Please simply leave...

Hmm, sounds interesting so imma dive in.

I know what everyone here is saying, but I can't help but feel that PWI is an amazing, amazing game. I do leave every now and then - I took a 3 year break back in 2010, because I was really upset about APS and it felt like there was no way I could compete.

Then mystics came out and their summons did damage that has a correlation factor with the mystic's gear and I felt like my veno got a slap in the face. But I still kept up to date with what was happening in PWI. The Morai update etc.

Then Venomancer update and Meridian system came along and I thought wow, finally something for us venos, and jumped in and feel so much happier. In a way I think I've always love the game, love the times I spent here with my RL friends, and the new ones I made along the way through the game.

I love my Herc, Nix and Harpy, and I honestly think that PWI is starting to rise higher and higher. Hopefully PWE gets full ownership of PWI and then they could really work on making it top-notch once again.

Haila - Sanctuary wrote: »

You have been in wrong factions, there are helpfull factions out there in sanctuary and main theme is not me me me.

It's sad to say that I've been in about 100 of them.. Though some I left because of unlikable atmosphere. Ya know, when all that is talked about is naughtiness all day long. Hmm I can't remember the last time I had a meaningful conversation in a faction, or with anyone on the server for that matter. My current faction is great though and been with them for about a year, I just sit back and read what they say, never really injecting myself into it(long story why and stemming from past experiences).

We got 3 main types of players here. Seems liek noone is realizing this tho.

First the Casual Players. They complain about nearly everything at the point when they realize that they can't have fun (leveling and questing with others and doing stuff with others) at a certain level. It is hard for them to improve at lvl100+ without cashing or at least farming the **** out of this game.

Most of them then complain and want things changes so that they won't have to farm that much or to spend as much money on the game as others do. "Nerf this and that, so that even I have a chance beating those classes the cheap and simple way". Thats all I'm hearing. While it is true that there would be some nerfes that could be appropriate, but most of them is bs.

Ultimately this type of player will quit or tag along just to chat and do random redicolous stuff with others ingame.

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The 2nd type are the hardcore gamers (like mysef).

We want this game and like the challange that it is hard to keep up with others ingame. Tho this type splits up in 2 types: Farmers and Cashers. While Cashers are more fixiated on beeing the best and just blow everything away (don't missunderstand me, I am actually talking about those who know how to play but are just too lazy to farm, everyone unable to play is to be put to the casual section!) skillwise and the Farmers just want to do the same, but are happy being able to keep up with the cashers and are always up for a great challange with other skilled ppl.

Tho I have to admit that the farmer-type Hardcore-players are the ones that tend to flame others the most. Easily explained why: We work for our stuff and can somehow keep up with all the lazy ones. We are proud on our achievement. Do to the hard work we can hardly respect others that didn't worked as hard as we did. If we realize that not all cashers are fail nubs that are unable to play their class then we can somehow respect one or 2 of them.

To be honest...I am one of those hardcore-farming da sht out of this game-players...and it is really hard to somehow acknowledge others. It's always like that, just look at the real life situations in some countrys. So many working ppl complain about those without a job and if they are imigrants they would love to see them "leave". Most of them won't agree to that officially but they somehow all feel that way. Even tho PWI is just a game, it is very comparable to rl in some terms.

The farmers are the ones here that want those that complain to leave because we did it it under those hard conditions you are complaining about and it would be somehow unfair if you would have it easier. It doesn't matter if it's PvE-wise or PvP-wise. If one can't keep up with the conditions of something then one shouldn't bother trying. It always sounds extremely harsh if one of those players says something like that but in the end it is just a reminder for other to be cautious. Because, if something is obviously too hard for you then you're only going to make yourself sad in so many ways. Just leve then, it would be the best for you.

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The 3rd type are trolls, no need for explaination.

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Hope I could give you guys a look into the mind of a player that sometimes tend to asking others to leave. We can never look into others minds and it gets harder if we can just comminicate via texting. A Guy that you might think is a dic.k might turn out to be one hell of a great guy if you learn more about him, ijs.

We all shouldn't judge as quickly as we do most of the time.

Joe - Morai wrote: »

We got 3 main types of players here. Seems liek noone is realizing this tho.

