Cannot summon flying pets on flier

Kristina_t - Heavens Tear
Kristina_t - Heavens Tear Posts: 131 Arc User
edited April 2014 in Quality Corner
You can no longer summon Herc or Nix while in flight. Need others to confirm the rest of the flying pets.
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  • Seacoral - Sanctuary
    Seacoral - Sanctuary Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Same issue here. Tested on non-evolved flying pets too.
    Proud forum lurker since 2008 b:avoid
  • tigerkatz
    tigerkatz Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Same problem for morai server.
    But you can summon, e.g. nix or herc on land and then summon your aeropod, this works.

    Normally you should be able to "try" to summon even water pets in air and then get the error message "pet cannot be summoned here" (something like that), but my veno not even wanna try it...
  • Markhor - Dreamweaver
    Markhor - Dreamweaver Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I'm experiencing the same problem with a non-legendary flying pet (Windwalking Piggy) on Dreamweaver server. Have not tested on my Mystic yet.
    tigerkatz wrote: »
    Same problem for morai server.
    But you can summon, e.g. nix or herc on land and then summon your aeropod, this works.

    Normally you should be able to "try" to summon even water pets in air and then get the error message "pet cannot be summoned here" (something like that), but my veno not even wanna try it...

    Same thing on DW. Won't even attempt to summon any pet while in the air.
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  • Kristina_t - Heavens Tear
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Was hoping it wouldn't be all flying pets but now we know.
  • Thoolan - Archosaur
    Thoolan - Archosaur Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    have same problem with all pets (legendary and non-legendary) on archo server... i need to summon them on earth and fly up for use them in the air f:strive
    mad veno fox mode f:fume
  • SailorKitty - Lost City
    SailorKitty - Lost City Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    same bug on LC, came out of EU whit a pet, Fly to Lumi city, try to summon pet while fling, nothing, remove wings, summon start, cancel summon, fly again, try to summon, nothing.

    Land summon pet, unsummon, fly again, still can'T summon in air, went out of safe zone to try the same step, nothing.

    How can you break something that was already working XP
  • bluzer
    bluzer Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    RT server can't summon pets while in flight. have to land first.

    IDK if is glitch but was farming fungus and after killing 20 of the falcons got 1 fungus really so I need to farm over 2000 of these to get 100 fungusb:shocked idts!!

    Lvl 71 veno can't solo culti quests any more and can't get anyone to squadb:surrender , guess I will be finding a new game!!
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    1 Fungus per 20 falcons? Sounds about right, pet food drops have always had low rates.

    Which culti quest can't you solo? If it's Resentful Pyrosteosis, yeah, without a herc you aren't soloing it at 71. (At 73, maybe, with at-level eldergoth.)

    And it shouldn't be that hard to get a squad for Pyro. If you're on tonight/over the weekend, whisper YamamoriYuki and I'll see what we can do.
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  • bluzer
    bluzer Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Raged wrath chief and pyro.

    Before update I was getting a fungus about every 8 to 12 kills.

    Oh i have had lots of ppl agree to squad for culti's but they never show!! I think waiting 1/2 hour is long enough.

    I also discovered the valley of disaster(cuz I could solo) no longer drops good coin. b:cry
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Raged Wraith Chief is part of the Old Heaven's Tear opening quest string, not strictly speaking culti.

    Pyro is culti, but there aren't any new skills until 79.

    I ought to be able to solo both once I get back up to 61 and can summon my Celestial Giant, or can duo on 9x cleric and seeker. Like I said, whisper me in-game and we'll see what we can work out. (On the Wraith's Ploy quest string, I normally help the quester up through at least Linus, and only stop there because the whole thing takes so bloody long, though sometimes I continue helping on later days. I can/could solo the whole thing except Polearm.)
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  • dadsmule
    dadsmule Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    guess we just have to make do untill they decide to do something about it.
    it is a hassel having to land to call up a flying pet.
  • svc1
    svc1 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hey CMs or GMs! Has there been any feedback on this topic yet? Venos can still not call an airpet when flying like we could before this expansion. If you are fighting air mobs with your flying pet and it dies, venos have to find a safe spot and land to recall it and then go back to the air to kill; what a waste of time and a major hassle. I did not find any other posting on this topic or answer if there is one. Please let us know when this will be fixed. Thank you. b:thanks
  • surtr
    surtr Posts: 3,378 Perfect World Employee
    edited January 2014
    We're looking into this.
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  • Kristina_t - Heavens Tear
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Also look into the other issues, when swapping from land to air or vice versa, pets will sit there not attacking. While on the ground, air pets will not attack any air targets unless we fly either.

    All of those glitches go back to the "Fix" the **** devs used to make them all terrain and avoid sticking.
  • Kristina_t - Heavens Tear
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Surtr wrote: »
    We're looking into this.


    Update on progress?

    Ample time has passed for you to verify all the recent pet issues and contact the devs for an eta on a solution.

    It is is totally unacceptable to have one of the main features of a class gimped for this long!

