Add Nirvana palace into BH list

Egamoto - Harshlands
Egamoto - Harshlands Posts: 46 Arc User
edited October 2013 in General Discussion
It will be a welcome addition to BHs plus it will be a breather to avoid Lunar BH being handed to us 3 days in a row
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  • blondecherry
    blondecherry Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I agree, this would be a great addition to the 100bh system.
  • TPstar - Sanctuary
    TPstar - Sanctuary Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    nope, but in the new upcoming patch,


    BH metal is getting replaced by BH aeu
    BH fire is getting replaced by BH 2-3
    BH lunar will have 500k reward back
  • HideYoHubby - Archosaur
    HideYoHubby - Archosaur Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    nope, but in the new upcoming patch,


    BH metal is getting replaced by BH aeu
    BH fire is getting replaced by BH 2-3
    BH lunar will have 500k reward back

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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    >No TT BH
    >No alternate Warsong Pavilion/Lunar path BH
    >No Endless Universe BH
    >No Hidden Dragon's Den BH
    >No alternate SoT/Abaddon BH (post revamp)

    What makes Nirvana so special, OP?
    You didn't really give any reason aside from wanting to avoid another Lunar BH. b:scorn

    Edit:
    nope, but in the new upcoming patch,


    BH metal is getting replaced by BH aeu
    BH fire is getting replaced by BH 2-3
    BH lunar will have 500k reward back

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    Though this is an obvious joke
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    TPstar - Sanctuary Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited October 2013
  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited October 2013

    ....Well.
    I can agree with BH AEU. Cool change. Lunar giving back 500k.... I'd like to see how that plays out. It could make EoDs a bit more uncommon with fewer doing full Lunars (since it would be essentially "free") unless they want to go through it all for 500K and an extra badge.
    I wonder who the target for BH 2-3 will be, but at least its a BH2
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  • Sevchenko - Dreamweaver
    Sevchenko - Dreamweaver Posts: 661 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    What they already did:
    - Make nirvana useless.
    - Remove Faction Base Trials.
    - Make SoT/Abaddon too hard to farm for books (Actually nobody even tries that anymore.)
    - Remove DQRewards.
    - Remove Token Shop.
    - Add an unlimited Rank 9 Sale.
    - Add an unlimited pack sale.
    - Add an unlimited reputation sale.
    - G16 Nirvy items can't be re-honed without losing its refines. (Unless you pay lots of ridiculously expensive Chienkun stones per re-hone trial).
    - Add Autopot/teleport bell: 2 nearly useless services that are Pay-2-use, free on the most other games.

    What they're yet up to (or what they could do to ruin the game furthermore):
    - Remove BH.
    - Make TT useless. (Oh its already nearly useless.)
    - Remove FC.
    - Add 1 click exps to the GShop.
    - Add unlimited 10* and 12* orbs sale on the GShop.
    - Remove Jolly Old Jones daily bounty quests.
    - Readjust Warsong Mold drop rates to reduce even less the chance of Nirvana Molds.
    - Remove Lv Cap.
    - Remove Status Cap.
    - Put an item on the GShop that permanently adds a free status point.
    - Even though it being a pay 2 win game, it turns into Pay-2-play too.
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    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    What they already did:
    - Make nirvana useless.
    - Remove Faction Base Trials.
    It was a waste of time to begin with
    - Make SoT/Abaddon too hard to farm for books (Actually nobody even tries that anymore.)
    - Remove DQRewards.
    There has to be a compensation for this
    - Remove Token Shop.
    It was garbage to begin with at least for PWI
    - Add an unlimited Rank 9 Sale.
    - Add an unlimited pack sale.
    - Add an unlimited reputation sale.
    - G16 Nirvy items can't be re-honed without losing its refines. (Unless you pay lots of ridiculously expensive Chienkun stones per re-hone trial).
    Then make a new set of nirvy gear for this?
    - Add Autopot/teleport bell: 2 nearly useless services that are Pay-2-use, free on the most other games.
    Why did they add this?

    What they're yet up to (or what they could do to ruin the game furthermore):
    - Remove BH.
    If they do, then okay, not a big deal
    - Make TT useless. (Oh its already nearly useless.)
    - Remove FC.
    If they do... Good riddance
    - Add 1 click exps to the GShop.
    Doubt it
    - Add unlimited 10* and 12* orbs sale on the GShop.
    - Remove Jolly Old Jones daily bounty quests.
    They better not... That is the only main source of income for beginners/intermediates
    - Readjust Warsong Mold drop rates to reduce even less the chance of Nirvana Molds.
    Hopefully not
    - Remove Lv Cap.
    - Remove Status Cap.
    - Put an item on the GShop that permanently adds a free status point.
    If so, hopefully there is a limit
    - Even though it being a pay 2 win game, it turns into Pay-2-play too.


