NW is trolling us =^,.,^=

KieraLlew - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Well... this was me last Sunday evening.

Warning: beyond enraged vampire-toothed and sharp-clawed veno incoming. Get pokeballs ready!

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Woot! 7.9k contribution points! Definitely beat my 3.5k from last time! f:grin -Nation Wars reward window pops up- Hmm... well I guess it's just a bug. *leaves NW and waits besides mailbox*

-a few minutes later, the mail icon pops up-

*grins, opens mailbox and reads message*

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?! YOU GOTTA BE @#$% KIDDING MEH! I HATE YOU PWE!!! I HATE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU!!! *demolishes mailbox and super-punches banker* f:fume

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*clears throat* Hehe... well, I guess it's obvious I got the "very unpleasant and insulting automated message". (And yes, I tend to have slight anger issues u_u; )

If you're about to say "LOL QQ MOAR YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE":

I know I'm not the only one. And well, maybe if they keep being swamped with threads they'll do something about it. *sweetface*

To make things a little clearer, here's the exact situation I explained in a ticket:

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And here's the answer I got...

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f:spew You... I don't even... *demolishes little npc house in a nearby village* f:fume

So. To sum it up:

Friday night was my first NW. I had no clue what I was doing. I got 3.5k contribution. I got 37 tokens.

Sunday night was my second NW. I now knew what I was doing. I got 7.9k contribution, which more than double of what I got last time. I got no reward.

Where's the logic? f:confused

In my opinion, giving absolutely no reward to people when they spent a lot of time, and even money, on a such an event, is completely unacceptable. Who's with me?

Zheii - Archosaur · August 2013

Oh Gosh

That doesn't sound right... It honestly sounds like a glitch, and they should have given you the tokens for it, I mean it's a few tokens, It'll take a total of less than 5minutes for them to send them to you, seems very unjust q.q.

I've seen others end NW with like 15k+ points and get no tokens what-so-ever the system is glitchy and if PWI staff and GM's are ignoring that fact then they are both stupid and ignorant.

KieraLlew - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Zheii - Archosaur wrote: »

Oh Gosh
That doesn't sound right... It honestly sounds like a glitch, and they should have given you the tokens for it, I mean it's a few tokens, It'll take a total of less than 5minutes for them to send them to you, seems very unjust q.q.

I've seen others end NW with like 15k+ points and get no tokens what-so-ever the system is glitchy and if PWI staff and GM's are ignoring that fact then they are both stupid and ignorant.

Yeah that's a real pile of BS.

Lol PWI staff is completely useless. I actually started one of my replies with "Hello, John Doe". Couldn't resist, hehe.

Maybe I watch too many Murdoch Mysteries? f:hehe

akazaki · August 2013

remind me of kids at the arcade scavenging for tokens lol
good times watching them.

opkossy · August 2013

Unfortunately, the content of tickets isn't something that can be posted here, so that had to be removed.

I'd suggest trying to capture two flags in an empty capture the flag instance or dig a few crystals to try and get your reward. That or run into people and fight your veno heart out all NW.

Oh and moving this to the Nation Wars subforum as well.

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Which nation were you in? Sunday on DW Dark was absolutely crushed (Light did pretty 'meh' too actually), so if you were in Dark then maybe that's why? I honestly don't know, just throwing out ideas. We still don't have a 100% clear idea on how they calculate points and distribute tokens to players, we have a decent idea but....Nothing concrete. But pretty sure one thing that is for sure is that if your nation sucks, you get sucky to zero reward. Yeah it blows, but makes sense.

But yeah, if you weren't in Dark or maybe Light nation on Sunday I have no clue why you got nothing.

Eoria - Harshlands · August 2013

You need a minimum of 5mins active battle time and to win a few wars. You can't just cap empty wars the entire time.

KieraLlew - Dreamweaver · August 2013

OPKossy wrote: »

Unfortunately, the content of tickets isn't something that can be posted here, so that had to be removed.

I'd suggest trying to capture two flags in an empty capture the flag instance or dig a few crystals to try and get your reward. That or run into people and fight your veno heart out all NW.

Oh and moving this to the Nation Wars subforum as well.

Oh, my bad. Can I resume what was said though?

And sure np I didn't know that existed. xD

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Which nation were you in? Sunday on DW Dark was absolutely crushed (Light did pretty 'meh' too actually), so if you were in Dark then maybe that's why? I honestly don't know, just throwing out ideas. We still don't have a 100% clear idea on how they calculate points and distribute tokens to players, we have a decent idea but....Nothing concrete. But pretty sure one thing that is for sure is that if your nation sucks, you get sucky to zero reward. Yeah it blows, but makes sense.

But yeah, if you weren't in Dark or maybe Light nation on Sunday I have no clue why you got nothing.

I was in Dark nation but in one of the answers I got it stated that there are 2 conditions to get a reward:

1. Win at least one battle
2. Fight for at least 5 minutes

So technically I should have gotten something.

And no that doesn't really make sense. =/ You shouldn't pay for the sucky-ness of others ijs. xD

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

You need a minimum of 5mins active battle time and to win a few wars. You can't just cap empty wars the entire time.

