Warsoul Weapons Recast
delmar40
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First, I want to apologize if I posted this thread in the wrong category. I wasn't exactly sure where it should go. Any way, I have a couple questions about warsoul recast weapon specifically the Lunar Dissectors daggers because I have them. I have +10 ws daggers and I finally farmed everything to recast. According to pwidatabase I can get 100+http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/36514 attack levels . I wanted to know if that is true? If it is not true, what is the point of recast when the stats are virtually the same, you won't see much of a damage difference between the regular dagger and the recast ones. http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/26053
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If I remember right, we dont get the "Unidentified" part of the Warsoul weapon recasts, so you'll only get up to ~65 attack levels and the other stats.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Remember: OP may be a duck|OP/GMs/Devs may not deliver|Search function is your friend|Lurk more|Be wary of Mods: they can't be trusted|This place isn't a hugbox|Your tears sustain me|Know what Bait is|"Soon" may never come|Postcount, Dubs, and other GETs are important|Don't revive long dead threads|There is a section for everything|You can be banned for anything|No Fun Allowed outside of OT|Sweetiebot rules OT|"Circlejerks" are inevitable|Threads can be derailed and saved|Those who use"XD" should off themselves at their earliest convenience|0
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Hmmmm, the additional attack lvl doesn't show up.0
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PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »to show off how much you fail at economics.
You are a horrible troll please go back to your cave, you don't belong on the forums. I don't understand where I failed economics, the weapon only cost me 270 mil + 3412 supply tokens. Which is about 543mil on Heaven's Tear server if you sell tokens at 80k each. Before you say, "Oh rank 9 is better and it cost less". Let me stop you in your tracks. Last time I checked rank 9 cost more than 543mil(329USD) or for me 270mil(164USD). Ring requires 5 medal of glory and 32 gst. Weapon requires 5 medal of glory + 85 gst.
So lets crunch some numbers real quick.
117 gst x 6,000,000(HT prices)=702,000,000.
8 MoG x 22,000,000(HT prices)= 176,000,000.
That is 878mil right there. But wait, we are not done yet. Don't forget you need 300k rep.
Which will cost you between 150mil -157mil on Heaven's Tear because you need 12k wraith badges.
So now that brings your grand total for a rank 9 weapon with no recast or refines to 1,028,000,000 in HT or 623 USD if the gold prices are 1,650,000 each.
So please tell me how a r9 weapon for 1bill or 623USD is better choice than a WS weapon. Keep in mind the r9 weapon will have no recast, no set bonus, no refines, and no gems. With the money you save with the WS wep you can refine it to +11, gem it, and buy some gear after that. Oh and it is tradeable b:victory . So next time do your research before you come on forums talking down to some one , when you have no idea what you are talking about.0 -
1. you buy r9 during sales.
2. if you are choosing the cheap/tradable route, you can get a +12 g16 weapons for 300-500m. even cheaper for +10.you only purge once #yopo0 -
So lets crunch some numbers real quick.
117 gst x 6,000,000(HT prices)=702,000,000.
8 MoG x 22,000,000(HT prices)= 176,000,000.
That is 878mil right there. But wait, we are not done yet. Don't forget you need 300k rep.
Which will cost you between 150mil -157mil on Heaven's Tear because you need 12k wraith badges.
>Buying GSTs/MoGs at off-sale prices
ISHYGDDT
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Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »>Buying GSTs/MoGs at off-sale prices
ISHYGDDT
By the way, you can use Morai Reputation pills and BH2 Errantry badges to cut the costs of rep, and thats just two ways of working towards the 300k needed.
hey, on second thought, everyone should do that. preferably by buying my catshop's mogs+gsts!you only purge once #yopo0 -
You really go out of the way to feed the damn troll?You are a horrible troll please go back to your cave, you don't belong on the forums. I don't understand where I failed economics, the weapon only cost me 270 mil + 3412 supply tokens. Which is about 543mil on Heaven's Tear server if you sell tokens at 80k each. Before you say, "Oh rank 9 is better and it cost less". Let me stop you in your tracks. Last time I checked rank 9 cost more than 543mil(329USD) or for me 270mil(164USD). Ring requires 5 medal of glory and 32 gst. Weapon requires 5 medal of glory + 85 gst.