First the Casual Players. They complain about nearly everything at the point when they realize that they can't have fun (leveling and questing with others and doing stuff with others) at a certain level. It is hard for them to improve at lvl100+ without cashing or at least farming the **** out of this game.

Most of them then complain and want things changes so that they won't have to farm that much or to spend as much money on the game as others do. "Nerf this and that, so that even I have a chance beating those classes the cheap and simple way". Thats all I'm hearing. While it is true that there would be some nerfes that could be appropriate, but most of them is bs.

Ultimately this type of player will quit or tag along just to chat and do random redicolous stuff with others ingame.

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The 2nd type are the hardcore gamers (like mysef).

We want this game and like the challange that it is hard to keep up with others ingame. Tho this type splits up in 2 types: Farmers and Cashers. While Cashers are more fixiated on beeing the best and just blow everything away (don't missunderstand me, I am actually talking about those who know how to play but are just too lazy to farm, everyone unable to play is to be put to the casual section!) skillwise and the Farmers just want to do the same, but are happy being able to keep up with the cashers and are always up for a great challange with other skilled ppl.

Tho I have to admit that the farmer-type Hardcore-players are the ones that tend to flame others the most. Easily explained why: We work for our stuff and can somehow keep up with all the lazy ones. We are proud on our achievement. Do to the hard work we can hardly respect others that didn't worked as hard as we did. If we realize that not all cashers are fail nubs that are unable to play their class then we can somehow respect one or 2 of them.

To be honest...I am one of those hardcore-farming da sht out of this game-players...and it is really hard to somehow acknowledge others. It's always like that, just look at the real life situations in some countrys. So many working ppl complain about those without a job and if they are imigrants they would love to see them "leave". Most of them won't agree to that officially but they somehow all feel that way. Even tho PWI is just a game, it is very comparable to rl in some terms.

The farmers are the ones here that want those that complain to leave because we did it it under those hard conditions you are complaining about and it would be somehow unfair if you would have it easier. It doesn't matter if it's PvE-wise or PvP-wise. If one can't keep up with the conditions of something then one shouldn't bother trying. It always sounds extremely harsh if one of those players says something like that but in the end it is just a reminder for other to be cautious. Because, if something is obviously too hard for you then you're only going to make yourself sad in so many ways. Just leve then, it would be the best for you.

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The 3rd type are trolls, no need for explaination.

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Hope I could give you guys a look into the mind of a player that sometimes tend to asking others to leave. We can never look into others minds and it gets harder if we can just comminicate via texting. A Guy that you might think is a dic.k might turn out to be one hell of a great guy if you learn more about him, ijs.

We all shouldn't judge as quickly as we do most of the time.

I have to agree with Joe here, I lump myself into the farmer category. Busted my *** for r9, and it urks my when people say "oh I'll never be able to afford r9". It's been 5 months since I started and I'm almost completely finished with first cast, putting in maybe 10 hours MAX of farming a week. It's possible, they are just too emo to do it but meh. This is more accurate than just 2 types of players.

@Alsiadorra: If you can't handle raunchy chat, I suggest you grow up. The chats they have in TW facs are no different from the chats we adults have in real life. Or maybe you are prudish, idk. As for the all being solo minded, that's a lie. Don't make absolute statements like that. You have not been in every single TW faction on PWI, so you don't in fact know they are all like that. Vex on DW sure isn't.

ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm sorry, but posts like this show how much PWE has succeeded in painting their "it's not our fault" picture, when it's not true at all [..]

It's true sadly. PWE doesn't have full power over the game but there are still things they can choose to have or not have and the sales and the kind of items they put in the Boutique affect the game greatly.

I don't know if the other PW versions are better though because they might have their own problems there.

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

Then look how many players are in game.

Look at WC messages.

Casual players simply left this game, there are users of cash shop only.

R9 is from cash shop as all refines, that high level player need (starting from +7 at least).

You my friend, are only looking at one side of the coin.
1) RT is known as a big time trolling server, you have learn to ignore that.
2) There are plenty of casual players in the game I know that are active, hell my faction is full of them.
3) You don't need R9 high refined is simply play.

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

There are 2 types of players:
1. They are using cash shop and game for them is fun.