I did win a few wars and was active in battles. I was never alone in a war - I avoided empty wars completely.

Pwnallagain - Heavens Tear · August 2013

If you are having trouble with the combat time part of it. Go to a bridge battle (empty or little opposition is preferable) and work on killing the tower things. You are constantly gettin combat time as you attack them. So, bridge battles can give a nice combat time boost if that is what causes you the most trouble.

Kittysama - Raging Tide_1432680721 · August 2013

Kitty thinks fighting time ish calculated from time spent in combat mode(the time you can't swap genie, go to stealth mode normal way etc...). Thus if you're 1-shot you don't enter combat mode(at least Kitty doesn't get fighting time from being 1-shot, but any longer fight gives 10-30 secs at least. If you're 1-shot all the time, you might be unable to get 5 minutes of that fighting time.

Another reason for not getting tokens at all might be that nation doing badly, like some already mentioned. If you were in winning nation, that 3,7k credit might be enough for tokens. In bad nation even 9k might not be enough. That 3,7k ish really low these days as it's very easy to get that much with some crystal contests.(in fact Kitty can make much that in 15 minutes with a bit of good luck on her 90+ chars).

In losing nation especially it might take very high credit to get any tokens. Kitty's doing about 18k credit every NW and when in slightly losing 4th nation with 15k credit, she's got just about 80 tokens when in slightly winning nation Kitty has got about 180 tokens with that 18k credit. If nation was totally crushed...f:ouch

KieraLlew - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Kittysama - Raging Tide wrote: »

Kitty thinks fighting time ish calculated from time spent in combat mode(the time you can't swap genie, go to stealth mode normal way etc...). Thus if you're 1-shot you don't enter combat mode(at least Kitty doesn't get fighting time from being 1-shot, but any longer fight gives 10-30 secs at least. If you're 1-shot all the time, you might be unable to get 5 minutes of that fighting time.

Another reason for not getting tokens at all might be that nation doing badly, like some already mentioned. If you were in winning nation, that 3,7k credit might be enough for tokens. In bad nation even 9k might not be enough. That 3,7k ish really low these days as it's very easy to get that much with some crystal contests.(in fact Kitty can make much that in 15 minutes with a bit of good luck on her 90+ chars).

In losing nation especially it might take very high credit to get any tokens. Kitty's doing about 18k credit every NW and when in slightly losing 4th nation with 15k credit, she's got just about 80 tokens when in slightly winning nation Kitty has got about 180 tokens with that 18k credit. If nation was totally crushed...f:ouch

Hmm actually I was told by the person who answered my ticket that just entering and getting one shot is enough to start the timer. o.o Furthermore, on my first NW where I got the 3.5k credits, I was one shot all the time, much more than what I was on my second time with the 7.9k credits.

That's really messed up. They shouldn't punish you that badly if your nation didn't do that well. With all the gear and lvls being so unbalanced, they shouldn't do that. =/

NW_Shinoby - Dreamweaver · August 2013

lol u gona be pissed of my luck;
here it goes:i was playing with my lvl 60 seeker in morai server had 7.6 contibution might be
7.8 max our nation was scond and i got 120 tokens o.o
i must say that a lot of lowbies are there u see few high lvl geard players and many empty battles i mean many many not a many few

NW_Shinoby - Dreamweaver · August 2013

and actually can't believe with this sin 5 aps on dreamweaver rarely get more then 6k contr
ok...lol

Hunt - Raging Tide · August 2013

Now think again. if they give us more tokens,tokens will be worthless (already is).

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver · August 2013

NW isn't trolling you, just saying that your didn't contribute anything. next time try to do more than battle hops

KieraLlew - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Hunt - Raging Tide wrote: »

Now think again. if they give us more tokens,tokens will be worthless (already is).

I never said they should give us more tokens. They should just rethink the way they're distributing them.

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

NW isn't trolling you, just saying that your didn't contribute anything. next time try to do more than battle hops

Yeah right. You really think I just sat there and did nothing all evening? -.-

I fought for the whole damn time and did my best to help as much a I could.

SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear · August 2013

I rather low lvl toon farm jolly jones than NW

Zsw - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Since when did everyone who enter real life competition always get something? Last time I checked, only 1 person takes the prize.

Do events for fun, not money.

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Yeah I know it sucks, but that's how it is. There is only a set amount of tokens that can be distributed, and if one nation gets crushed into oblivion, they will get A LOT less tokens than the others because of how poorly the nation as a whole did. Doesn't matter if people 'worked hard' during the wars, if the nation got mutilated then maybe next time you'll get in a nation with people who work together better and actually get tokens for your hard work.

And how would that not make sense? if nations that lost horribly got some amount of tokens for everyone last person who participated in said nation, would mean less tokens for the nations who ACTUALLY took lands and won (which is kiiiiind of a huge point to NW) and racked up a hefty chunk of contribution for their nation from those lands they took/defended/conquered, however you wanna put it.

Sorry you got in Dark on Sunday, but one person actually doing something doesn't make it automatic reward in a group effort competition like this, or any in that matter.

f:stare

NW is trolling us =^,.,^=

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