Reborn players mixed with normal in an FC squad. A nerf? Clarification?

I haven't noticed any nerf at all with the mixed squads i've been in, I might be oblivious to it though

Sounds like a rumor only.

I'm fairly sure a lot people want reborn players because they can wear their lvl100 gears and make the run go faster.

However, it's also true that reborn people gain EXP much faster (4x or 3.5x depending on reawakening) and have the potential to out-level the original range really fast causing an EXP nerf to the squad.

I think both cases are nitpicking but I don't blame people for either. I make my own squad if I have issues while there are players capable of soloing their own FCCs because of their gear/class.

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

^this.

Even though it's rediculous to see world chats asking for "FC90-98 looking for REBORNS only".

I mean... you don't need anything incredible to do FC... this is what makes the player base so horrid, next thing you know they'll be asking for R9rr +10~12 only for it.

Why someone reborn wanna squad unless they got crappy gear is beyond me, even a decent normal lvl 90 sin can solo a fc..

Reborn only BH 100 coming to your neighborhood soon!

since no-one gave a definite answer yet:

No, it doesn't nerf at all.
People spread that rumour probably to avoid non-reborn people that still have no clue about FC. F.e. that you shouldn't activate heads right as the boss dies instead of after the mobs.

MyMate - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Why someone reborn wanna squad unless they got crappy gear is beyond me, even a decent normal lvl 90 sin can solo a fc..

Being in a squad makes it less boring. If you need more xp, just do it twice.

CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »

I still get a laugh at the r999 players who need another person to glitch the second boss for them.

Someone asked for a weapon link the other day on WC in Sanc... And he made the good ol' excuse "because I don't wanna carry nobody on my back"...

Seriously, these people make it look like as if somebody undergeared would just put their toons to follow somebody else in the squad and wouldn't do anything to contribute with the run... I know some undergeared people out there on Sanc that know their sheet better than a great part of the R999ners out there...

Some people in this game aren't worthy of the gear they wear.

SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

to the OP,guess your gonna be left behind,and to the rest...since I can solo FF since like 7)+ on my sin reincarnate I really don't need no one I only take a friend or two if they need a full run YES a FULL run you get a hell of good exp on FULL run so you all stop being NOOBS and do FULL runs.But as for just reincarnate yeah I rather have a full squad of fast going reincarnate because we are trying to get back to 100+ again and rinse and repeat,we don't need no one that's gonan be hitting mobs at 3k when we can hit them at 10k++++++ lol

Yeah, go ahead and hit 100 back as quickly as you can, then complain that the game is boring, that you don't have anything else to do, etc...

You people make me laugh, like badly... b:pleased

Forming a full squad of 90-98 reawakened characters is overkill, unless the toons are so undergeared that they need to do this for it to be a fast enough run, in which case even if I was the non-reawakened toon I would say gtfo to these reawakened nabs.

I don't agree with this mentality as it's not fair or nice to non-reawakened people, but I can understand how it has formed.

Reawakening especially is not about slowly questing your way back up to 100 over a period of weeks enjoying the wild terrain the world map has to offer. Let's be realistic here.

<100 you are missing out on the primal dailies that give primordial bloods x2, you are missing out on the Flowsilver Palace instance that gives a free A-C war avatar pack a day.

So if you are competitive in any PvP situation, be it in a TW faction or PK/NW etc. You will be lagging behind in getting your new passive skills, your reawakened skills (through a lack of bloods) your spirit (new pvp multiplier) will be low through a lack of lvling your arcane sky or obtaining war avatar cards.

So there are massive incentives and an urgency in rushing back to 100 twice over to continue farming the new stuff that has come out with this expansion to stay on the competitive side of things. Also to max out historic lvls asap to cash in on all the bonus stat points. The only way to feed exp to historic lvls is at lvl 100.

Make no mistake, this is a primarily endgame expansion, for those already or close to endgame. However as with all such discussions, this is a game, feel free to play it how you have fun.

DeffyNature - Archosaur wrote: »

I've met so many awakened noobs in these past days, I'd rather not run FC again. After all, after almost 2 weeks I'm 97, yet I had a lot of fun getting there with no so many FCs. And I could solo it, but where's the fun in that? If I want to solo ****, I'd play an rpg, not an mmorpg.

This.

I've made to lvl 97 so far without even touching hypers nor FCC and I'm enjoying it, plus I've made over 40m by just NPCing DQs to NPCs due to the 2x drops and farmed over 1k colored glues, which I still have to sell.

TWs or whatever can wait. This is a MMO game, a game that you're meant to enjoy slowly, to make friends... it's not just like a short ride to the lvl cap and get bored the next day.

I have to admit I rushed my second rebirth for the reasons Darkskies stated but I enjoyed my first one, especially doing the two new quest lines and reading their story.

Unfortunately there is very little incentive to actually stay a low level. I think, at the very least, the Primordial Blood dailies (the raccoons~) should have had a lower level requirement. I wouldn't mind being a low level but I really want to farm blood for the skills as well as get more War Avatar cards

Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

I have to admit I rushed my second rebirth for the reasons Darkskies stated but I enjoyed my first one, especially doing the two new quest lines and reading their story.

Unfortunately there is very little incentive to actually stay a low level. I think, at the very least, the Primordial Blood dailies (the raccoons~) should have had a lower level requirement. I wouldn't mind being a low level but I really want to farm blood for the skills as well as get more War Avatar cards

I`m more bummed out you actually have to kill those cute little racoons, they are so darn cute!

Its a difficulty nerf, not an XP nerf.

SakuLv - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Its Silly to see that ppl on DW server still think...that ppl who havent reborn..nerf other person (reborn) exp


i joined reborn squad lvl 98 in FC
We all were 98 and i was the only one who wasn't reborn there


so..at the B/M/H they kick my cleric out of squad and said- u nerf our exp

Same here a lot of morons on WC, I made fun of them and then got hate pm`s haha, "they nerf my xp QQ" When I 2nd rb in 1-2 days i`ll make an FCC squad only for 2nd rborns, same retardness on a new level!