Is anyone else actually looking forward to this expansion?

EIayne - Dreamweaver
EIayne - Dreamweaver Posts: 55 Arc User
edited December 2013 in General Discussion
hyper ho's or not, FC baby circumnavigating or not, I am looking forward to this. How many people complain that after BH's, there's nothing for a 100+ toon to do other then maybe go PK some people? This gives them something else to fill their time with, and it's a LOVELY change from the usual "expansions" which include "hey look, MORE NEW GEAR for you to farm and +12, making your old **** that you just finished obsolete.."

This card system (card system?) Introduces new boosts to strive towards without making all your R9rr and G16 gear suddenly ****.

And quite frankly, I would rather reawaken a toon I already have then level a 12'th BH farmer to 100... b:infuriated

I just don't see what everyone is complaining for
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  • _dblazen_ - Dreamweaver
    _dblazen_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    One side I am looking forward to it, on the other side I'm a bit iffy on it because it was never hard to get to level 100 or even 101
    It's what comes after it that you'd have to redo again...

    Also, I wonder if you reincarnate... what if you did every available quest already when you started this game out, you purely level on grinding mobs then if you dont want to run fc big rooms from level 1 > 100?
  • sm3ag0l
    sm3ag0l Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    as far as i read a lot of the new quests give nice rewards so hypering to 100 again after you went back to lvl 1 prob makes you miss that all and whats the point of being 100+ again fast? to be bored as hell again lol if the update works good it can be a lot of fun but i fear the card system is gonna be just as crappy as the title system with only half working shet and the rest for insane prizes in the boutiqeu for sale probably.

    i hope i'm wrong and its gonna work but i fear its gonna be same shet different day as with every update we got so far never there has been 1 that worked 100% ijs
  • lyukung
    lyukung Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I don't really get why people are complaining about re-lvling again... since it's basically like if you're lvling an alt, but in an easier way, with more benefits (new skills for instance).

    I guess people just like to randomly complain about stuff.
  • OFate - Heavens Tear
    OFate - Heavens Tear Posts: 497 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    lyukung wrote: »
    I don't really get why people are complaining about re-lvling again... since it's basically like if you're lvling an alt, but in an easier way, with more benefits (new skills for instance).

    I guess people just like to randomly complain about stuff.

    Cept.... got to wonder once they hit 30 what kind of bloodbath there is going to be on the PvP servers... People getting even with someone that griefed them when they were high levels > and rebirthed.
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  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    SylenThunder - Twilight Temple Posts: 7,908
    edited December 2013
    The problem is that the game has basically become about how much money you throw at it to play. Skill doesn't make a difference at all unless you're among the few who have maxed out everything.

    All the expansion does is add more complexity to an already broken system, and new content that caters to the already high-level cash shoppers. As for the rest of us, we're basically left in the dust.
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  • lyukung
    lyukung Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    OFate - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Cept.... got to wonder once they hit 30 what kind of bloodbath there is going to be on the PvP servers... People getting even with someone that griefed them when they were high levels > and rebirthed.

    If that was my case, I would avoid conflit, untill I could even things out, ijs. And grieving is against the rules, isn't it?
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I was a bit iffy at the beginning because getting to 105 requires some devotion; doing PV daily, lots of AEU, daily quests and all that. I can't say I'm particularly excited about having to do that all over again.

    However, after putting more thought into it I think I'm going to enjoy being a noob once again, doing quests and everything. My first journey with my first character, this one, was the most enjoyable. Alts just aren't the same thing. Now I get the opportunity to quest and discover new places (assuming the new map we're getting) and re-live this. I'm just really gonna hate it when I get to 101 and I have to get back to 105 :P

    Instances look promising gameplay wise so maybe they are fun too. I love Hidden Dragon Den and the new instances seem to follow the same logic of having more interactive environment and interesting mechanics.