So lets crunch some numbers real quick.
117 gst x 6,000,000(HT prices)=702,000,000.
8 MoG x 22,000,000(HT prices)= 176,000,000.
That is 878mil right there. But wait, we are not done yet. Don't forget you need 300k rep.
Which will cost you between 150mil -157mil on Heaven's Tear because you need 12k wraith badges.
So now that brings your grand total for a rank 9 weapon with no recast or refines to 1,028,000,000 in HT or 623 USD if the gold prices are 1,650,000 each.
So please tell me how a r9 weapon for 1bill or 623USD is better choice than a WS weapon. Keep in mind the r9 weapon will have no recast, no set bonus, no refines, and no gems. With the money you save with the WS wep you can refine it to +11, gem it, and buy some gear after that. Oh and it is tradeable b:victory . So next time do your research before you come on forums talking down to some one , when you have no idea what you are talking about.0 -
PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »1. you buy r9 during sales.
2. if you are choosing the cheap/tradable route, you can get a +12 g16 weapons for 300-500m. even cheaper for +10.
First, off no hard feelings. All respect to you for voicing your opinion and such. Also I wasn't really going for the cheapest, I just brought the r9 prices in the equation because people often say on the server, "lol, you should have got r9" when it cost x2 more. I got my rank 9 for my seeker on sale and it was still more expensive than a WS wep, but the sale did save me a lot of $$$. I guess at the end of the day it just depends on the person. Some will say g16 because its cheap, some rank 9 because of GoF, and then you have me with WS because it is in the middle and different
. This whole thread was about the recast, which I'm disappointed in. I guess I will use them on my 80 sin for tournaments and soloing FF. Pretty much average daggers after lvl 100 since you can't get 100+ attack lvls. Basically a joke at lvl 100+ when you have r9s3 (as we say on HT) daggers and g16 daggers with x2 int on them. Hopefully they will make them more relevant in the near future and also redo Nirvy while they are at it. 0 -
All I'mma say is,
G16 +10 with gem(s) with full +7 armor with incomparable cits >>>>>>> Warsoul recast +0 unsharded with no coin left for armor ggChannels
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You are a horrible troll please go back to your cave, you don't belong on the forums. I don't understand where I failed economics, the weapon only cost me 270 mil + 3412 supply tokens. Which is about 543mil on Heaven's Tear server if you sell tokens at 80k each. Before you say, "Oh rank 9 is better and it cost less". Let me stop you in your tracks. Last time I checked rank 9 cost more than 543mil(329USD) or for me 270mil(164USD). Ring requires 5 medal of glory and 32 gst. Weapon requires 5 medal of glory + 85 gst.
So lets crunch some numbers real quick.
117 gst x 6,000,000(HT prices)=702,000,000.
8 MoG x 22,000,000(HT prices)= 176,000,000.
That is 878mil right there. But wait, we are not done yet. Don't forget you need 300k rep.
Which will cost you between 150mil -157mil on Heaven's Tear because you need 12k wraith badges.
So now that brings your grand total for a rank 9 weapon with no recast or refines to 1,028,000,000 in HT or 623 USD if the gold prices are 1,650,000 each.
So please tell me how a r9 weapon for 1bill or 623USD is better choice than a WS weapon. Keep in mind the r9 weapon will have no recast, no set bonus, no refines, and no gems. With the money you save with the WS wep you can refine it to +11, gem it, and buy some gear after that. Oh and it is tradeable b:victory . So next time do your research before you come on forums talking down to some one , when you have no idea what you are talking about.
if the gold price is at 1.65M :
8 x 1 650 000 x 10 x 1.02 (ah fee) = 134M
117 x 1 650 000 x 2.4 x 1.02 = 472M
and rep should be around 100M
so 700M for ring + weap. and there you the end game ring you can upgrade later and the weapon0 -
Which is about 543mil on Heaven's Tear server if you sell tokens at 80k each. Before you say, "Oh rank 9 is better and it cost less". Let me stop you in your tracks. Last time I checked rank 9 cost more than 543mil(329USD) or for me 270mil(164USD). Ring requires 5 medal of glory and 32 gst. Weapon requires 5 medal of glory + 85 gst.
