Really.... why am I getting the same BH rewards for almost 3 WEEKS

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archoeyrda#7167
archoeyrda#7167 Posts: 53 Arc User
edited October 2013 in General Discussion
*SOBS* It's really unfair, I do BH's everyday for 3-4 hours a day and that's all I can get? Chips, sockets and orbs?! OMG! I am not rich to buy zen like the others do. I even bought last week 1000 zen which I thought it would be enough for me to buy alot of boutique items lol but when I transferred my zen to PWI.. only to realize that the half of my allowance is only worth 10golds. It's been more than 2 weeks like this, and i am broke. What is even worse is.. it is always BH Lunar in which I can only join if someone is doing it for free unless I will be doing the normal lunar and pay 500k and get chips for it wow!*dies* >___< DID THEY REMOVE THOSE 2 CARDS or REDUCED THE PERCENTAGE OF GETTING IT TO .0001%?? SHIZZZ!!! >.<
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    jinnight721 wrote: »
    *SOBS* It's really unfair, I do BH's everyday for 3-4 hours a day and that's all I can get? Chips, sockets and orbs?! OMG! I am not rich to buy zen like the others do. I even bought last week 1000 zen which I thought it would be enough for me to buy alot of boutique items lol but when I transferred my zen to PWI.. only to realize that the half of my allowance is only worth 10golds. It's been more than 2 weeks like this, and i am broke.

    >Not selling your Gold in AH/over WC for coin
    >Relying heavily on BH Rewards for coin


    Come on, OP. Try other avenues.

    What is even worse is.. it is always BH Lunar in which I can only join if someone is doing it for free unless I will be doing the normal lunar and pay 500k and get chips for it wow!*dies* >___< DID THEY REMOVE THOSE 2 CARDS or REDUCED THE PERCENTAGE OF GETTING IT TO .0001%?? SHIZZZ!!! >.<
    >Thinking a streak of bad luck means that the rates have been reduced
    I've gone for two or so weeks without doing BH and make coin just fine with other means. Rates haven't changed. but you can't really expect to get money cards on any given day either (quite the contrary - you can go for long periods of time without seeing one of the two).
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  • DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver
    DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    Orbs were removed from rewards anyway... like 3 weeks ago? or 2?
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Orbs were removed from rewards anyway... like 3 weeks ago? or 2?

    And as a result the rate of cards actually went up.

    Btw, if your server is like mine then "free" lunar runs are always a scam. People don't offer "free" runs unless the EoD (or EoDs) are worth more than the 3 mil entry fee, in which case your share would be bigger than the Lunar entry. In other words, you're paying them to let you farm for them.
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  • archoeyrda#7167
    archoeyrda#7167 Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    LOL! i just got it awhile ago when i did my BH today together with chips again (BH1 and 2) then sobs and quitted :DD
  • Tetream - Lost City
    Tetream - Lost City Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    And as a result the rate of cards actually went up.
    No. Before the change we had a 5% chance for orb of cultivation and a 25% chance for mysterious chips. With last patch they removed the orbs and increased chance for chips to 30%.
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Btw, if your server is like mine then "free" lunar runs are always a scam. People don't offer "free" runs unless the EoD (or EoDs) are worth more than the 3 mil entry fee, in which case your share would be bigger than the Lunar entry. In other words, you're paying them to let you farm for them.

    That's not a scam. They pay 3m and have to make profit on their own risk. It also takes time to sell something = those ppl need a stable connection for a shop or waste teles to sell their EoDs. You can also decide if you WANT to help a person or not. Free BH Lunar is not that bad, because you always get three basic badges in addition.

    @OP
    I get same BH100 rewards as always, sometimes I have a lucky streak for a while, sometimes a losing streak. On a long run it does match with the percentages on pwdatabase.com.
  • HideYoHubby - Archosaur
    HideYoHubby - Archosaur Posts: 995 Arc User
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    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    And as a result the rate of cards actually went up.

    Btw, if your server is like mine then "free" lunar runs are always a scam. People don't offer "free" runs unless the EoD (or EoDs) are worth more than the 3 mil entry fee, in which case your share would be bigger than the Lunar entry. In other words, you're paying them to let you farm for them.

    Meh, I wouldnt consider it scam. Setting up squad takes effort & resources like teles. You always have the risk of random jerk taking your EoD. Archos EoDs are ~3m currently, bit over it, during last 2 months I have bought bout 25 EoDs for 2.8-2.5m on my shop from the ones who just want to get rid of said mats. I am tempted to see how low I can go before people stop selling to me completely. Then again already sitting at 50 EoDs I guess I am exaggerating the need of re-rolls I need by a bit for my archer, granted I should be able to sell most extras easy enough for profit if some update wont **** me over hard.

