connection we have on our side, and how far away we are from the servers on the company's side. Most US residents get a ping of like 20and I'm like "it's not fair QQ"
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited February 2014
    In terms of Asia, we are the International population. The English speaking nations are known as the "Internationals." Don't ask my why, it's just how the major asian nations group things.

    Because to them westerners are the foreign people across international boundaries.

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  • Noxioua - Lost City
    Noxioua - Lost City Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Because to them westerners are the foreign people across international boundaries.

    Thank you Venus for explaining that. I'm glad someone here knows why. They never told me exactly why when I lived in Seoul.
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited February 2014
    Thank you Venus for explaining that. I'm glad someone here knows why. They never told me exactly why when I lived in Seoul.

    My classmates and I in Japanese class were routinely referred to as foreigners by this Japanese kid in my Japanese class, even though he was here in the USA. Was kind of funny but it makes sense. We're the ones learning his language, after all.

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  • Noxioua - Lost City
    Noxioua - Lost City Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    My classmates and I in Japanese class were routinely referred to as foreigners by this Japanese kid in my Japanese class, even though he was here in the USA. Was kind of funny but it makes sense. We're the ones learning his language, after all.

    The part I never got my head around is why no one in South Korea referred to China, North K, or Japan as foreigners even though there are different languages there. I guess it's more of a cultural thing in Asia as to who is a foreigner and who isn't.
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited February 2014
    The part I never got my head around is why no one in South Korea referred to China, North K, or Japan as foreigners even though there are different languages there. I guess it's more of a cultural thing in Asia as to who is a foreigner and who isn't.

    Well that's veering a bit away from what I can talk about there but it does relate a lot to the power structure of various cultures, their geographical proximity, and their larger historical narrative in the world. For example, many cultures have their own identities but also identify with people in a larger group. For example, Latinos in the United States consider themselves as a group while at the same time acknowledging that there are very big differences not only in the types of Spanish spoken (or if Spanish is spoken at all, some of their families come from Latin American countries that speak predominantly Portugese) and celebrate their own individual heritage. This is because of various power structures and historical differences, and has become ingrained in the culture. To the point that a lot of people just are accustomed to it and don't even think twice about it. China, Korea, and Japan have had a long history of interacting with one another. For example Japan borrowed some of it's writing system from China. It's a fascinating and complicated issue, that is really interesting to read and study about. ^^ And that's probably more than I should say here already, so I'll digress.

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  • Lolgasmic - Raging Tide
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide Posts: 1,315 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I think PWI needs a name change because this ain't a completely international game.

    Perfect World: America

    Perfect World: 'MURICA

    Perfect World: North and South America with a little Australia

    Perfect World: Most of the stuff not labeled under "Asia". Except Russia. We love our crazy Russians.
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This is the biggest positive thing PWI ever made, there was 1 post about similar issues a while back and I will only repeat myself, those who played Conquer Online will also strongly support PWI`s decision, I`m thankful we don`t have many Egyptians, all games they infest become unplayable, that is all!
  • Lolgasmic - Raging Tide
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide Posts: 1,315 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This is the biggest positive thing PWI ever made, there was 1 post about similar issues a while back and I will only repeat myself, those who played Conquer Online will also strongly support PWI`s decision, I`m thankful we don`t have many Egyptians, all games they infest become unplayable, that is all!

    Like the first half was ok, but then you managed to get all racist lolb:shutup
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Like the first half was ok, but then you managed to get all racist lolb:shutup

    You haven`t met them in massive numbers apparently, be happy about it. b:chuckle
  • Breannak - Raging Tide
    Breannak - Raging Tide Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Perfect World: America

    Perfect World: 'MURICA

    Perfect World: North and South America with a little Australia

    Perfect World: Most of the stuff not labeled under "Asia". Except Russia. We love our crazy Russians.

    b:thanks

    Perfect World: Africa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    @Reply back to 1st post in detail for some people.
    I do find it a little unfair that whole Egypt region is IP blocked I lost some good friends because of it.
    Shame some have to hid using proxy's to log on too. :/ Or find another game to play, and small loss of money too.
  • er7amony
    er7amony Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This is the biggest positive thing PWI ever made, there was 1 post about similar issues a while back and I will only repeat myself, those who played Conquer Online will also strongly support PWI`s decision, I`m thankful we don`t have many Egyptians, all games they infest become unplayable, that is all!

    that's insulting ...... ijs
    and btw i have meet botter and hacker in pwi from all aroud thr world ,so should pwi block the world ??? b:question b:shutup