level to get into weekly Aba and SoT
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it's a level 90 instance, NOT 100, and when I, at level 91 can do the same as a 101, I don't want to be told, oh, too low. No way.
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That's why you shouldn't go with a public squad. Most of the public squads are only interested in quantity and speed. If you delay them by 5 seconds, you're not good enough (unfortunately).0
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Not quite what the OP means, Kris.
The revamped Seat/Aba now have a minimum level to get the quests that are used to make them work, even though you can enter both as early as level 89.
According to PWDB, it's level 90 minimum now to navigate the instances. However, I'm pretty sure the new weekly quests are for level 100+.(Insert fancy image here)
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Um, actually... I hate to be the barer of bad news... but since abba and sot were "revised"... I have heard plenty of r9rr geared call sot a "hellpit"...it's a level 90 instance, NOT 100, and when I, at level 91 can do the same as a 101, I don't want to be told, oh, too low. No way.
and abba... although it can be done for the old abba aspects by 90+, there is at least one boss that basically one shots r9rr geared players.
Unfortunately, given the fact people still call for "need barb and cleric" squads on delta w3 and even w2 runs b:chuckle... most people can not play their classes. Thus, they actually NEED higher level players that also can not play their classes and do some praying about beating such as w2 in delta runs... How do you think they gonna take a 9x character with them in the revised abba and especially sot? b:shocked
And in more news... no... at level 91, one can never do the same as a 100... let alone a 101 or above. Not if the gears and skills of the character have been worked up to just what can be "expected"... let alone worked up to the top end gears.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Not quite what the OP means, Kris.
The revamped Seat/Aba now have a minimum level to get the quests that are used to make them work, even though you can enter both as early as level 89.
According to PWDB, it's level 90 minimum now to navigate the instances. However, I'm pretty sure the new weekly quests are for level 100+.
Derp.
My point still stands xDD.0 -
However, I'm pretty sure the new weekly quests are for level 100+.
Nope they are 90+
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Apostasy - Raging Tide wrote: »And in more news... no... at level 91, one can never do the same as a 100... let alone a 101 or above. Not if the gears and skills of the character have been worked up to just what can be "expected"... let alone worked up to the top end gears.
The amount of G16 players I slaughter in NW on 8X (or lower sometimes) characters says otherwise.
Worse when I squad with them for various things and still outperform them.(Insert fancy image here)0 -
Lol... sadly, i believe this and know quite well... b:chuckle But it still holds true for the majority or average playersThe amount of G16 players I slaughter in NW on 8X (or lower sometimes) characters says otherwise.
Worse when I squad with them for various things and still outperform them.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
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I never even seen all of the bosses in warsong yet... I still have my level 80 quest for the elemental essences from each boss (except snakefist). I never never once, not ever, done a single full warsong run... I only ever seen snakefist b:surrender Im never gonna get t3 nirvy or r9rr at this rate b:chuckle b:avoidXainou - Sanctuary wrote: »And you do full warsong runs at 80...?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »And you do full warsong runs at 80...?
see, that is the point. you guys think 100 is heaven, but I guarantee you I am just as good at 91 than 1/2 the 100's but you think you're God.0 -
The amount of G16 players I slaughter in NW on 8X (or lower sometimes) characters says otherwise.
Worse when I squad with them for various things and still outperform them.
G16? I'd say they must be afk or something alike, or wearing Dreamchaser armor, as one of it's stages looks like G16 and you can't really tell what kind of gear an oponent has in NW.<"shameless self-bump
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The amount of G16 players I slaughter in NW on 8X (or lower sometimes) characters says otherwise.
Worse when I squad with them for various things and still outperform them.
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MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »Wont deny this since there are so many FCC babies anyhow, but I'd doubt you'd survive properly in a full Seat or Warsong squad.
read the title of this thread. it said NOTHING about warsong, now did it. right away, again, you troll without reading.0 -
If i saw a lvl 90 join my squad i would not hesitate to kick you, don't like it? go make your own squad with your faction or friends, its just how things work. You may be great at playing your class yes but there are gear differences, in no way will you compare to someone with rrr9.0
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If i saw a lvl 90 join my squad i would not hesitate to kick you, don't like it? go make your own squad with your faction or friends, its just how things work. You may be great at playing your class yes but there are gear differences, in no way will you compare to someone with rrr9.
and i would kick you if you was in my party as we dont need over powered gear to do pve
and i kick any r999 from my party to0 -
HeavenxDoom - Lost City wrote: »and i would kick you if you was in my party as we dont need over powered gear to do pve
and i kick any r999 from my party to
and thats not what i said at all have a nice day b:laugh0 -
At times lvl 90 ones who know how to play their class in squad are much better than others who have bought their bad-statted T3-gears before lvl 100 after somehow striving through FC90+, either in squads or by buying exp rooms.
A classic example of this ish full APS-geared BM that doesn't give a **** about timing Demon HF to squad and throws it right after rushing to boss before barb. Or even better, in 4-sin Aba squad APS's bosses without throwing single HF thinking "I'm better DD than those 7 others together". Meanwhile a TT90-geared BM with T2-axes checks that everyone are sparking and boss has all necessary debuffs before triplesparking and throwing in lvl 10 HF. Which one profits squad moar?
