Why does PWi allow abuseive behavior

LaPetiteMort - Dreamweaver
LaPetiteMort - Dreamweaver Posts: 13 Arc User
edited September 2013 in General Discussion
on the dreamweaver server we have an individual in constant verbal abuse to anyone and everyone. they cross the line on many things to try and insult belittle dehumanize degrade in any way shape or formanyone or anybody. i would like to know why this is allowed a person by the name of -removed- ironically enough does just that. in other games i played this behavior would have meant instant ban with in minutes of it being abusive or degrading others but, here it continues for hours days week months till idk when they decide enough is enough. this person has had 2 other accounts ban i believe perma ban so why not ban it so he can never log in again. allowing this is making me think twice about even being near these kinds of people yet pwi never does anything about them b:angry all we can do is bl until the next toon they make i don't have enough room to ban every single disgusting human that is degrading others.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Did you reported him?

    GM don't read the world chat, if no one report him than there's nothing they can do.
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  • SpiritDivine - Sanctuary
    SpiritDivine - Sanctuary Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I would guess there have been hundreds of reports against the player. Maybe more
  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited August 2013
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited August 2013
    Submit a ticket. Also naming and shaming isn't allowed on the forums.

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  • Nyxsa - Heavens Tear
    Nyxsa - Heavens Tear Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    We have plenty of this in HT especially when it comes to PK folks. Normally blacklisting is the way to go and it makes it much more pleasant without their nonsense. If anything you can either report them then blacklist. If they come back from the ban, do it again. Eventually they should get the hint.
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    OP's post should be considered verbal abuse. it hurts my eyesb:shocked
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Submit a ticket. Also naming and shaming isn't allowed on the forums.

    Why waste time when their solution is to add the person to your black list for you?
    Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited August 2013
    tweakz wrote: »
    Why waste time when their solution is to add the person to your black list for you?

    I have personally submitted tickets and then not seen the person around for a few days, and I've seen people talk about how they got banned before. I'd assume it would take more than a couple of bans to get permanently muted but I do know for a fact that they do. Almost nobody knows how to report it, and I can't the times I've seen someone screeching about a scam in world chat and had to teach them how to submit a ticket. I mean, there are many players that don't even know how their basic skills work let alone how to do stuff on the website.

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  • Mazumii - Dreamweaver
    Mazumii - Dreamweaver Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    basicly, if a person spends real life money they won't get banned i have seen people shout the racail slur (the "N" word) in world chat and I submit tickets with screen shot as did 15 people in the faction i was in, yet 4 hours later they are back playing as normal, now I am free to play strictly, I made a comment in world chat " Hey lets have a dirty joke hour lol j/k" and I got perma banned....reason why, I am a free to play player, so submit tickets all you want but if the person spends real life money, so long as they aren't hacking the game gms, admins, mods won't do anything cause all they care about is you real life money!b:angry
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited August 2013
    basicly, if a person spends real life money they won't get banned i have seen people shout the racail slur (the "N" word) in world chat and I submit tickets with screen shot as did 15 people in the faction i was in, yet 4 hours later they are back playing as normal, now I am free to play strictly, I made a comment in world chat " Hey lets have a dirty joke hour lol j/k" and I got perma banned....reason why, I am a free to play player, so submit tickets all you want but if the person spends real life money, so long as they aren't hacking the game gms, admins, mods won't do anything cause all they care about is you real life money!b:angry

    I am a player just as yourself, not a GM. Mods are not GMs. And tickets typically take 3-5 days to be responded to, although it's true that it seems they have been pretty inconsistent about ban enforcement it is at least worth a try. It is literally two minutes of your time only. Or you could just blacklist them. *shrug*

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  • Mazumii - Dreamweaver
    Mazumii - Dreamweaver Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    *blacklists all admins, mods, gm's, and anyone who has any power in game other than npc and player*...problem solved
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited August 2013
    *blacklists all admins, mods, gm's, and anyone who has any power in game other than npc and player*...problem solved

    Mods have no power in-game.....

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  • MasterPerian - Lost City
    MasterPerian - Lost City Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    its like that everyday in LC, but life goes on.
    What can you expect from filthy little heathens? Their whole disgusting race is like a curse. Their skin's a hellish red they're only good when dead they're vermin, as I said and worse. They're Savages! Savages! Barely even human. Savages! Savages! Drive them from our shore! They're not like you and me
    which means they must be evil we must sound the drums of war! They're Savages! Savages! Dirty redskin devils! Now we sound the drums of war!
  • krisnda
    krisnda Posts: 4,655 Community Moderator
    edited August 2013
    basicly, if a person spends real life money they won't get banned i have seen people shout the racail slur (the "N" word) in world chat and I submit tickets with screen shot as did 15 people in the faction i was in, yet 4 hours later they are back playing as normal

    Not even true, they probobly havent gotten around to it, or you send tickets on the weekend, where it won't get done until the weekday anyway.