    The thing is...people are going to rush to lvl100. Unlike PWCN, we can use hypers and enter FCC from lvl1. The point of re-living the adventure and reviving old unused instances and map locations is..not there..but oh well~ I'll just enjoy myself.
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  • Lalena - Sanctuary
    Lalena - Sanctuary Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Just another year and another expansion devoted to end gamers who hav gotten thru the long mind numbing routine of chrono and have 3rd fairy..which never was much fun to most players...unless in a good strong helpful fac...these days those are few to find..so maybe end gamers can again tinker around with new things to do...for the rest who never / couldnt get that far...you cant enjoy an expansion which has about zero content for you.
  • _dblazen_ - Dreamweaver
    _dblazen_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Lalena - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Just another year and another expansion devoted to end gamers who hav gotten thru the long mind numbing routine of chrono and have 3rd fairy..which never was much fun to most players...unless in a good strong helpful fac...these days those are few to find..so maybe end gamers can again tinker around with new things to do...for the rest who never / couldnt get that far...you cant enjoy an expansion which has about zero content for you.

    You don't need to have the celestial culti completed, there's a video of someone on the china server who only has the first fairy, level 89 culti.

    So, no, not a valid point.
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Lalena - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Just another year and another expansion devoted to end gamers who hav gotten thru the long mind numbing routine of chrono and have 3rd fairy..which never was much fun to most players...unless in a good strong helpful fac...these days those are few to find..so maybe end gamers can again tinker around with new things to do...for the rest who never / couldnt get that far...you cant enjoy an expansion which has about zero content for you.

    You don't need the 3rd fairy to reawaken though. You just need to be Sage/Demon and lvl 100. They are also, apparently, making Chrono/Cultivation easier too.
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  • ObviousAlt - Raging Tide
    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide Posts: 655 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    according to the video.. u keep your culti status
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  • Lolgasmic - Raging Tide
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide Posts: 1,315 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    'Is anyone else looking forward to the expa'-- NO! I want PWI to back up their own f*cking rules in the ToS and ban the players who used the glitch to get full +10.
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  • __Sami__ - Archosaur
    __Sami__ - Archosaur Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    _dblazen_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You don't need to have the celestial culti completed, there's a video of someone on the china server who only has the first fairy, level 89 culti.

    So, no, not a valid point.

    So your telling me I almost finished my celestial culti for nothing on my sin? Guess I try to do the last full delta just in case...
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »
    'Is anyone else looking forward to the expa'-- NO! I want PWI to back up their own f*cking rules in the ToS and ban the players who used the glitch to get full +10.

    How fast people forget don`t they, just what PWI wants, expansion won`t offer anything to compensate their biggest **** up of all times.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I have TEN characters that are 80 or over 80. The amount of time I have invested in playing them to where they are is rather vast. I no longer have free time like I used to, so therefore, I don't want to restart at level 1 again, TEN TIMES OVER.

    On top of that, I'm really irritated because I DO NOT BUY FCC. I prefer to actually play from 1 to 100, even if it is actually running BH's, FCC, or grinding (Quest 1 to 19, grind from 19 to 40, PV/BH from 40 to 75, and BH/PV/FCC from 75 until I get tired of leveling around 100).

    IF this means that there are a ton of OP jerks running around in R9+12JOSD at level 80 that can essentially solo FCC anyway, I seriously don't see it helping anything.

    If I wanted everything to be 105, I'd literally just solo FCC for myself.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary wrote: »
    How fast people forget don`t they, just what PWI wants, expansion won`t offer anything to compensate their biggest **** up of all times.

    Heh.
    I haven't forgotten but I guess I should try enjoying it during the christmas break..then back to being busy b:laugh
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  • dudeman121
    dudeman121 Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Hmm Meridian and now cards... Yes that will last so long and be sooo exciting b:laugh Obviously the idea of content is lacking and instead will focus on boosting your stats a little via tasks.

    As for the whole rebirth, where do I start... Again its just another silly attempt to take your attention off the obvious lack of content "Ok people lets get excited by our new content which is *drum roll*... Well to be honest we ran out of ideas so heres a rebirth system!! \o/" Real original guys!!
    What I'm seeing is very little work in adding new things like instances, main/sub/quest line, a level cap increase while either reducing the amount of exp needed to hit 105 or increasing exp gains via new content mobs etc. There are many things they can do but the best they came up with was REBIRTH!!
    Notice how there is more effort put into cash items than actual content/fixes? I'm sure they will expect this "new content" to bring in extra paying customers. While I understand that they need an income to run the game, they can't expect honestly expect that this is enough to keep people around... more content 1st then focus on some cash stuff. Personally I will not be spending any more money on this game and quite likely none of my time either. I'd rather pay server charges on a game that actually releases content/fixes bugs etc rather than treat their player base as cash cows.

