Does Barbarian do decent damage in PvP?

last nw, i had the pleassure to fight against a r9rr barb, he has 48k hp, it was 3 vs 1, r9 veno+r9rr cleric + me (r9r bm) against him, after 10 mins he ended killing the veno and cleric wiht armagedon, he died when veno and cleric came bk, but........it was imposible for me to kill him alone, even more in one moment he purged me and almost killed me. End game gears barb are terrible, couse of the amount of hp they have, and as they can go full str build, they can reach 30k dmg easily. sooo u have the perfect balance there, between dmg and best tank in game. barbs can switch from full defensive (tiger from,invoke) to full ofensive in a blink of an eye.

Maybe i should not comment since i am only a G16+7 barb. The last time i did any PvP, my weapon was still +4 actually. So i dont have any end game gear experience.

But my numbers, which are very common numbers show the first issue: While most classes first goal is to get a +10 G16/R9 weapon and then maybe start thinking about their armors, barbs usually do the opposite. So that leaves all the mid level barbs pretty weak on damage output.

Then there is the same thing with stat build. Many barbs when they are lvl 100 start out with a high vit build, often even just minimal str to carry their weapon. When they reach endgame, they restat to full str or str/dex. Other classes on the other hand often start with a minimal vit build going for the glass cannon aproach.

Finally comes armageddon. I never use it in PvP except when im fooling around a little. Simply because it this point with my 23k HPs, it isnt gonna kill anyone. Not even when they are at 60% health. Maybe if id have some lucky crit, i might sometimes be able to kill a half health caster. If i'd be charmed, i might be more inclined to use it, but like most mid geared people, i dont use charms. Charms start to be worth their while in end game toons.

So i think barbs have the potential to be heavy hitters but mostly so on endgame level. I know some end game barbs can be pretty feared. But the general mid-game barb population have a low damage output.

Berserkers wrath yes is the nice exception. This works nice even for me with my +4 axe. But ye, you need a flying caster for it to be good and well we need something really good to hit those flying casters because without our speed advantage, it is very rare to get close enough to them to hit them with anything else.

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

Maybe i should not comment since i am only a G16+7 barb. The last time i did any PvP, my weapon was still +4 actually. So i dont have any end game gear experience.

But my numbers, which are very common numbers show the first issue: While most classes first goal is to get a +10 G16/R9 weapon and then maybe start thinking about their armors, barbs usually do the opposite. So that leaves all the mid level barbs pretty weak on damage output.

Then there is the same thing with stat build. Many barbs when they are lvl 100 start out with a high vit build, often even just minimal str to carry their weapon. When they reach endgame, they restat to full str or str/dex. Other classes on the other hand often start with a minimal vit build going for the glass cannon aproach.

Finally comes armageddon. I never use it in PvP except when im fooling around a little. Simply because it this point with my 23k HPs, it isnt gonna kill anyone. Not even when they are at 60% health. Maybe if id have some lucky crit, i might sometimes be able to kill a half health caster. If i'd be charmed, i might be more inclined to use it, but like most mid geared people, i dont use charms. Charms start to be worth their while in end game toons.

So i think barbs have the potential to be heavy hitters but mostly so on endgame level. I know some end game barbs can be pretty feared. But the general mid-game barb population have a low damage output.

Berserkers wrath yes is the nice exception. This works nice even for me with my +4 axe. But ye, you need a flying caster for it to be good and well we need something really good to hit those flying casters because without our speed advantage, it is very rare to get close enough to them to hit them with anything else.

Agreed with Beserker's Wrath, I've hit as high as 60k I think. (Lucky zerk or crit I guess, I don't usually look up to see)

I've had decent experience with armageddon, but it's a tricky skill to use in PvP.... It's an all-or-nothing ace up the sleeve. For the most part I prefer saving the sparks, but it's a very-very good opening skill when one rushes into the middle of a group of enemies. I've learned it's a good clearing skill, not necessarily a killing skill. Nobody is dumb enough to sit around tank arma.

That depends on who you are fighting, at end game barb damage output is enough to kill every class apart from end game seekers, for them you gotta rely on luck a lot more than you already do lol.

tweakz wrote: »

Every class in this game is good dd in their own ways. Barbs just make for cheap tanks.

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