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Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
edited June 2014 in Tideswell (East)
3 vs 3 on a mountain near plume.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtTF8z3vfdOHdGpmTmxlSW5oVjU1QTFtYXJoWmtqVFE&usp=sharing

something like this above

with recorded something like this:

http://youtu.be/p2IOKOKZybM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DynxyykDVo

http://youtu.be/0R5wuMH6_ZY

http://youtu.be/pMA0V4itTOM



Rules:
1. Each team cannot have more than 1 person of each class, at choice.
2. Each team can get self-class buffs or potion induced buffs, at the start of each fight.
3. The winner team is determined after 2 out of 3 wins.
4. Matches must be recorded and posted on youtube to be a valid win.
5. Matches must be scheduled during week-ends(13:00 Server time for EU teams, 18-20:00 for EU and NA teams.
6. Every week new entries will be posted on forum and the Tourney will be managed on forum.
7. There will be no entry fees.
8. Flying is allowed. Conceding is allowed if 2/3 members of the other team die.
9. Trash talking and non-fairplay behavior will constitute a reason of being disqualified from the Tourney.
10. Each battle can be recorded by competitors or by blue-named referees who have the ability to record and upload each fight.
11. Resurrection can only be used 1 time per game, either with scroll or from friendly team mate cleric/mystic. Once that is gone, you cannot come back into play once you died 2 times. You are out.


Feedback is welcomed. Anyone can participate just sign up your team under. Once 10 teams are on, we start it. Teams can be added each week.

Clerics are encouraged to have in squad as they are masters in cc.
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  • AriesBreath - Raging Tide
    AriesBreath - Raging Tide Posts: 689 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Can we all be in white NPC gear too? b:surrender
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  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I am not sure if you are trolling or if you are serious. We did pk in white items from npc and seekers oneshot everything with their skills.
    We cannot impose gear requirements. I am sure that a team with Man, Harkin and Arawin would be hard to kill but there many options and tactics in 3v3 fights.
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • AriesBreath - Raging Tide
    AriesBreath - Raging Tide Posts: 689 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    This is unrelated to our conversation but maybe just write in black/white that items dropped will/will not be returned to their owners so people can decide whether or not they want to spend on guardian scrolls.

    And we can name/shame all day on WC if someone does otherwise. b:victory
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  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Everybody will have GSs. If one drops items in this tourney, it is nice of other players who pick them up to return. We cannot force that so it his highly advisable to have GSs or you can lose your items.

    Players who dont want to waste GSs, charms, apo, etc...are not welcome to this event. It's all in on your expense. Try it or leave others to do it.

    It is same as PK, just 3vs3, more organised, in different locations so other PKers not to intervene.
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • Elvenne - Raging Tide
    Elvenne - Raging Tide Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I heard Bantonesa Vilead and DirtySouth are up for the challenge b:shocked
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  • Arawin - Raging Tide
    Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Nuuu
    *steals vilead*

    Man, vilead and me team! >=D

    3 questions/suggestions!

    1) Entering SZ should constitute a loss for said team. This is my opinion.
    2) Is there a "range" for fights? In open world can we fly and use distance to gain advantage/recover?
    3) Can someone be on more than one team? Or do all teams fight? I only ask because it'd be interesting to try playing with multiple different people.

    Oh and the spreadsheet link isn't visible. D:


    Oh: Clarify this rule:
    2. Each team can get self-class buffs or potion induced buffs, at the start of each fight.
    > Does this mean we start all fights buffless, and can CHOOSE what buffs we use? Cuz given time BEFORE the fight, you can spam a ton of APO buffs and have full buffs and no apo CD when fight starts, and this would be unfair IMO.
  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I think it would add a twist to the challenge if you are not allowed to buff before a battle, and must incorporate things like when to buff during a fight.

    And for your #2 Arawin, I think that there has to be a set battlefield distance before calling it a draw, mainly because kiting can be done for such a long distance.
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  • Dylena - Raging Tide
    Dylena - Raging Tide Posts: 1,416 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I think hes referring to "What your squad has, is what buff you get" deal. If you have a barb cleric archer in squad, then those are the buffs that goes unless you use apoth (during the fight). So in other words, buff among yourself before fight no problem but apoth cant be used until the fight stats so people cant use it and then have it off CD by the time fight starts.
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  • Brillance - Raging Tide
    Brillance - Raging Tide Posts: 1,643 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    AriesBreath - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Can we all be in white NPC gear too? b:surrender
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Everybody will have GSs.

    Im guessing this means you need to go dressed 'pimped-out', Aries. No white NPC gears for j00! b:cute

    Dylena - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I think hes referring to "What your squad has, is what buff you get" deal. If you have a barb cleric archer in squad, then those are the buffs that goes unless you use apoth (during the fight). So in other words, buff among yourself before fight no problem but apoth cant be used until the fight stats so people cant use it and then have it off CD by the time fight starts.