    It has honestly been a good run, however this game is dying fast and seems to me that they're just trying to squeeze that extra few bucks out before its over < this is just my opinion
  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Heh.
    I haven't forgotten but I guess I should try enjoying it during the christmas break..then back to being busy b:laugh

    I`ll maybe pop on to see what the fuss is about and you will be my guide. b:chuckle
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  • freygin
    freygin Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    agree, this game needs more new instances, every update seems to be only changing existing instances, and even if there is a new one, we are forced to do it a lot of times for getting something.

    want to upgrade cube neck ? do cube a lot of times
    want to upgrade warsong belt ? do full warsong a lot of times
    want to make nirvana gears ? do a lot of runs in nirvana instance.
    want more exp ? do BH, and again in all existing instance.

    though some of it already changed or available via lucky packs, but there is a pattern in there.

    also they make the drops kinda difficult to distribute for every squad member, like the new hidden dragon den, only 3 red dragon bloods from one boss and there are 2 bosses drops them, 6 in total while we have 10 people in a squad, luckily there is a quest from it where we get them equally.
  • Asone - Raging Tide
    Asone - Raging Tide Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I will laugh so hard if there's the possibility that we won't be able to use FC at all. That would just make my day.f:sneaky
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Asone - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I will laugh so hard if there's the possibility that we won't be able to use FC at all. That would just make my day.f:sneaky

    Then people will fight over oracle spots like before hypers.

    People need to lvl to endgame ASAP so they can be bored out of their minds and blame the devs there is no content anymore lol.
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  • SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver
    SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Here's the thing. (Long post, so be forewarned.)

    There are ways to improve this game, and its systems. However, putting us into a leveling rotation isn't one of them. Some of us leveled appropriately, and refused to go to FC at earlier levels. We actually took the time to learn our classes, and see our characters grow from the work that the we did. It was a sense of accomplishment to level. I bought heads once, at around level 77, because I was eager to learn my level 79 skills, and was told that I would gain a lot of XP. After that, I ran FC in the 80's, which is on level, and continued onwards to level 100. Then through a mixture of quests, and other things...made it finally to 101.

    The reason that I mention this is because I didn't speedboost myself to the top. I actually worked for it. I don't feel like doing that work again, only to revisit the older dungeons...and older quest spots that give minute amounts of experience, and honestly, I'm not going to. I don't find interest in wandering back around again as a level 1 character again questing. PWI wants to repopulate the lower leveled areas, then give us a reason to level our alts there. Give us a reason to quest in the main areas. Here's an idea, though PWI is far too greedy to implement it. Give quests to higher end players that awards various amounts of non-upgradeable flawless citrine, garnet, sapphire, and accuracy shards. Let some quests award tishas, chienkangs, and tienkangs...orbs up to +5. This method doesn't give anyone truly great shards or refines...not even enough to be a true challenge for a lot of players for nation wars, but what it does do is give a true incentive for questing..and that's what you want. You want QUESTERS to explore content, and level. Buff the coins, spirit and experience gained by a lot. Let the drops for lower leveled players be the amount they used to be, as a pose to a pitiful 1 coin. THOSE are ways to repopulate the questing zones, and you do things on a more minor, but different scale for lower leveled players. That way, they are ENCOURAGED not to skip the content. Offer players things that they WANT, not enough to wreck the economy, but in a way so that they people will WANT to do those quests for those quest rewards...and please, don't put it at % chance of earning it. Make it a guaranteed non-upgradeable flawless at higher end, or something guaranteed for lower levels...like 800k coin for certain quests...which is a true incentive for new players doing them, and not leveling an alt.

    One of the big things about this update is that the new content...is the same content. My class doesn't even get any notable improvements in skills, and from what I've read...no new skills. Like I said, I see what PWI is trying to do, but given the games age, and some innate flaws in it, a level rotation expansion and some cards isn't what I see as the best alternative.

    The thing that some people mentioned about leveling to endgame, and I mean no disrespect to anyone when I say this...but thing about leveling to endgame...is that we're already endgame. Now they want for us to level to beginner game, and back again...and do it multiple times. This also isn't fair, considering that when the goon glitch was around, some players...not all, but a lot of 104/105 players suddenly popped up, and were not penalized. Thing is, they'll be the ones getting full stat bonuses, and this adds even more insult to injury at the end of the day.