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  • Liveena - Heavens Tear
    Liveena - Heavens Tear Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Hmm, let see what heppen if AEU sub-boss is one of the BH boss:

    BH AEU....Kill Aohe in AEU aka twin boss.

    6 tries and never got Aohe b:cry
    b:chuckle
    So they will removing Warsong bosses from BH list, means people really need to do full warsong or warsong badge run to get the mold/badge.

    Good thing I guess, since doing BH metal/fire is rather time consuming especially as opener due to the waiting time.
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  • Vedovis - Lost City
    Vedovis - Lost City Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    As someone who has never done AEU nor wants to do AEU.. I guess I should get practising b:shocked
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  • Breannak - Raging Tide
    Breannak - Raging Tide Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Just maybe.
  • Lolgasmic - Raging Tide
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide Posts: 1,315 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Can we get a replacement for Bh Delta Wave 2 foxy alone. 4 out of 5 people that are level 100+ already have at least a T3 weapon.

    It's not that it's a bad instance, but it's boring as -
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Im fine with the other changes, but why remove bh metal? :/ At least it gave undergeared people some good chance to get a badge. Plus it's fun.
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  • Sevchenko - Dreamweaver
    Sevchenko - Dreamweaver Posts: 661 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    They want money, they don't care if the game is enjoyable or not.
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  • HideYoHubby - Archosaur
    HideYoHubby - Archosaur Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Can we get a replacement for Bh Delta Wave 2 foxy alone. 4 out of 5 people that are level 100+ already have at least a T3 weapon.

    It's not that it's a bad instance, but it's boring as -

    I just dual client my shop into instance too for free bh reward. Then again barb shop with geared sin is easy to drag to pretty much every instance.
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  • Marengo - Lost City
    Marengo - Lost City Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    - Add Autopot/teleport bell: 2 nearly useless services that are Pay-2-use, free on the most other games.
    Autopot is VERY useful. But i also expected it for free.
    Hmm, let see what heppen if AEU sub-boss is one of the BH boss:

    BH AEU....Kill Aohe in AEU aka twin boss.

    6 tries and never got Aohe b:cry
    Aurogon will be BH boss probably. I hope it will never happen though. The most annoying part of aeu is making squad for it.
    Good thing I guess, since doing BH metal/fire is rather time consuming especially as opener due to the waiting time.
    But you know it's always 15 min and can do something else during that time. Running this BH is not time-consuming at all.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Interesting stuff...though I don't like that they're removing BH metal :(
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  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Oh God, I hate AEU with a vengeance, I get extremely laggy in Aurogon's pool or rubberbanding and end up mostly just popping a few skills .-.
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  • bugleboy1
    bugleboy1 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    After reading the Chinese page I found the following:

    【墨羽风华 鬼鹤】 - this is the chinese name for the last boss in EU, not AEU, according to http://cn.ecatomb.net/boss-descent.php

    Also 【无定宙】 translates as Endless universe, there is no mention of the advanced bit.

    The boss from TT2-3 would be wurlord as 【大将 神武罗 虚】 is the Chinese name of wurlord according to http://cn.ecatomb.net/boss-hh6.php

    I *cannot* speak Chinese, this is just using google translate! So if anyone knows better, please do say!
  • Poopinpanto - Heavens Tear
    Poopinpanto - Heavens Tear Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    lol if they take out bh's (lvl 100) I guess ill surely retire then because its all I really do in this game is bh's..othe than that its a bore fest.
  • Samare - Dreamweaver
    Samare - Dreamweaver Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well if AEU boss becomes BH boss then is very interesting but i dont like the removing of BH in warsong but well at least that badge is replaced by the badge of the hauntery queen o.o
  • hypereccentrik
    hypereccentrik Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Instead of replacing bh's pwe should just add those into the mix, and as for Nirvana it should be made more useful and ofc turn it into a bh as well. I can't speak for anyone else but I would not mine more variety. b:victory
  • Nana_PL - Raging Tide
    Nana_PL - Raging Tide Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    BH...? I dont want to see Nirvy falling that low... But i guess its better than keeping it dead forever. I really wish to see Nirvana as well as other instances like Delta, trials, EU etc revamped with some nice rewards to bring back the interest of the players to those dungeons b:surrender
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Knowing PWI they would rather add a World Boss as BH, then watch people rage, Bh`s are good as they are except annoying delta which is only good to trash, Nirvana also not bad and AEU IF you don`t need an entry item for it (key, order). Other bosses of Warsong would be a nice change, or even the annoying TT, personally I`d love a permanent Abadon. b:cute
  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    edited October 2013
    Knowing PWI they would rather add a World Boss as BH, then watch people rage, Bh`s are good as they are except annoying delta which is only good to trash, Nirvana also not bad and AEU IF you don`t need an entry item for it (key, order). Other bosses of Warsong would be a nice change, or even the annoying TT, personally I`d love a permanent Abadon. b:cute
    If AEU, they would likely provide the key/item when you pick up the BH like they do with Delta.