    Im thinking all squads will be Barb, Cleric and BM, based on buffies...b:chuckle
  • DirtySouth - Raging Tide
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    id say a 4v4 or 5 v 5would be better and more interesting; ofc with all the rules u pointed out above.
  • AriesBreath - Raging Tide
    AriesBreath - Raging Tide Posts: 689 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Oh and what about rezzing? Limited Rez or limitless?
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  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Ok, so rezzing is allowed as long as it comes from the cleric of that squad, or mystic buffs from the mystic of that squad.

    Buffs as Dylena said, are given by the squad composition or...by the sacrificing your apo.

    The reason I did not chose more than 3/squad is because tactics dont work that well anymore in group pvp.

    For example, we have, cleric, barb, archer in squad. It is clear that one is a disable/healer/support-cleric, then barb is a tank/bufffer and archer adc.
    Now if my team has to fight that team, guess what? We need a tactic or cleric sleeps one, SOG another and all 3 focus my 3rd team mate and we lost.

    So we need to kill cleric first at all costs. How do we do it w/o the archer and the barb killing us? Well here we need a strategy and training.
    @Arawin, there is no safe zone and people dont run. It's not regular PK, it is a 3 vs 3 till death. You know you either kill them or they will kill you, no gray area. We will have referees.


    Now the fun part is this: Lets say spell\s squad(whoever will be in) has been eliminated by DirtySouth's squad in 2 out 3.

    DS squad goes in 2nd tier of the fights. Spell can still reregister next week and fight others in the 1st tier. Then if he manages, he can fight again DS in 2nd or 3rd tier of the competition.
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • Arawin - Raging Tide
    Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    AriesBreath - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Oh and what about rezzing? Limited Rez or limitless?

    IMO limitless. Why nerf one/two classes (cleric/mystic) before we even begin fighting. :p

    If you don't want res, stun/kill/CC the cleric.

    I would agree res is rather OP. But so is purge. So is HF. Do we want to have limited purges per fight too? <.<
  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Lets say you make a squad with DirtySouth, Kastus and Vilead.

    These people have few buffs among them.

    If they fight Man, Arawin and Nigoshi for exemple, Man's squad has much more survivability even though the other squad has better gears and much more dps. Matches can last up to 7min max, point where the team with most members wins.
    Rezz scrolls are allowed.

    This is the tactic involved. When do we use the rezz scroll? Should we kill the mystic and cleric first? This way you avoid lag spikes that made you unable to use IG. Yeah you died but you can rezz on spot and get back into fight.
    These fights will need preparation of tactics, not just ....lets go in the area and fight.
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • Arawin - Raging Tide
    Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide wrote: »
    @Arawin, there is no safe zone and people dont run. It's not regular PK, it is a 3 vs 3 till death. You know you either kill them or they will kill you, no gray area. We will have referees.

    I meant like... Say my fight is going bad. Both my teammates are dead, and enemy has 3 alive. (This has happened many times in real PK.) You can run away, rebuff, wait for CDs, and generally kite around till your CDs are ready. Then run in, IG, and res/rebuff your squad mates.

    Now the fun part is this: Lets say spell\s squad(whoever will be in) has been eliminated by DirtySouth's squad in 2 out 3.

    DS squad goes in 2nd tier of the fights. Spell can still reregister next week and fight others in the 1st tier. Then if he manages, he can fight again DS in 2nd or 3rd tier of the competition.

    I guess this makes no sense. What tier? Tier2 can't fight tier1?
  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    IMO limitless. Why nerf one/two classes (cleric/mystic) before we even begin fighting. :p

    If you don't want res, stun/kill/CC the cleric.

    I would agree res is rather OP. But so is purge. So is HF. Do we want to have limited purges per fight too? <.<

    True. We do not put limitations on skills that the DEVs gave us to play with. Makes little sense.
    If you run from the designated area you lost. And it is on video. The rule is fight to the death. Air fight is available too. One team can chose to start in the air and fight there. There are special features of air fights. You need different tactics and special genie skills there. Holipath does not work there. :D
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I meant like... Say my fight is going bad. Both my teammates are dead, and enemy has 3 alive. (This has happened many times in real PK.) You can run away, rebuff, wait for CDs, and generally kite around till your CDs are ready. Then run in, IG, and res/rebuff your squad mates.

    @Arawin: YES...you could. They wont let you...but you could. Run around is just in the designated area. You can try flying to kite. That is why the cleric must die first. That is why we only have 1 of each class in a team. 3 clerics...GG

    I guess this makes no sense. What tier? Tier2 can't fight tier1?

    @ Arawin: it makes sense. If you win, you advance in the tourney, in the brackets. If random squad wants to fight you, they need to earn their spot to fight you, they cannot just...challenge you.

    Sure you can have agreed upon training matches but they dont count for tourney. A team only needs 4 win in a roll to win the tourney. 4 brackets won, they are the winners of RT for that month. Each month we reset.