    A fix for this and all other pet related problems is top priority over unneeded text corrections and Qinglong's hair sticking out of the top of his helmet!
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited January 2014
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    A fix for this and all other pet related problems is top priority over unneeded text corrections and Qinglong's hair sticking out of the top of his helmet!

    Here's the issue with that.

    The text corrections? That's just localization. It's something they can actually do and are allowed to deal with.

    The major bug with pets? That's with the game's code itself. They don't get to alter or modify the game's code and even if they were allowed, the devs who know how to do so are... in China.

    So the fixes you see now to those small things? That's the staff on this side of the ocean doing as much as they can while waiting for the major fixes from the folks in China.


    As for updates, I'd suggest checking the stickied thread in General Discussion.
    oVenusArmanio wrote: »
    Please post in this thread any and all changes (not just bugs and glitches) that have been made to the game that isn't in the patch notes. Please note that any text in [RED] is commentary from DefenderofDreams (acting CM).

    Update 1/18/14:
    Many bug/glitches are currently being verified and sent to devs for responses. The majority of localization errors have been fixed, with a few more to come in the next patch.

    Projected Date for Next Update: 1/24 - 1/25
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  • Kristina_t - Heavens Tear
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    OPKossy wrote: »
    Here's the issue with that.... the devs who know how to do so are... in China.

    Fact is, it doesn't matter where the developers are. That lame excuse has lost all validity since the days of the cavemen (aka the land before internet).

    The real problem is in PWE's priorities here on this side of the pond. Adding more games, cutting staff, forcing unwanted software, non existent support, no enforcement of TOS, text patches to justify even having a state side team, no communication with the developers or with the players, and the list goes on and on.

    Now on to the next thing.
    OPKossy wrote: »
    As for updates, I'd suggest checking the stickied thread in General Discussion.

    Why is there even a Quality corner if everything will be handled in the huge mass of gloppy stickies full of irrelevant +1 posts in general? You should probably close this section down if those stickies are the preferred way of communication from here on out.
  • Nytefall - Heavens Tear
    Nytefall - Heavens Tear Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Fact is, it doesn't matter where the developers are. That lame excuse has lost all validity since the days of the cavemen (aka the land before internet).

    The real problem is in PWE's priorities here on this side of the pond. Adding more games, cutting staff, forcing unwanted software, non existent support, no enforcement of TOS, text patches to justify even having a state side team, no communication with the developers or with the players, and the list goes on and on.

    Now on to the next thing.



    Why is there even a Quality corner if everything will be handled in the huge mass of gloppy stickies full of irrelevant +1 posts in general? You should probably close this section down if those stickies are the preferred way of communication from here on out.

    There is no reason for this to be happening for so long. All you should have to do is notify the programmer about the issue, the code is changed back to be able to summon air pets in the air and lo and behold, problem solved.

    Stop making excuses and just get it done!! It's not rocket science!!
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  • trefoil
    trefoil Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    bluzer wrote: »
    Raged wrath chief and pyro.

    Before update I was getting a fungus about every 8 to 12 kills.

    Oh i have had lots of ppl agree to squad for culti's but they never show!! I think waiting 1/2 hour is long enough.

    I also discovered the valley of disaster(cuz I could solo) no longer drops good coin. b:cry



    The reason the fungus drop rate and coin drop have decreased is because all servers have been on 2X drop rate since before Christmas and have now gone back to the regular rate. Except during 2X the only profitable instances to solo are Twilight Temple for the chance of valuable mats and Frost Covered for the experience. It sounds like you are in your sixties level-wise so don't forget to do your Jolly Jones Bounty Orders, not the BH's from head hunter but the money quests from the Jolly Jones NPC in the human/elf/ untamed starter area. I make about 6-700K per character per day doing that. You should be able to afford to buy your pet food then.
  • Mrsgreenleaf - Lost City
    Mrsgreenleaf - Lost City Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I'm on Archosaur server with a level 64 veno and mine cant summon either. whilst flying i cannot summon my foxwing supreme. i have to be on the ground to summon then take to flight again, a real bummer if your trying to get up fast for a reason. b:angry
  • Thoolan - Archosaur
    Thoolan - Archosaur Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    two months later the problem is still unsolved foxy alone
    mad veno fox mode f:fume
  • Kristina_t - Heavens Tear
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Thoolan - Archosaur wrote: »
    two months later the problem is still unsolved foxy alone

    They are ignoring it like they've been ignoring this pet problem since June. b:angry
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited February 2014
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    They are ignoring it like they've been ignoring this pet issue since June. b:angry
    Thoolan - Archosaur wrote: »
    two months later the problem is still unsolved foxy alone
    See:
    Surtr wrote: »
    The developers just got back from their Chinese New Year vacation, so we'll be discussing this issue (and others) with them in the coming days.