    All in all, free lunars are risk free way to get your BH reward, ones paying end up with slightly more but also carry all the risks.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    Just some bad luck. It happens to everyone.

    Also, I'd suggest trying to find other ways to make coin because BH is not a very reliable source of income.
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  • HideYoHubby - Archosaur
    HideYoHubby - Archosaur Posts: 995 Arc User
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    Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Just some bad luck. It happens to everyone.

    Also, I'd suggest trying to find other ways to make coin because BH is not a very reliable source of income.

    Its bout 900k/BH1, stack em with BH2s and 2nd talisman for bit higher coin reward on average. Lucky/unlucky streaks happen but I consider 27m/month decent enough to participate. Not to mention if one has fairy boxes and needs keys. 7,7k boxes to go, 7,7k boxes to go, if I open one only 7699 boxes to goooo.
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  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
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    Excuse me? I've had 5 weeks of chips (1 orb, 2 times mirages and 3-4 sockets), doing daily bhs a few months ago, so you've got it good.
    Those cards aren't going to pop up for everyone, every day, it's random, and you might go a long way before you see them.
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  • Lolgasmic - Raging Tide
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide Posts: 1,315 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    If you hit rock bottom and can't afford much of anything, try doing the free zen surveys.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
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    HideYoHubby - Archosaur wrote: »
    Its bout 900k/BH1, stack em with BH2s and 2nd talisman for bit higher coin reward on average. Lucky/unlucky streaks happen but I consider 27m/month decent enough to participate. Not to mention if one has fairy boxes and needs keys. 7,7k boxes to go, 7,7k boxes to go, if I open one only 7699 boxes to goooo.

    I never implied stopping doing BHs but that alone is not always enough especially if you end up in a bad luck steak.
    All this considering that you don't have an army of alts to farm BH with like some people do. Judging by the OP's post, I highly doubt they have such a thing.

    It's usually better if you have more than one way of making money. Merely a suggestion.
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  • Keyborne - Raging Tide
    Keyborne - Raging Tide Posts: 67 Arc User
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    @ the OP - what gave you the idea bh100 was for coin farming?

    PWI should go back to when it was hard to get to 100 without a means of coin farming. Now everyone n their pet poodles thinks they should and will get to 100 and then do bh and make coin to buy gear and end up dying 5x in a bh run cos they undergeared.

    And i dont mean they NEEd to have T2/T3/R9 but just the other day i saw a 102 seeker with 5.5k+ hp (TT90s/FC green 85s with random element shards). - Yeah that works in FC but meh it makes you not want to play when you see that in your bh squad
  • TCHP - Lost City
    TCHP - Lost City Posts: 577 Arc User
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    Sound about right for me, I use to do it every day for a while to, and I rarely got any cards.

    Then I stop to play the game for a while and came back, and I got a card every day for a week.

    These thing are just random, sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't.
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  • Gyurakzoltan - Archosaur
    Gyurakzoltan - Archosaur Posts: 683 Arc User
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    Yes Cards are nerfed, like alot of other stuff ingame, pwi goes on the dark side and started to pull money on serious way from its players, a lil more time and it will be a pay game, true it will not survive in that genre, but hell who are we to judge them, everyone needs to make money to survive this cruel world b:thanks
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  • SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear
    SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear Posts: 703 Arc User
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    Nah they aren't needed because I get on a daily average of 2 mill and 5 mill cards and I have 9 going on 10 toon that I usually run bh's on and sometimes I don't even do all my Alts bh.I guess I'm just lucky.i rarely see cultivation orbs though :(
  • GlenRoss - Archosaur
    GlenRoss - Archosaur Posts: 430 Arc User
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    SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Nah they aren't needed because I get on a daily average of 2 mill and 5 mill cards and I have 9 going on 10 toon that I usually run bh's on and sometimes I don't even do all my Alts bh.I guess I'm just lucky.i rarely see cultivation orbs though :(

    And you won't.
    As mentioned a little higher up in the thread, orbs of cultivation are no longer among the rewards you can obtain from bh100.
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  • STrickeeN - Harshlands
    STrickeeN - Harshlands Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    just bad luck man i have 29m worth of those cards..
  • MagicEmpress - Lost City
    MagicEmpress - Lost City Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    It's luck.
    One week I get lots of cards, the next chips/sockets/chips.

