Gold prices

It was 1.890/1.810 yesterday in DW. Not sure about today, but I like it when the gap is a bit larger. Such a close gap won't allow for a profit in merching.

We're at about 2.2/2.1

All time high that I recall was 2.5, maybe a bit more.

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

So I guess I can draw a conclusion our CSer population has decreased/stopped CSing as much as in past per CSer. Or that demand has increased severly. Oh how I wish for a merge to bigger server with more stable gold market <.<.

Demand has increased because changes made to PWI has increased reliance upon the boutique. If people stopped CSing more players would hold onto their gold instead of trying to flip boutique items.

The main thing that's changed in merching boutique stuff since years ago is supply is held by fewer people in higher quantities (a lot like the token market), buying substantial amounts low and selling substantial amounts high.

That's why they consistently flatten out even when you see these spikes (usually around the time of an impending new sale) of few-to-zero sellers or buyers.

Having a panic and hoarding gold (i.e. not turning it into capital/assets), or not CSing, is not good for business for someone who flips.

A bigger server wouldn't change anything really, this seems an issue with all servers.

As a mid to high level Zen purchaser and gold seller, I've stopped buying Zen the past couple of months due to the recently poor directional moves of PWE, and until I see the outcome of the recent DQ changes I won't be buying anymore Zen. Too many players, especially the f2p crowd were dependent on DQ for the event gold, and other means of buying gold from Zen buyers.

The population is already drastically low, and I fear it going lower soon, so to sink more money in this game, nope, sorry I am no fool.

We need a stimulus package.


PWI send everyone 625 silver. will fix it.

Wickedbrew - Raging Tide wrote: »

As a mid to high level Zen purchaser and gold seller, I've stopped buying Zen the past couple of months due to the recently poor directional moves of PWE, and until I see the outcome of the recent DQ changes I won't be buying anymore Zen. Too many players, especially the f2p crowd were dependent on DQ for the event gold, and other means of buying gold from Zen buyers.

The population is already drastically low, and I fear it going lower soon, so to sink more money in this game, nope, sorry I am no fool.

^^^^ all of what you just said is why me and my husband stoped puting money on the game about 3 or 4 years ago. Now that I have a good ammount of money I can blow on the game pwi is not seeing a dime because of everything that has happened. Only reason I am on this game is I have a great faction, period. And it would be a inservice to them for me to ditch on them for there loyality.

To be honest I dont think this has much to do with PWI Team or Staff. I think its a lot more simple. Gold Seller just started to realize players who cant buy zen for what ever reason will be forced to buy gold at high price. The only thing that really gave it a boost is the rank 9 sale that everyone wants but other than that Gold Seller Just Got Smart about selling and realized people have "No Choice" but to buy gold at the high price if U cant buy Zen. Lets Face it u have gold and you realize u can sell it at 1M 1.5M or 2M and what ever price you put people will be forced to buy of course you pick highest price. Seen how this is a trend I would not be surprised if Gold Doubled in price by next year. And if you take a look at the crop/players pwi brings in its for the most part players who like F2P, so that means they cant buy zen so they are forced to buy from zen buyers. If that's the case Zen Buyers rule the economy. I don't blame the sellers tho they pay so they have every right to put the gold at certain price don't like it don't buy. Or are you know just realizing most F2P is really Pay to Win? Either way all of this is just a result of "Gold Seller Getting Smarter"b:victory

I've warned about this when nation wars came out. You all made your beds.... go lay in them. The only thing that will lower gold prices now is to introduce more things ingame that are farmable and hold a decent amount of value.

I actually sell quite a bit a gold and for a while I stopped selling because the prices were just too low, especially when compared to how much items would sell for in catshops. So instead I just used the gold to buy the items I wanted directly out of the boutique. I have a feeling many other gold sellers were doing the same thing. I'm basically trading real money for the equivalent of monopoly money. If I sell it too low, then I'm just ripping myself off. I am selling gold now, but I'm being smart about it; I never put more than 20 or 30 in at a time. By slowly filtering it in over time I can sell more and at a higher price. If gold prices do drop too far, once again I'll stop selling until they go back up. But I doubt it will drop too far. Now that people know gold will sell at a higher price (and for such a long time) they would have to be very foolish to willingly sell it lower.

bobyjoee wrote: »

Actually both those above statements hold some truth, the gold sellers do think in a long term, the prices of gold aren't always so high, its been under 1mil like 970k around when NW (on arch server) started so they adjust the prices accordingly, right now everyone is rushing to buy their r9 while the sale is on so the gold prices go up, after this all blows over they will eventually go down. If no one is buying it, the csers are out of luck. , so I don't think them being "smarter" is the case. Gold prices go up because of supply and demand, so many people want gold because of the sale going on and naturally they go up. and once everyone on the server has r9 they will go down.


Another thing is, with the current joy packs that are all the rage, everyone wants the gold coins and since that pack contains no tokens not many tokens are being sold so there prices go up. Everything on the server is influenced by the price of gold and how much tokens cost. Zhenning right now is 4mil, usually its 2mil Everything goes up to make up for the recent price increase so the best thing right now is to hide and wait until they go down b:chuckle

Supply and Demand b:chuckle yeah that is a important factor but eventually let face it like the above person said real money for monopoly money is not fun for Gold Sellers. Supply and Demand will always be a factor but Gold Seller will eventually want more for their buck. And will only sell gold if its profitable if not just use it in boutique. That's why I said even after the whole R9 "Demand" is over ppl are getting used to getting more for their gold that wont drop to much eventally Gold Price will start getting high and higher. Anyways I don't buy to much gold but I can understand if ppl who do want more monopoly money for real money.b:victory

Idk nobody can say for sure right now, we will have to wait till R9 items are off the boutique to test the Supply & Demand theory, personally I don't believe Gold will drop even after R9 is off the market. But if it does kudos, doubt it tho. Anyways we will have to wait and see. But I'll stick to what I said earlyer people will want more for their buck and if gold is getting higher that means someone is buying the Gold so I guess we can't say no one will buy Gold. People are like I said forced to if they want something, If I look at it from the sellers perspective I say it's not hard to let your Gold sit there high priced till its bought. I would not mind. Anyways lets wait till R9 "Demand" is over and if Gold Price Drops kudos. Doubt it tho I think we all feel the pressure of seller not budging on Gold Price.b:avoid