    , now I am free to play strictly, I made a comment in world chat " Hey lets have a dirty joke hour lol j/k" and I got perma banned....reason why, I am a free to play player

    So, you want PtP players to get banned for defying the TOS, but complain when you break it as well? You can't have your cake and eat it.

    , so submit tickets all you want but if the person spends real life money, so long as they aren't hacking the game gms, admins, mods won't do anything cause all they care about is you real life money!b:angry

    1. That statement just isn't true at all, not even explaining it again.
    2. Mods are players like you. Venus, Kossy, Skai, and the rest are players we just moderate the forums.


    On another note, I'd hate to close this so lets stop discussing bans please.
  • Mazumii - Dreamweaver
    Mazumii - Dreamweaver Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    basicly submit a ticket if people are being abusive, just remember that nothing is "permanent".b:victory
  • _Thia_ - Dreamweaver
    _Thia_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    PWI lost control of this kind of things long ago, as long as money still cashes in everything is fine and dandy.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    What's the perfect world coming to when even mods can't quote properly, and punishments are inconsistent? It's a waste of time to submit a ticket for stuff like this. IMO there is much bigger fish to fry.
    Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.
  • LolyLove - Raging Tide
    LolyLove - Raging Tide Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    on the dreamweaver server we have an individual in constant verbal abuse to anyone and everyone. they cross the line on many things to try and insult belittle dehumanize degrade in any way shape or formanyone or anybody. i would like to know why this is allowed a person by the name of -removed- ironically enough does just that. in other games i played this behavior would have meant instant ban with in minutes of it being abusive or degrading others but, here it continues for hours days week months till idk when they decide enough is enough. this person has had 2 other accounts ban i believe perma ban so why not ban it so he can never log in again. allowing this is making me think twice about even being near these kinds of people yet pwi never does anything about them b:angry all we can do is bl until the next toon they make i don't have enough room to ban every single disgusting human that is degrading others.

    Easy solution:

    Blacklist

    You wont listen them again anymore and your game experience wont be affected. just take 2 clicks to do it and dont even need to report it. b:chuckle
  • bellecat2
    bellecat2 Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    In words people need to get over them selfs I sorry but GROW UP people. yes some people say things that is not cool. people do things that is not cool. its is a game that realy should be for age 18 and over people. theres hafe naked people running around some showing more then should that's aTOS if any thing . but yay I not mind itnot one bit lol. I not mind the bad talk to I am a grown man. if any thing you all need to know is there is a blacklist I fill mine nonstop lol. each 30 days I del it. thay need to make it biger lol . I know theres lots of people that don't care for me ad I don't care for them people have ther own way of playing the game (THE GAME) IT IS THAT. IF YOU REALY DONT LIKE WHAT GOING ON LOG OFF. hate to put that in a mean way but black list them or log off if your a kid that can not handle it. most of us know whats right and whats worng in life but some people when thay log on a game think a bit diffent that's cool and all this why we play games and to top it off its a role playing game. so plz when you go to send in a tickit think befor you do think have you ever did any thing bad in the game. WE ALL HAVE weather knowing or not. most of us off game are the nicest people you'll ever meet. I know I am I give the shirt off my back my shoes off my feet if you did not have and was in need. but on the game LOOK OUT I AM A HA MYSTIC FULL G16 loging on to play this is my time I loged on for me is the main thing we all did when we frist started playing PWI for the frist time. but plz keep in mind most people do not mean wha thay say even if it is a bad word or W/E. you all know it is easyer to type what we thinking then it is to say it to face to face. face to face might say:C happens kiss kiss.
  • Tigriss_o - Raging Tide
    Tigriss_o - Raging Tide Posts: 625 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    bellecat2 wrote: »
    In words people need to get over them selfs I sorry but GROW UP people. yes some people say things that is not cool. people do things that is not cool. its is a game that realy should be for age 18 and over people. theres hafe naked people running around some showing more then should that's aTOS if any thing . but yay I not mind itnot one bit lol. I not mind the bad talk to I am a grown man. if any thing you all need to know is there is a blacklist I fill mine nonstop lol. each 30 days I del it. thay need to make it biger lol . I know theres lots of people that don't care for me ad I don't care for them people have ther own way of playing the game (THE GAME) IT IS THAT. IF YOU REALY DONT LIKE WHAT GOING ON LOG OFF. hate to put that in a mean way but black list them or log off if your a kid that can not handle it. most of us know whats right and whats worng in life but some people when thay log on a game think a bit diffent that's cool and all this why we play games and to top it off its a role playing game. so plz when you go to send in a tickit think befor you do think have you ever did any thing bad in the game. WE ALL HAVE weather knowing or not. most of us off game are the nicest people you'll ever meet. I know I am I give the shirt off my back my shoes off my feet if you did not have and was in need. but on the game LOOK OUT I AM A HA MYSTIC FULL G16 loging on to play this is my time I loged on for me is the main thing we all did when we frist started playing PWI for the frist time. but plz keep in mind most people do not mean wha thay say even if it is a bad word or W/E. you all know it is easyer to type what we thinking then it is to say it to face to face. face to face might say:C happens kiss kiss.
    Yes Most of us are adults and as Adults we all agreed to the same TOS. We all agreed not to behave soo poorly in game and if we did we agreed to be punished. Bottom line is the TOS needs enforced for everyone. Fact is this isn't an 18+ game. it's a 13+ game and in being so people are expected to keep things kid friendly. Until they make it 18+ you can't expect everyone to act like adults. The kids are gonna do what the OP is complaining about and the GMs need to do their jobs and hand out punishments and teach them it won't be tolorated.