Another example: BH Snake squad has 2 sins. First one has 5 APS with G13+4 dags, APS-armor set and 5,3k HP unbuffed. Latter one has 2.86APS with T2zerk+int+4 dags, mostly TT90-armors and 5,7k HP unbuffed. First sin just sparks and APS's when latter one uses Power Dash after sparking and then pops TM and EP from genie and uses DN and Focused Mind. Latter sin grabs aggro earlier due to skill using and can take those couple hits before barb gets aggro back. First sin takes aggro a moment later and dies. Which sin performed better?
Yet another example: In Delta W2, squad has couple seekers, first one with R8/T2 gears and other one has T2/T3 gears. They stand near BB, first using couple single hits on ranged mobs to get some chi(they vortex'd to last mob in previous mob wave) and then AoE. Sin tries to Aoe before mobs come too close to cleric, but dies for being unable to tank all those mobs. Mobs take aggro of cleric's BB and cleric dies. Then seekers vortex, both falling quickly. Mobs run to Harpy Wraith and Delta fails as poor Harpy dies. This squad had no one puller as seekers were supposed to take the mobs as they come from spawn. Delta Wave 2: Failed.foxy alone
Another squad, this time with TT90-armored seeker with T2 dual blades. This seeker AoEs all mobs at spawn to get aggro of them all and then pulls the mobs to squad and vortex's under BB, squad debuffing and AoEing mobs and taking care of ranged mobs. Squad goes on like this till the last mob wave before W2 bosses. Couple first mob waves seeker kills outside BB(wanting to test her limits) and succeeds by timing Expel well and triggering SM with BA-Gemini on most mobs after marking them, followed by popping Dew of Star Protection and Vortex. Seeker takes care of having enough chi by stopping vortex when there's just couple mobs left and using single-target skills for chi until they're dead.
Delta Wave 2: Successful.f:grin
These all have examples have happened in the recent couple weeks. Kitty was those TT90-armored BM, seeker and sin mentioned(both the latter sin in BH Snake and sin in first W2 squad). Kitty met the Devastator for the first time in earlier W2 squad mentioned. f:sweat
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The amount of G16 players I slaughter in NW on 8X (or lower sometimes) characters says otherwise.
Worse when I squad with them for various things and still outperform them.
Your archer is pretty well geared for lvl 89 b:mischievous[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=14516063001&dateline=1364756666[/SIGPIC] Ty Silvy
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see, that is the point. you guys think 100 is heaven, but I guarantee you I am just as good at 91 than 1/2 the 100's but you think you're God.
Lol, nice accusations.
You would hardly be able to run full ws at 80, let's face it. Even if you run around in +10 TT80 gears, I doubt you could defend a pav.
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it's a level 90 instance, NOT 100, and when I, at level 91 can do the same as a 101, I don't want to be told, oh, too low. No way.
just ebcause you can enter an instance at one lvl doesnt mean that you can have a meaningful contribution. WS is 80 too.
sure, you can walk around useless like a lot of 10x players. eh, crystals won't even allow you to die. if you don't want to be told, go form your own squad, there are no equal opportunities policies for squad forming. oh, and since you are under the delusion that you can be as useful as any 100+, go ahead and do aba with 90s; I'll eagerly await for the vid.you only purge once #yopo0 -
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And comon, you can say what you want about skills, but 91 vs 101 does make a huge difference.
You dont have 5aps at 91, thus you dont have the chi to both spark AND HF. Sure you can HF when needed, but it probably means you are not really doing any damage yourself.
You dont have all those attack and defence levels.
You would be insane if you have your equipment refined to +6 or better.
In the end you wont be able to do even 25% of the damage a 101 BM does, no amount of skill is going to fix that.
When you are claiming that you do just as well at lvl 91 actually makes me think you have never even played a 101 character rather instead of you being so skilled that you can make up for the lack of everything.Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.0 -
I want to see a full level 9x squad run the weekly aba b:cute granted they arent alts with warsoul weapons, killing mask, let alone the last boss, should be a fun time, someone fraps it b:pleased0
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_dblazen_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »I want to see a full level 9x squad run the weekly aba b:cute granted they arent alts with warsoul weapons, killing mask, let alone the last boss, should be a fun time, someone fraps it b:pleased
even with warsoul weapons I'd be quite sceptic; unless we are talking about +10 tt90 gears too XDyou only purge once #yopo0 -
The weapons of the sages are level 90...
But yeah - there certainly is a bump in power at 100; but it seems a damn shame to deny people their squads earlier.
Saying all that though - anyone got a guide to actually starting this event? It's bugging me not actually knowing all the steps properly.0 -
WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »And comon, you can say what you want about skills, but 91 vs 101 does make a huge difference.
You dont have 5aps at 91, thus you dont have the chi to both spark AND HF. Sure you can HF when needed, but it probably means you are not really doing any damage yourself.
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You dont have all those attack and defence levels.
lel Warsoul weapon alts lel
You would be insane if you have your equipment refined to +6 or better.
Full TT90 HA +6 4socket Immacs was hanging around somewhere on DW a while ago
In the end you wont be able to do even 25% of the damage a 101 BM does, no amount of skill is going to fix that.
Make that 10% lol
When you are claiming that you do just as well at lvl 91 actually makes me think you have never even played a 101 character rather instead of you being so skilled that you can make up for the lack of everything.
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