    Note, however, that there is currently no ETA for a fix, and this is not a guarantee that it will be fixed in the next patch. We'll be doing everything we can to get it fixed soon, but due to the nature of these things I simply can't make any promises as to when that will be.

    As soon as we have a confirmed fix, though, you can rest assured that it will definitely show up in the patch notes.b:pleased
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  • Kristina_t - Heavens Tear
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    OPKossy wrote: »
    See:

    >.>

    So they have been on vacation for 9 months or at least since they boxed and shipped the expansion is that what you are saying?

    Enough with the excuses for incompetence. Pointless mod posts are pointless!
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited February 2014
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    So they have been on vacation for 9 months or at least since they boxed and shipped the expansion is that what you are saying?

    Enough with the excuses for incompetence. Pointless mod posts are pointless!

    I'm sorry. I was unaware that you knew the game's code and could fix this all on your own. I was also completely unaware that you could speak fluent Chinese and had convinced the folks in charge of what fixes we get from China and when we get them to put these issues as top priority fixes that must be immediately dealt with.

    Fact of the matter is, the devs who do what their bosses tell them to were on vacation and there's nothing on PWI's side that could change that. On top of this, it's the folks in China who prioritize what gets fixed and when. Not PWI regardless of when or how often the folks on this side of the ocean report whatever issue to the guys in China. Oh and there's also the fact that they tend to send patches in bulk instead of one at a time. So even if the devs have gone and fixed something, we won't get word until they send us their bulk fix.

    It's one thing to be ignorant and/or frustrated. If you plan to constantly call them incompetent, however, bring hard evidence instead of wild claims that prove you don't have any idea what you're talking about. After all, I don't see you doing better and if you think they're so incompetent, surely you can get a job there and quickly revolutionize their entire work process.



    Edit: Yes there's incompetence of another variety that goes on for other reasons. However this one? Really? Yeah, no.
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  • Kristina_t - Heavens Tear
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Someone got mad I see.
    OPKossy wrote: »
    I'm sorry. I was unaware that you knew the game's code and could fix this all on your own. I was also completely unaware that you could speak fluent Chinese and had convinced the folks in charge of what fixes we get from China and when we get them to put these issues as top priority fixes that must be immediately dealt with.

    Never once said I did. You know what they say about people that assume things right? However one expects the people in charge to be component enough to do what you mentioned, of course it's not happening so what does that say about them?

    Fact of the matter is, the devs who do what their bosses tell them to were on vacation and there's nothing on PWI's side that could change that. On top of this, it's the folks in China who prioritize what gets fixed and when. Not PWI regardless of when or how often the folks on this side of the ocean report whatever issue to the guys in China. Oh and there's also the fact that they tend to send patches in bulk instead of one at a time. So even if the devs have gone and fixed something, we won't get word until they send us their bulk fix.

    So since you want proof for everything, where is ours that they have even sent any of these items to be looked at? We are supposed to trust what they say based on their past history? Yeah right!

    It's one thing to be ignorant and/or frustrated. If you plan to constantly call them incompetent, however, bring hard evidence instead of wild claims that prove you don't have any idea what you're talking about. After all, I don't see you doing better and if you think they're so incompetent, surely you can get a job there and quickly revolutionize their entire work process.

    For your hard evidence... All one has to do is log on a server or visit these forums to see countless instances of their incompetence. Far to many to list here but we can go with the most recent example being personal attacks against a player by a supposed MOD no matter how nicely worded you try to mask them.
  • Arriioch - Dreamweaver
    Arriioch - Dreamweaver Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Not to poke the bee's nest but are there any ideas on when this might be fixed? It's becoming an issue in TW now having to drop out of the sky .. summon then back into the air ... it's bad enough being a veno and being hated and targeted instantly ... soon as I drop I'm dead.

    Thanks !!! b:pleased


    PS I also heard that this was an "intended" fix? Any ideas about that one too?
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    So since you want proof for everything, where is ours that they have even sent any of these items to be looked at? We are supposed to trust what they say based on their past history? Yeah right!

    From the Official Notes/Observations for New Horizons sticky in General:
    3. Can't summon venomancer pets when flying Future Patch - TBD

    So yes, PWE has acknowledged it's a bug (and checked with China about it, or it would have been noted as an intended change instead), it has been reported to China along with several others, and we have to wait with varying degrees of impatience for the next non-text fix patch and hope it gets fixed.
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  • Kristina_t - Heavens Tear
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Bump because they have had long enough to fix this.

    We expect an official (no mods or lurkers) response to this problem and the other pet issues you have ignored for almost a year now.
  • Roxxannae - Sanctuary
    Roxxannae - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Bump because they have had long enough to fix this.

    We expect an official (no mods or lurkers) response to this problem and the other pet issues you have ignored for almost a year now.

    soon(tm)

    In all seriousness they are aware of the issue and forwarded it to the devs over in China already. It's up to them to fix the bugs and then actually send over the fixes. According to a post in another thread in QC it may be in a future patch but the date for that is unknown. That's up to China, again.

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