So lets crunch some numbers real quick.
117 gst x 6,000,000(HT prices)=702,000,000.
8 MoG x 22,000,000(HT prices)= 176,000,000.
That is 878mil right there. But wait, we are not done yet. Don't forget you need 300k rep.
Which will cost you between 150mil -157mil on Heaven's Tear because you need 12k wraith badges.
lets stop being disingenuous, the sale just ended where they were MAX GST for 4.3m, i even got plenty for 4 on HT, the MoGs were 16.5-17m each
unless you suck, youre getting the r9 ring anyway to s2 it
so the real cost of r9 wep is 85*4.2 +5*17 = ~450m, or 100m cheaper than your warsoul
more power and cheaper, my goodness!
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Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »All I'mma say is,
G16 +10 with gem(s) with full +7 armor with incomparable cits >>>>>>> Warsoul recast +0 unsharded with no coin left for armor gg
I upgraded from g16 +10 to r9.3 +10.
R9.3>WS.2>G16 for PvP. Even with the cost of g16 why spend money on it if ur gonna upgrade later, and you have the money for a better wep? Ofc don't neglect your armor, r9.3>g16 >.>. It's honestly not too much more expensive imo. But to the OP. Are you going for cheap, or bang for your buck?0 -
Let me set the record straight, i didn't check math
GST = 2.4 gold
Mog = 10 Gold
3 MOG + 32 GST = ring
5 Mog + 85 GST = weapon
Ring cost = Mog cost [30 gold] + GST cost [76.8 gold] = 106.8 Gold
Weapon cost = Mog Cost [50 gold] + GST cost [204 gold] = 254 Gold
254 + 106.8 = 360.8 Gold, make that 361.
Now you have two routes, farm coins or use real money.
Since i am a merchant, merchants will use the best route possible (assumption). I will buy gold in feburary~july at 1.2m gold (what ever your lowest gold price is on your server during those months).
361 x 1.2 x 1.02 = 442m coins roughly.
If you do weapon only, 311m is the cost of weapon only.
Assume you had bad timing. 1.6m gold = 589M
I prefer the 440m mark myself, i get gold at 1~1.1m on sanctuary during low weeks.
Now let's move on to zen, since r9 3rd cast people are dirty cash shoppers b:dirty
50 dollars = 6050 zen
100 zen = 1 gold.
1$ = 1.21 gold.
361 gold / 1.21 = 298.35 dollars best to go 300 dollars.
If you do weapon only, that is 210 dollars.
Now you guys can continue on about failed economics.
Personally i don't see the use of warsoul weapons as endgame, simply because of progression, if they do not get a new set coming out soon in the next expansion. That means warsoul weapon weilders are 1~2 content updates behind the rest of the curve. 1~2 expansion = 8~16 months. That is enough time to farm a whole new weapon if not a set.0 -
So lets crunch some numbers real quick.
117 gst x 6,000,000(HT prices)=702,000,000.
8 MoG x 22,000,000(HT prices)= 176,000,000.
That is 878mil right there. But wait, we are not done yet. Don't forget you need 300k rep.
Which will cost you between 150mil -157mil on Heaven's Tear because you need 12k wraith badges.
If people want a warsoul weapon, more power to them but they need to stop labeling R9 with absurd amount of coin/gold required.
We've had plenty of 50% off sales the past few months and a lot of people got their R9s. Nobody buys R9 off sale. Another thing is that, it doesn't have to be all at once either (for those who want both armor and weapon).
Unless the gold on HT is absurdly high, the prices you listed are unrealistic.[SIGPIC]http://i.imgur.com/MtwcqjL.png[/SIGPIC]
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What if you wanted the second best endgame weapon because of the looks and you rather take your preferred weapon type over what R9 offers for the class, and you know and live with the disadvantages (like a little higher price, a little less effective)?