    I liked the idea of Nirvana, and Delta isn't so bad if you stack them. Having Delta2 for BH1, and then Delta3 for BH2 on the same day is pretty silly. A good spawn run hardly takes more than half an hour.

    Making WB's a BH item would only work if the respawn time for said boss was closer to 15 minutes or half an hour.
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  • HideYoHubby - Archosaur
    HideYoHubby - Archosaur Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Out of curiosity, what others think how new BH compensation on lunar will affect EoD prices? Will ultimately free BH raise prices as ppl dont feel like finishing instance or will it increase people who do lunars do no fee and thus increase supply of EoDs? I took precautions of selling "extra" EoDs for profit, getting myself to 50 stashed EoDs(Still overkill for anal stats re-rolling). Right now I am debating if I should take risk with stashing few more extras and hope prices go up or not =/. I got a feeling I should be stashing more for expansion but predicting people has never been my strongest area. With coming 2x drops, should be easy way to get cheap EoDs if we get few BH days.
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Out of curiosity, what others think how new BH compensation on lunar will affect EoD prices? Will ultimately free BH raise prices as ppl dont feel like finishing instance or will it increase people who do lunars do no fee and thus increase supply of EoDs? I took precautions of selling "extra" EoDs for profit, getting myself to 50 stashed EoDs(Still overkill for anal stats re-rolling). Right now I am debating if I should take risk with stashing few more extras and hope prices go up or not =/. I got a feeling I should be stashing more for expansion but predicting people has never been my strongest area. With coming 2x drops, should be easy way to get cheap EoDs if we get few BH days.

    Option A: Squad decides to pay 500k each for the opening fee. They reach Hauntery Queen and disband afterwards.
    -Squad lead may solo to the end/call for friends to help from here.

    Option B: Free Run, entire fee is taken on by squad leader and they go to the end. Everyone gets an extra badge and 500k but spends a bit more time there.

    Probably won't change prices much, but Lunar will most likely be run a bit more often without a fee regardless...it could drag EoD prices down slightly or by a huge margin, but we'll have to see.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Excited about the money back on Lunar. Maybe people will learn how to run it rather than totally ignoring it and then claiming its hard because they failed once, six months ago, with a group of players who also had barely ran it before. Its actually one of our best designed and more interested instances in PWI.

    You know if we get a 2-3 BH boss it'll become anti-aps. This means another screwed up market for whatever drops that boss gives.

    Delta 2 needs to go. I normally run it with a group of friends and one solos, 5 afk. Even when I solo I still spend 90 seconds of every 2 minutes wave waiting. It used to take a tank to do delta but with G16 any class can tank it and with a tank you don't even need a cleric. We've long since outgrown it.

    Once you get lvl 100 there is little point to BH2s since 660k for a 15 minute BH is worthless. Go run an FCC or a Nix valley and get 8-20m exp in the same amount of time. The only thing it's good for is feeding your nubs, and that creates players who have skipped level 70-99 because they could feed their alts their BH leftovers. I have catshops that have almost leveled to 100 this way.
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  • nanu9954
    nanu9954 Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    *** no for bh nirvy b:angry i bet that everyone would take only sins for that ****** bh



    LFM BH NIRVANA NEED 5 RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR9 SINS, LINK WEP f:fume We not ****** want that
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    HideYoHubby - Archosaur Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    nanu9954 wrote: »
    *** no for bh nirvy b:angry i bet that everyone would take only sins for that ****** bh



    LFM BH NIRVANA NEED 5 RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR9 SINS, LINK WEP f:fume We not ****** want that

    Reasons ppl went with OP squads were cause of spamming said instance for hours, thus each minute off run was significant. If its just BH, who the frack cares if bh takes few mins longer? Beats WCing for 10mins for your ideal squad.
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