    BTW not always easier to type your thoughts then to say them face to face. Any of my RL friends that play PW games can tell you I speak my mind no matter how big or mean you are.

    I know we aren't supposed to talk about bans on the forums but I gotta say this. And to people saying you won't get banned if your P2P I can tell you that is utter BS. I used to buy Zen all the time and during a month that I spent $130 on the game I got punished for a few days for saying what I thought of Obama. First and last time I had ever done anything that could get me banned in this game.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I know we aren't supposed to talk about bans on the forums but I gotta say this. And to people saying you won't get banned if your P2P I can tell you that is utter BS. I used to buy Zen all the time and during a month that I spent $130 on the game I got punished for a few days for saying what I thought of Obama. First and last time I had ever done anything that could get me banned in this game.

    Maybe you should try not threatening the president's life. 'Cause yeah...that's about the only reason they'd ban you for talking about Obama (and don't think it's just because it's him; they'd do it regardless of who the president was).
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  • Fiery_Demon - Heavens Tear
    Fiery_Demon - Heavens Tear Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I've met a fair share of rude and obnoxious people in game, but I've never sent a ticket. Reason: I'm not sure what can be considered bad enough to report it. People that disturb me are mostly those who swear a lot and intentionally bring their drama on WC instead of pming the person, which would be cheaper and the sensible thing to do. Can this be considered worth sending a ticket? Sometimes it gets a lot worse tho, I'm sure everyone who plays on HT has noticed, and the people chatting probably think they're joking, but it doesn't seem the least bit funny to me. I'm not going to bring an example since they really say things that are disturbing. Next time I see something like it I'm going to report it and hopefully something is done about it.

    PS: An idea crossed my mind: don't we have some people in game who control what's going on on WC and warn the chatters when they're about to cross the line? We definitely need someone like that.
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  • Brillance - Raging Tide
    Brillance - Raging Tide Posts: 1,643 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Regular players can help control what is said in WC, not by going off on the person being abusive, but just by taking the convo somewhere else or even making a joke out of it.

    Start a fake auction of your pickaxe in the middle of it, as an example. If you have plenty of teles and are bored, it can be quite fun. WTS [Pickaxe] c/o 465K, but idk Im very attached to it. Its been with me since I was a baby Mystic."

    Ive actually gotten bids to over a million for mine, and it calms down the smexy, negative or whatever totally annoying convo is going on.

    That's an example, but you can really take their negative chatter and switch it up.

    Recently, I said...

    "Noob Question: How do you turn off WC?"

    After several PMs with suggestions, including the ever famous "uninstall", the smex trolls started talking about not caring if someone BLs them, and getting rather nasty in another way.

    So, I said, "Well, Im told all one has to do is simply use another Chat"

    "see? xD" in Trade Chat. For whatever reason after that they stopped.