    Lets say for some reason the assigned team did not come to fight when decided or their squad argued and dissolved. Your squad wins by default.
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    We did some tests and I will post the video soon. We used 2 Psychs as few were on at that time.
    1. The cleric is the most important class in a squad. He keeps the enemies CCed, he rezzes and purifies. Failing to protect the cleric will most likely lead to a loss.

    http://youtu.be/p2IOKOKZybM

    Here is the video
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  • csliu
    csliu Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Is it possible to make different grade? e.g. According to soul force.

    or just a few endgame player tournament. Skill is nothing if full+10 vs full+12+endgameshard
  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    csliu2 wrote: »
    Is it possible to make different grade? e.g. According to soul force.

    or just a few endgame player tournament. Skill is nothing if full+10 vs full+12+endgameshard

    I am sure it can be done. I cannot do it myself as I do not enough time and I need more people to get involved in team matching, recording etc.

    The goal is to get better gear in the game. Yes it can be done for people who are under 20k Soulforce. I encourage you all lowergeared pkers to organised it.

    This one is aimed for well geared PKers who do not mind wasting charms/apo/GSs etc. Keep in mind you have to be a PKer and love PK to participate and enjoy, to see it as an opportunity and not as a waste of time and resources.
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • Enemy - Raging Tide
    Enemy - Raging Tide Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Nuuu
    *steals vilead*

    Man, vilead and me team! >=D

    oh thanks man, love you too b:fatb
  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    For the tourney...we slowly getting there. Still missing venos, barbs, seekers, mystics and other classes but this should be fun.

    http://youtu.be/oqErfTY5JhA

    Enjoy, comment and help us improve our PVP skills.b:bye


    Coz of their ability to rezz, clerics seem to have the most impact on a 3 vs 3 type of PVP.

    On the next video you will see that he can rezz endlessly. We should cap the rezzing to just 1. You die once, you get only 1 chance to come back into play.
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    http://youtu.be/0R5wuMH6_ZY


    This is another short one 4 vs 4 this time. Lovely gameplay by all the players involved.

    We had about 2-3h of PK today so lots of videos, except the one where Kastus wrecks me 1 vs 1. :D
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    And the last 2

    http://youtu.be/pMA0V4itTOM

    and


    http://youtu.be/5DynxyykDVo

    I've split them because there are different teams, different locations and nobody wants to watch 50min videos of PK. Short and sweet! b:bye
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  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    If this can be done leisurely as a video repository for this event, with an organized first post that gets updated often with video links, then I'll rename and sticky this thread.

    I like the idea, and so far it looks like it's working.
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  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Skai, yes you can sticky this to RT.

    There are many who record and can record. We can make a 5 vs 5 because from our experiences up to now, Sins and Clerics are so OP in the 3 vs 3 that is makes other classes useless.

    Also, rezzing from clerics should be banned. Everyone has a rezz scroll, everyone can use it, either that or buff from mystic. The thing is, with rezzing...as you can see in the video, the clerics survives to rezz on and on and on.
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  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Yeah I agree that rezzing from a cleric should not be allowed, even though it is a skill they have.

    Everyone is allowed one rez from a resurrection scroll, and that's it. Mystic's buff should not be allowed either, as it can also potentially give infinite rezzes.
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  • Heleghir - Raging Tide
    Heleghir - Raging Tide Posts: 241 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide wrote: »
    The goal is to get better gear in the game. Yes it can be done for people who are under 20k Soulforce. I encourage you all lowergeared pkers to organised it.

    What's wrong with my 17.6k soulforce QQ b:surrender
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  • ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver
    ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    came here from your other thread. there you say clerics are op in 3v3. of course they are if they can rez...cleric are already one of the strongest class in 1v1, so if you allow rez, everyone will pick a cleric for your event. dont know on your server but, when you 1v1 a mystic, do you have to kill him twice to win?

    also, you made several mistakes on the 1st video i watched. never focused cleric.

    but yay, with these rules, if rez limitless, 3v3 is not good. 5v5 would be better, even tho, even with 5v5, limitless rez is silly in my opinion.

    had the same kind of event in the past on Dreamweaver, with Regenesis faction. when you're dead, you're out.

    EDIT : oh forgot to add. like you say at the end of you video, every group should have a cleric or mystic for rez. for a 3v3, doesnt bring much originality if only 2 classes change.
  • Arawin - Raging Tide
    Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Sharing a cleric vs archer video: http://youtu.be/s0zTRRhs37w
    Was a pretty fun fight. Archers are sooooo annoying with their purge purge purge. =)



    And as far as ressing goes... unless you can convince venos and archers not to purge, good luck convincing me not to res in my PK fights. I'ma fully use my classes abilities unless we decide not to for balance reasons. (e.g. opposing team has no cleric...) Though TBH it seems pretty simple to me. If you don't want them to res, kill the cleric. f:shame

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