They play and all for them is easy, they are local "heroes" of the perfectworld.
Some of them spend their time 24/7, other pay for themselves and for those, who "farm" their cash shop gear.

2. Casual players.

They start to play, because this game is theoretically free or they like description of the game.
They play sometimes, often at 2x, but they have not any perspective in this game.

What the poster above me said.....

ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »

...
-Nation Wars are actually Inter-Server in China, not so here because PWE can't be bothered.
...

Actually, this is because of the way our name databases for the servers are set up. they are working to find a resolution, but it's not an easy one. I know because I've worked through a similar issue myself.

Basically, they have to either merged all the servers that share the same name database, or they have to separate the databases and split them to their respective servers. The former creates a huge issue with the capabilities of the hardware and network data transfer between the servers than manage the data, the latter is a massive undertaking in sorting and splitting the data.

I'm impressed that they are even looking into resolving the issue. The latter is probably the only reasonable fix though.

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

At level 101 you have not pets other than tamed by you and use g16+5 or something like that ? You never used cash shop items ?

So you look down on anyone who spends ANY money on the game? You DO understand, don't you that PWI is a business and will not provide the game to you for free, out of the goodness of their hearts, yes? And those handouts from the government? Somebody earned the money to pay for those, too.

The takers should thank the givers, not sneer at them.

If you want a game where nobody pays for anything, start it. Nobody owes you.

Even thought people say High lvl are Cash Shoppers, well it True but not 100% all Cash Shop b:thanks

I for one didn't even spend a single dollar in this game, plus at where I live don't even has any Zen offer. So yeah, I play this game starting with nothing but Pickaxe in my bag.

So by saying that you need R9 refined gears to play is only for OP kind of players, while Casual don't follow up what you're planing, they play when they need to talk, when they free and to make some friends.

I even leave this game 2 time, one during Genesis and second in Decent, due to how hard quests can get at higher lvl that you need to kill 40 to 60 mobs and gather 20 to 60 items. Is just plain bored and frustrating. So yeah, I come back because I give it a chance and yeah, I love the chance to the main quests. But not One man army and Crusader they still has 60 kills.

So I didn't just Simply Leave because my friends leave, or since I found it hard. Because I been playing this games for so long without my friends to play with me, but I made some in PWI and I got used to it b:thanks

So it's not 100% that peoples leave like the op said................b:thanks

DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

There are players that always buy from the cash shop, ie cashers; then there are people who buy from those people regularly because its cheaper per gold, ie farmers and harcore players.
Then there are the casuals who only buy cosmetics and never care for gear near the same level of the cashers or the farmers/hardcore players. Understand?

Farmers and hardcore ("who buy from those people regularly because its cheaper per gold") players play using cash shop items ... I said about them already.

Casual players, which use game fashions/cosmetics only is something other than above players.

Yes, I saw their talks in WC like: "WTS <link to male fashion> for ... millions only.", but since they use this game for other purposes, then I had not included them to above 2 categories.

Heliophobia - Sanctuary wrote: »

1. Cash shoppers
2. Casual players
3. Those who rarely get online. (mainly during 2x)

Better?

I can be all of those three. I play periodically. ANd I still get on now and again.

Why care?

_Shui - Harshlands wrote: »

I stared perfect world around 2008/2009, wasn't even pwi, yet.
It was my first real MMORPG.
I quited 6 times since that and always came back a few months later.


Something always makes me come back but I can't tell what.
I tried tons of other MMORPGs ****, ****, WoW, FW, WoI, JD,.. but to none of those I would even consider to ever come back. pwi kinda has...idk.....




Also current pwi gameplay is actually fun to me Flashy skill effects, BoA, Waterdragon, Morai skills :P and I love the fast paced gameplay with holy path etc, TWs & NWs!

Oh man 100% agreed with you PWI has some magic. You have quited 6 times i haven't even tried to quit once started my journey back 2010 & No other PWE titles comes closer to PWI. b:victory

Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »

We could have easily afforded a monthly subscription, but this game is not subscription based in our time on it - Ive heard it used to be, but as far as I know thats just a random rumor because Ive never personally seen it other than someone saying it was so.

The subscription you heard about is not this version of PW it was another version that was P2P and I couldn't say which it is since discussing most other versions is against PWI forum rules.