Bam... all economics fail there.World is full of illusions.
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Fryvorg - Sanctuary wrote: »What if you wanted the second best endgame weapon because of the looks and you rather take your preferred weapon type over what R9 offers for the class, and you know and live with the disadvantages (like a little higher price, a little less effective)?
Bam... all economics fail there.
I'd say at least 75% of the reason I made my warsoul bow was because of the way it looked. rrr9 bow is ugly as hell. As a female, I would not even want to be seen carrying it. Plus the warsoul bow matches my wings. +1 for matching accessories. I easily could have bought R9, but I wanted something pretty and shiny.AstriaFae
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Toraah - Archosaur wrote: »I thought the reason people got warsoul weapons was because they looked really cool. xD
i can say for myself if i get warsoul is cos i want the warsong pole
rank always been predetermined wish in my book is terrible
that is if i do get it.... right now focusing on refine my AA pole bm then maybe ill get it....
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Fryvorg - Sanctuary wrote: »What if you wanted the second best endgame weapon because of the looks and you rather take your preferred weapon type over what R9 offers for the class, and you know and live with the disadvantages (like a little higher price, a little less effective)?
Bam... all economics fail there.
it's the same with people having tons of pure white/black/red fashion sets and tt90+3.
and it's not a bit less effective, it's a bit better than g16 at the cost of r9rr (or a bit less).you only purge once #yopo0 -
Yes, they have different goals than becoming the best, with the exception that ws actually makes them stronger in a fight, as well.PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »it's the same with people having tons of pure white/black/red fashion sets and tt90+3.
Well, I was speaking for the recasted version. I'd say, recasted ws weapons are rather in the mid of the two other options.PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »and it's not a bit less effective, it's a bit better than g16 at the cost of r9rr (or a bit less).World is full of illusions.
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Fryvorg - Sanctuary wrote: »Yes, they have different goals than becoming the best, with the exception that ws actually makes them stronger in a fight, as well.
As a sin you not having the best hampers your ability to kill, where as archers can get away with it due to 30-35m range. Sometimes effieciency is better than looks, especially in this case. Archers get purge and int, but they also have other bows they can use for that. Where as GoF on the r9rr wep will always win over the WS. Even more so when it zerks or zerk crits.
I can see he wants to be different, but the cost is too great because of the fact we are not a ranged class. You pay for it even more if you kill slower. If looks are that important, use a weapon skin ffs.0 -
Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »lets stop being disingenuous, the sale just ended where they were MAX GST for 4.3m, i even got plenty for 4 on HT, the MoGs were 16.5-17m each
unless you suck, youre getting the r9 ring anyway to s2 it
so the real cost of r9 wep is 85*4.2 +5*17 = ~450m, or 100m cheaper than your warsoul
more power and cheaper, my goodness!
also your rep badge price is bull
hey Mosz I know you think you know everything but you forgot 1 tiny detail... to get the rank 9 weapon...YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RANK 9 RING, there is no choosing. but I do agree id rather have r9 than warsoul any day. So even tho he saved money by getting warsoul instead of rank 9 he woulda been better off with rank 9 in a pvp sense because warsoul doesn't get set bonuses like rank 9 does
(85 +32)*4.2m + (5+3)*17m = X
X = value of items
(491.4mil) + (136mil) =627.4mil at prices stated[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Crones - Heavens Tear wrote: »hey Mosz I know you think you know everything but you forgot 1 tiny detail... to get the rank 9 weapon...YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RANK 9 RING, there is no choosing. but I do agree id rather have r9 than warsoul any day. So even tho he saved money by getting warsoul instead of rank 9 he woulda been better off with rank 9 in a pvp sense because warsoul doesn't get set bonuses like rank 9 does
(85 +32)*4.2m + (5+3)*17m = X
X = value of items
(491.4mil) + (136mil) =627.4mil at prices stated
in what you quoted i clearly stated
>unless you suck, youre getting the r9 ring anyway to s2 it
including r9 ring price in r9 wep price is like calculating the time or cost of powerlevels required for lvl 100 in your calculation to buy any of these weapons0
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