Nerf those classes for the best of game .

SweetHeart_ - Raging Tide
SweetHeart_ - Raging Tide Posts: 19 Arc User
edited July 2013 in General Discussion
Hello ,

after years of playing , watching and experiencing every class in pvp and pve .

I believe those changes should be done to the game classes :

Remove seeker def lvl buff , nerf seeker's dmg to 66%-70% .
Sins CC skills should be reduced/nerfed.
BM phy def marrow should be removed .
Archers r9 bow purge should be removed or nerfed to 1/30 chance to proc .( and any purge bow chance to 1/30 chance as best ).
Archers attack speed should be nerfed least of 33% .
Psys def lvl white voodoo nerfed 33%.
Cleric sleep skill nerfed to 10-15 sec max sleep .
Cleric SoG able to be removed .
Veno purge should be nerfed to 5min CD .
Cleric reduce phy and magic def debuff nerfed to 20% not 40 or 35 .
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  • Heartz - Dreamweaver
    Heartz - Dreamweaver Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    or you could go play another game? if you have so many complaints ;p

    most of those makes no sense, unless it's because you're stupid and dont know how to deal with it.
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  • Haila - Sanctuary
    Haila - Sanctuary Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    So you play barb, mystic or wizard b:nosebleed
  • Brillance - Raging Tide
    Brillance - Raging Tide Posts: 1,643 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    So you play barb, mystic or wizard b:nosebleed

    Shoo troll! Why would anyone even mention a Mystic on this thread? Nothing on us needs another nerf! f:poo
  • Heliophobia - Sanctuary
    Heliophobia - Sanctuary Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I hope this is a troll post..
    Why you want to nerf only archers aps but not BMs or sins?
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Cleric SoG able to be removed .

    Cleric SoG can be avoided with Faith or Will Surge+anti-stun.
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Inb4 this thread's put down.
    (Seriously OP, if you're going to ask for this sort of nonsense, at least give somewhat good reasoning behind it)
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  • Nyxsa - Heavens Tear
    Nyxsa - Heavens Tear Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    You do realize with every advantage there is a disadvantage? Yes, I'm clearly a veno, but people still get upset because who wants to lose their buffs in NW of all places. Sage Purge is AoE so good luck crying to that and no reason it needs to have a mass cool down so other classes can have a higher advantage over the other.

    This game isn't about every class being equal to each other obviously, someone has to counter someone. And I think it would be terrible if my skills would have such a lengthy cool down because someone cried about getting purged. I think its great Clerics have an ability to "Sleep" (annoying as it might be) but its THEIR advantage over you. And seeing that you're a BM, I see where we as casters get you upset. How do you think WE feel getting stunned? I'd love if sins didn't have their own stun which why bramble is such a useful tool at times.
    If anything I'd want my skills to cool faster so I can do it more. f:cute
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  • imthecatshit
    imthecatshit Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    So basically you want to nerf classes cause you suck?
    GG. go play gameboy colour plz. MMO's are not for you, stick to pokemon instead.
  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    You should stick to level 30 pvp. That fits your description perfectly.
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  • CapnK - Sanctuary
    CapnK - Sanctuary Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    >>Remove seeker def lvl buff , nerf seeker's dmg to 66%-70% .

    Nah seekers are fine as is, they're not very good overall.

    >>Sins CC skills should be reduced/nerfed.

    Maybe, but then they would be totally pointless.

    >>BM phy def marrow should be removed .

    Er what? Why?

    >>Archers r9 bow purge should be removed or nerfed to 1/30 chance to proc .( and any purge bow chance to 1/30 chance as best ).

    It's a 6% chance to proc now, which is about 1/17. Annoying when it happens, but not terribly broken as it stands.

    >>Archers attack speed should be nerfed least of 33% .

    Only problem I have is quickshot hitting twice before a charm can tick. The rest isn't a big deal.

    >>Psys def lvl white voodoo nerfed 33%.

    Psy in White Voodoo? Just ignore them.

    >>Cleric sleep skill nerfed to 10-15 sec max sleep .

    I can agree with this, 30 seconds of sleep is pretty ridiculous.

    >>Cleric SoG able to be removed .

    Nah it's fine.

    >>Veno purge should be nerfed to 5min CD .

    I would be in favor of increased cooldown, but 5 minutes is pretty extreme. Maybe 3 minutes?

    >>Cleric reduce phy and magic def debuff nerfed to 20% not 40 or 35 .

    No, this skill is fine as it is.
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    or you could go play another game? if you have so many complaints ;p

    most of those makes no sense, unless it's because you're stupid and dont know how to deal with it.

    This.


    Sounds like the OP is a troll though...

    All classes have their strong and weak points, all classes have advantages and disadvantages. Some classes are better against others, some classes are weaker against others. It also depends on what PvP scenario it is; 1v1, TW, group PK etc.

    Also, the issue is with the gear available (R999 is overpowered, hands down) not the classes per se.
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  • Horosho - Lost City
    Horosho - Lost City Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Can't play the game? Better QQ about it on the forum b:bye
    ...
  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Hello ,

    after years of playing , watching and experiencing every class in pvp and pve .

    I believe those changes should be done to the game classes :

    Remove seeker def lvl buff , nerf seeker's dmg to 66%-70% .
    Sins CC skills should be reduced/nerfed.
    BM phy def marrow should be removed .