    I got 3 toons I normally do BHs on.
    Two weeks ago cards like crazy, actually had cards 8/9 times for 3 days (all the 2 mil kind).
    Then last week socket stones and chips every time.
    This week cards coming strong again.

    So they took the orbs out...
    I was wondering why I haven't gotten those in awhile.
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  • Smiliess - Heavens Tear
    Smiliess - Heavens Tear Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    all talk bout it if its good, wel. lemme tel u this.

    1: DQ35 items were 4650 worth, 5 years ago
    2: droprate has been reduced like (censored)
    3: items from packs are highly reduced
    4: mobs hardly drop any dq items (at 1x droprate)
    5: there is not a GM online anymore.
    6: chips as a bh100 reward is, redicculous, (because u want nirvana/r8/r9 gear

    Point is: pwi is very expensive, and u may not earn any coin in game.
    lower DQ items dont even have a value
    if they see u make coins in this game, they wil reduce everything.

    i play this game for 5 years now, and they dont give a chit if u like it or not.
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  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    SylenThunder - Twilight Temple Posts: 7,908
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    Smiliess - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    all talk bout it if its good, wel. lemme tel u this.

    1: DQ35 items were 4650 worth, 5 years ago
    Which got the prices nerfed thanks to the heavy botting on the PW-CN servers. You know, the place our files come from. As compensation, we were given the DQ point system.
    2: droprate has been reduced like (censored)
    Droprate of what, where? I've already proven that the drop rate for TT was never altered. You got something else you want me to check on?
    3: items from packs are highly reduced
    Items from packs are the same as they have always been. It's a gamble, and there's an awfully high chance to just get tokens. Different packs have different rates, but none of them have ever been changed.
    4: mobs hardly drop any dq items (at 1x droprate)
    The drop the same as they always have. Try killing mobs your level.
    5: there is not a GM online anymore.
    Finally you speak truth. Back in the day, we had 3 games and 12 GM's with a few thousand players across them. Now we have 14 games and only 25 GM's with a few milion players across them. You try having free time supporting that.
    6: chips as a bh100 reward is, redicculous, (because u want nirvana/r8/r9 gear
    No, actually it's not. It's very helpful to be able to chip gold mats for my alts gear, which is likely what the intention of this was. Just like some of the other rewards. The BH2 rewards are designed to be stashed to alts.

    Point is: pwi is very expensive, and u may not earn any coin in game.
    It's an F2P title, nothing new here. You can earn loads of coin, if you're smart, and you don't even have to be OP with SC gear to do it.
    lower DQ items dont even have a value
    They shouldn't. Remember the botting issue we mentioned earlier?
    if they see u make coins in this game, they wil reduce everything.
    It's designed that way on purpose, most F2P titles are as they get older, and new coin sinks are introduced. If everyone farms coins and doesn't open their wallets, the game and the company supporting it will die.

    i play this game for 5 years now, and they dont give a chit if u like it or not.
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    If you've played for 5 years, how come you get so many of your statements wrong?

    Also, at the OP, it's **** luck, It's always **** luck. So you have **** luck for 3 weeks. Get over it.
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  • SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear
    SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear Posts: 703 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    Just made another 9 mill in cards last night and over a mill in miragesb:pleased
  • Lenaura - Sanctuary
    Lenaura - Sanctuary Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    Reason I don't do BH's anymore. not worth it. Yes you might get a card but more often then not you end up with chips or socket stones. One you cant sell, the second sells for pittance. Niether coves the cost of mp food, or charm ticks. Better off spending the time quietly farming herbs or doing morai
  • SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear
    SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear Posts: 703 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    Your wrong.

    1.Chips can be gathered eventually you can make GST.Also can use chips to get gold mats to use or sell,also can use chips to buy popular molds(weapons and rings) to craft and sell in store.The misty rings are selling for over 1.5-2mill eash so that's like over double profit)
    2.Socket stones yes have devalued over time but 5k each is still good if you collect a lot like I do on alts to sell,also saves you money in the long run to use for your own toon.So in fact chips make wayyy more than socket stones.
    3.Charms are made to tick,but in my opinion they are a waste of coin and give people(that worry about coin) a headache.
    4.MP pots cheap as hell,hp pots I buy a few from time to time and they last me a while,also try doing divine blue/purple quest because I gain 1000's of pots that way and that saves money.
    5.Grinding your missing out on any potential on making any coin,your not going to make much grinding mobs and being bored all day long,though herbs are great profit (if your selling in your own shop)though the shops that tend to buy are paying so cheap and making big gains off of you.

    got alts?lvl 100+? do your bh's because they do pay out even if you don't get cards.

    the end.

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