    Someone gives you lemons you can always try to make lemonade, or lemon creme cookies, or whatever, lol.

    Setting an underage limit for the game is really not doable, most kids know how to lie on a game app. Parents can stop their children from accessing the game with Parental Controls - but I dont really think a lot of parents bother with that.

    Some parents might play PWI and want their children to play with them - sort of like the way they used to play card games or Monopoly with their own parents/grandparents around the kitchen table years ago. They should be able to reasonably do that in PWI.

    Teles cost a lot now on my server - almost 20K each, but if thats not a problem, people can say stuff themsevles in the middle of whatever it is thats annoying them that wont flame it, but will help end it by simply drowning it out - or being something more interesting.
  • Tigriss_o - Raging Tide
    Tigriss_o - Raging Tide Posts: 625 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Maybe you should try not threatening the president's life. 'Cause yeah...that's about the only reason they'd ban you for talking about Obama (and don't think it's just because it's him; they'd do it regardless of who the president was).

    That's not what I did. I got to cursing I called him a Stupid (bleep) Idiot and his (Bleep) (Bleep) Is gonna destroy this country if we don't impeach the dumb Mother (Bleep) I got a 3 day Vacation so I hung out at the bar Making RL friends lol.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    That's not what I did. I got to cursing I called him a Stupid (bleep) Idiot and his (Bleep) (Bleep) Is gonna destroy this country if we don't impeach the dumb Mother (Bleep) I got a 3 day Vacation so I hung out at the bar Making RL friends lol.

    So you probably called him the N word in all of that which would get you banned anyway regardless of who you were talking about if someone SS'd and reported. 'Cause, you know, being a racist idiot shouldn't be tolerated in this day and age.

    I suggest taking a good look at your life and your choices.


    @Fiery_Demon - GMs on Malay version of PW way back when used to patrol WC and mute people for X amount of time (until they finally stopped caring about that version entirely). Sometimes it was justified and sometimes not so much...
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  • Breannak - Raging Tide
    Breannak - Raging Tide Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I would suggest you watch whatcha say kiddies you never know whose watch for you to slip up in world chat or common chat and private chat! GM might not get to you right away but if more than 1 person spams a ticket about you instant vaction.

    Happens all the time on my server butthurt people go to world chat after they get ganked in pk, or after TW they go at it.
  • Jack_Shadow - Heavens Tear
    Jack_Shadow - Heavens Tear Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I thought perfect world had rules and a code towards these kinds of things... and PWE is very wealthy kind of game publisher. they have the money to hire people to take care of these kinds of problems. but to protest against them you need solid proof if they have mistreated you or any one else for that matter..

    you are basicly saying that PWE's justice is flawed and/or corrupted. well with out proof your objections are meaningless to them.

    now I'm not taking any sides here and I have been here for nearly 6 years. I know the game needs GM's and I know the idea of taken care of issue at hand is rather sloppy but I have complain so much to a point where its pointless to complain any more...

    so the best thing to do is learn to accept the issue at hand and move on. I'm sorry if what I say is consider annoying or pointless. but I been at this game longer than most and I know for a fact what PWE really is...

    I may be banned for saying all of that but I believe I have a right to speak my opinion in this matter and should I be banned just for that then every thing I said would be considerd true...
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  • bobyjoee
    bobyjoee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    you guys need to buy a super blacklist stone, they cost about 5mil and you can blacklist up to 100 different people.

    Yes ive seen mean/unkind/rude people and behavior before and still do, but the thing is, pwe doesnt do anything about it, most players don't do anything about it, nothing is ever done in a timley manner so why try? ive learned to just ignore them.
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I don't know, I think some forms of "abusive speech"(mostly relating to pk/pvp situations) is a sign that a server is active and alive in a healthy way. When everyone is holding hands and singing kumbaya is when I'll be worried because it probably means my server is dead.
  • Riverwell - Archosaur
    Riverwell - Archosaur Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I don't know, I think some forms of "abusive speech"(mostly relating to pk/pvp situations) is a sign that a server is active and alive in a healthy way. When everyone is holding hands and singing kumbaya is when I'll be worried because it probably means my server is dead.

    XD I was thinking the same thing.

    While there's a point where it's taken too far (for example the racist comments, that's not cool, along with other things) some trash-talk is always typical of people who are pvp-ing and whatnot. If it gets to be too much, I just switch over to my faction chat tab (where I have wc disabled) and chill there for awhile.

    However I find it funny to watch those people have ego wars. b:chuckle So usually I just leave it on.
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