    I like this game's foundation. I want to enjoy it. But some originality needs to be in place. Some true thought needs to be placed into it. Want people to be in beginner zones, and questing zones, then make that dungeon level 75+ for non-incarnated players and improve the rewards and drops of quests. That way people who are incarnated and don't want to repeat the process again have the option of either doing it, or skipping it if they want, and go to true endgame again...whereas the people who are new, or are on an alt can learn their class, and have to work their way through this game like we did before. All in all. I think this idea needs more work, but...we'll see in 2 days how it works.
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  • OFate - Heavens Tear
    OFate - Heavens Tear Posts: 497 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    dudeman121 wrote: »
    .

    It has honestly been a good run, however this game is dying fast and seems to me that they're just trying to squeeze that extra few bucks out before its over < this is just my opinion

    For as long as Perfect World has been around - people have been saying "It's dying".

    I am happy about the expansion because... it's something. I have one toon, so.. why not.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Im looking forward b:chuckle wanna be stronger jus cause.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver wrote: »


    The thing that some people mentioned about leveling to endgame, and I mean no disrespect to anyone when I say this...but thing about leveling to endgame...is that we're already endgame. Now they want for us to level to beginner game, and back again...and do it multiple times. This also isn't fair, considering that when the goon glitch was around, some players...not all, but a lot of 104/105 players suddenly popped up, and were not penalized. Thing is, they'll be the ones getting full stat bonuses, and this adds even more insult to injury at the end of the day.

    That's mostly an issue we have here but it's not present in PWCN. They probably have the glitch there too but no hypers in FCC so I assume all their 105s are legitimate. With that in mind, they are obviously awarding them because that's natural.

    They still got a way to let us get max points in the end though, which I think is nice. Those who reawaken prior 105 will still have the chance to get all the points later.

    The reawakening system itself is probably more appealing to the playerbase of PWCN. As we know, eastern MMOs tend to be a lot more grind heavy and the fact that they have no way of powerleveling through FCC makes the whole system more meaningful. On our game, I could predict most people will powerlevel back up to "endgame" and then get bored because of lack of content.

    Not agreeing nor disagreeing but just pointing these bits out. You have to keep in mind that the updates we receive are not exactly made to appeal to us albeit they often tweak things around for our version. The only time we got something made specifically for us was the 3rd cast Nirvana/R9 gears.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Most of the 105s still playing are probably 105 via PV and not goon glitch so I really don't get the constant goon glitching QQ.
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  • FlyRanger - Dreamweaver
    FlyRanger - Dreamweaver Posts: 263 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    What will happen when people reawaken and use their lv. 100+ alts to solo the quest mobs for them with one shot, while other low levels are trying to get the kills?
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  • SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver
    SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

    They still got a way to let us get max points in the end though, which I think is nice. Those who reawaken prior 105 will still have the chance to get all the points later.

    Oh, we will still be able to obtain the stat points? Please do tell how we will be able to. I am interested in learning this, as I must have overlooked it...and maximum amounts of stats would be nice.

    And true. You bring up valid points Desdi. :)
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    FlyRanger - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    What will happen when people reawaken and use their lv. 100+ alts to solo the quest mobs for them with one shot, while other low levels are trying to get the kills?

    Why would you bother doing that when you can just go out to the desert and hyper mobs? Or better yet, 3rd map if that's open.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Oh, we will still be able to obtain the stat points? Please do tell how we will be able to. I am interested in learning this, as I must have overlooked it...and maximum amounts of stats would be nice.

    And true. You bring up valid points Desdi. :)

    As far as we've seen through videos and read through the leaked information, once you hit lvl100 again (after reawakening) you can choose to direct all incoming EXP to the "historical level".

    For example, you're 103 and reawaken. You level back up to 100. Now you choose the option to direct the EXP to old level. All the EXP you gain go towards your old "103". Eventually it hits 104. Additional points are given.

    It's supposedly works like that.


    On another note, on what FlyRanger said, the gear we're receiving upon reawakening appears to be as strong as a TT60-ish set. That's pretty OP for lvl1 if you ask me o.o
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