    OK let me get this straight. You want to nerf Seeker to the point of undesirable, but you want to keep Sin and BM near the top and still 5APS capable?
  • Morridune - Raging Tide
    Morridune - Raging Tide Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    oh ik lets make magic atks need accuracy, heals only work on Tuesdays, sins can only stealth wen they take their pants off, every class has a 10% chance per atk or skill to "fumble" and drop their weapon and charms get a 30s CD ??? i am ofc assuming this isnt a serious thread
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Q.q about ridiculous stuff but don't cry about purify proc? This is new. Must not have wanted another 600 page post with 60% of the server saying it's OP and the other 40% thinking its OP but wanting to exploit it. So many positive changes could be made to this, like it not procing on the actual debuffing attack (HF actually causing the purify proc lolwut?) but instead people complain about white voodoo, cleric debuffs, and phys marrow.

    And I think Soul shatter is around 6% but Spirit Blackhole is around 10-12%, but I think it can be glitched to around a 30% proc rate. PWI just doesn't fix glitches like Quickshot charm bipassing or broken purge rates.

    Cleric sleep is massively annoying and sometimes the 30 second sleep rate is way overkill considering its only used to avoid fights at that length of time.

    Sin CC skills? Channel canceling is gone, so probably not that... Cookie cutter skills? No. Can't type two words so people will know what you're talking about.

    Seeker defenses are fine, but their offense is somewhat OP which is crazy because I've never been hit by barbs, BMs (both using high axe spike damage), venos, mystics, or archers as hard as seekers hit. Swords are supposed to be a relatively fast aps, low dd weapon with poor to mediocre spike damage. How I get hit for 40k by seekers while I wear r9t3 is confusing, even if they are QpQing debuffs onto me. Even wizards/Psys aren't hitting me for that when I'm debuffed and HFd and they use their ultis but seeker can do it with a skill that requires zero chi.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Can't play the game? Better QQ about it on the forum b:bye

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  • NukeUrButtox - Dreamweaver
    NukeUrButtox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I believe this person needs to be reminded of something. Each class has their own weakness and strength.

    Nothing rlly needs to be nerfed, just find counters to each of ur problems.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Sin CC skills? Channel canceling is gone, so probably not that... Cookie cutter skills? No. Can't type two words so people will know what you're talking about.

    ...

    CC means crowd control. Stuns, seals, etc. It's pretty common game lingo.
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  • Crazybladema - Harshlands
    Crazybladema - Harshlands Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I believe this person needs to be reminded of something. Each class has their own weakness and strength.

    Nothing rlly needs to be nerfed, just find counters to each of ur problems.

    Pretty much, but there are 3 things that do really need to be nerfed. That would be 5 aps, Purify proc and 50k soulforce psys. If purify was nerfed/removed, Aps capped at 2 and soulforce was capped at 20k ish. Then yes, classes would be relatively balanced. But if pwi did that, there would be so much rage and QQ it wouldn't be funny. It would be hilarious.
  • SerahLight - Archosaur
    SerahLight - Archosaur Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Cleric sleep skill nerfed to 10-15 sec max sleep .
    Cleric SoG able to be removed .

    Cleric sleep can be taken off with a genie skill, I dunno which one. SoG can be avoided by what Eoria said and if a seeker manages to QPQ while sog'd, it works. They get bless buff and you get the debuffs.
  • XEmpressX - Heavens Tear
    XEmpressX - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    imagine a game with no crowd control skills at all. Now that would be fun.
  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    imagine a game with no crowd control skills at all. Now that would be fun.

    Aka everyone has purify proc weapons? :o
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  • XEmpressX - Heavens Tear
    XEmpressX - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Aka everyone has purify proc weapons? :o


    Lol, nah, they just have no stun/sleep/seal b:chuckle would be insanity b:pleased
  • Rjwashere - Dreamweaver
    Rjwashere - Dreamweaver Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Cleric reduce phy and magic def debuff nerfed to 20% not 40 or 35 .[/QUOTE]




    are u kidding me o.o
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  • Kwandelan - Heavens Tear
    Kwandelan - Heavens Tear Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Want a sane suggestion to balance this game?

    Totally remove the cashshop gear of r9 from PWI and cap APS to 3.33

    But since that won't ever happen, nvm...

    EDIT: Not just the r9 gear, but all gear that came in packs after r9 was introduced, including the latest helm. Sadly, this ain't gonna happen. Fools will keep spending thousands on buying packs for a crappy "powerful" in-game item and blaming pwi at the same time. PWE on the other hand is saying "Yeah, we heard you" and putting fail more stuff in Boutique to make the idiots pay. Happy PWI'ing people!
  • Crazybladema - Harshlands
    Crazybladema - Harshlands Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Want a sane suggestion to balance this game?

    Totally remove the cashshop gear of r9 from PWI and cap APS to 3.33

    But since that won't ever happen, nvm...

    That would be nice..... I'd cap aps at 2 though
  • Raziyal - Archosaur
    Raziyal - Archosaur Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    How could you say veno purge to be on 5 min cooldown! That is the one skill that actually removes possitive buffs from players, and is a GREAT thin to use >.<

    Just Horrible!
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  • Shoyahz - Heavens Tear
    Shoyahz - Heavens Tear Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    How could you say veno purge to be on 5 min cooldown! That is the one skill that actually removes possitive buffs from players, and is a GREAT thin to use >.<

    Just Horrible!

    sounds like they got purged once too many times b:chuckle
  • hitaomaru
    hitaomaru Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    "Shoo troll!"

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