TW on 2013-07-13 QQme vs Vicious (Cleric PoV)

Arawin - Raging Tide
Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
edited July 2013 in Tideswell (East)
TW video

I actually had fun. Looking forward to more TWs.
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  • DirtySouth - Raging Tide
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Boring Metal Mage's Pov, but ehy thumbs up for being the only QQme posting a defeat TW video. *cough Spell, Linc, badbud cough*
  • Bladed_Tony - Raging Tide
    Bladed_Tony - Raging Tide Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    metal mage pov is better than a healing pov ijs
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  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Great video Arawin, yet too freaking long. My eyes are bleeding.

    Make it shorter, 15min top.

    :)

    DirtySouth, hold your horses! Not everybody who plays pwi has time to edit and work on the video immediately. People have jobs, family, responsibility.
    I'd love to see for example one of your TW videos.
    With your level of gear, with only the money that you put in 1 piece of r9.3. you could get a decent PC to record. My PC is worth about 220$ right now. I record at max rez sometimes.

    You might be lazy thought or you just dont know how to do it. Do learn and do it! b:surrender
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  • Lecus - Lost City
    Lecus - Lost City Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    So much on gear but yet so little on anything of physical use...?
  • Arawin - Raging Tide
    Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    @Spell
    I record videos to learn from... as well as show what happened in the TW. (Good and bad.) Not to show off my epeen or something. So cutting just to show my moments of greatness isn't my purpose. I only cut out parts of long extended standing around or ressing/rebuffing stuff. My main purpose is to see what I did wrong, and learn from my mistakes. And of course also sharing the TW with others, since it's fun.

    @Lecus
    not sure if that comment is directed at me or spell, since we both have pretty similar gear... Not even sure what it means. Better gear's purpose is to keep you alive longer. And to do better at whatever you do best. (Whether tank or DD or heal...)

    @Dirty
    Well, if not metal mage, what exactly would *you* have me do when there are cata's killing my crystal? Stand there and do nothing with my thumb up my ....? Oh wait, I guess that *IS* what you would want, seeing as you're on the side killing my crystal. :P
  • Linc - Raging Tide
    Linc - Raging Tide Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    While I appreciate your interest DS, I felt like with Arawin, Spell_Caster, and Nigoshi posting their vids that another Illustrious Pro Video might esplode the internetz. I don't really see it as a losing TW either, it's more like a fighting land transfer and we would have won if we could have gotten up off the ground long enough to drop you guys more often . . .

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  • DirtySouth - Raging Tide
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Great video Arawin, yet too freaking long. My eyes are bleeding.

    Make it shorter, 15min top.

    :)

    DirtySouth, hold your horses! Not everybody who plays pwi has time to edit and work on the video immediately. People have jobs, family, responsibility.
    I'd love to see for example one of your TW videos.
    With your level of gear, with only the money that you put in 1 piece of r9.3. you could get a decent PC to record. My PC is worth about 220$ right now. I record at max rez sometimes.

    You might be lazy thought or you just dont know how to do it. Do learn and do it! b:surrender

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  • DirtySouth - Raging Tide
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    @Dirty
    Well, if not metal mage, what exactly would *you* have me do when there are cata's killing my crystal? Stand there and do nothing with my thumb up my ....? Oh wait, I guess that *IS* what you would want, seeing as you're on the side killing my crystal. :P

    I think you are in a Cata squad, aren't you? Why u let 1 shot clerics be cata clerics while u act as a DD? with ur surviveability ur catas should last much longer! but ofc im not in charge of QQme tactics nor i care.

    For more references.... http://www.youtube.com/user/apocalipsi07
  • Arawin - Raging Tide
    Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I think you are in a Cata squad, aren't you? Why u let 1 shot clerics be cata clerics while u act as a DD? with ur surviveability ur catas should last much longer! but ofc im not in charge of QQme tactics nor i care.

    For more references.... http://www.youtube.com/user/apocalipsi07

    Indeed. I'm not in charge of QQme tactics either, else things would be... sufficiently different.

    As far as healing Cata... In offensive TWs where we're killing enemy towers/crystals I do. (Ref: TW last month... You can see I heal the Cata pullers quite a bit...) Keeping those Cata's alive even an extra 20-30 seconds can mean the difference between a alive/dead tower... or another 1mil dmg to the crystal.

    However, in defensive wars where the other faction is pushing you back, killing towers is meaningless. Cata's are just there as a distraction. It's *very* unlikely versus any decently smart faction that a cata squad is gonna kill the enemy crystal when your faction is being pushed back. In the last war, for example, we killed 7 Vicious towers? And what did that get us? Nothing, a dead crystal. Did that help our dead crystal? Nope. I think some extra DD/debuffs on the cata barbs... or a dead R9rr archer helps serve the faction more than a dead tower in a defensive war.

    Of course that's just my thoughts.
  • Lecus - Lost City
    Lecus - Lost City Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It was at Spell not you. Also it makes sense if you see how much his computer is worth and compare it to how much it probably has spent on his gear. With that who cares if you have great gear if your computer struggles to play a game?
  • DirtySouth - Raging Tide
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Indeed. I'm not in charge of QQme tactics either, else things would be... sufficiently different.

    As far as healing Cata... In offensive TWs where we're killing enemy towers/crystals I do. (Ref: TW last month... You can see I heal the Cata pullers quite a bit...) Keeping those Cata's alive even an extra 20-30 seconds can mean the difference between a alive/dead tower... or another 1mil dmg to the crystal.

    However, in defensive wars where the other faction is pushing you back, killing towers is meaningless. Cata's are just there as a distraction. It's *very* unlikely versus any decently smart faction that a cata squad is gonna kill the enemy crystal when your faction is being pushed back. In the last war, for example, we killed 7 Vicious towers? And what did that get us? Nothing, a dead crystal. Did that help our dead crystal? Nope. I think some extra DD/debuffs on the cata barbs... or a dead R9rr archer helps serve the faction more than a dead tower in a defensive war.

    Of course that's just my thoughts.

    Obviously we have different PoVs on TW, but w/e floats ur boat i think. Said that, u r telling me that being locked by 1 sin for 15 min at ur midlane Towers helped your faction? i guess with over 20b in ur inventory u can actually afford tele stones?
  • Arawin - Raging Tide
    Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Obviously we have different PoVs on TW, but w/e floats ur boat i think. Said that, u r telling me that being locked by 1 sin for 15 min at ur midlane Towers helped your faction? i guess with over 20b in ur inventory u can actually afford tele stones?

    If sending 15+ of your faction members back to base, unbuffed and sealed for 30 seconds... and distracting said R9rr sin (plus 3-5 of his squad members) isn't useful... I guess we could just agree to disagree I suppose. I still feel if one person can distract multiple people, they're doing a pretty good job. Especially when those multiple consist of R9 archers and R9rr sins.

    If I was your TW leader, instead of focusing on a target he has little chance of killing, I'd have that sin go and repeatedly kill one of many other clerics he could easily bring down. Then again, vicious has what... like 10+ sins, so maybe they have the luxury of wasting one or two.

    Oh and I had 20 tele incense in my inventory the whole TW. :P

    And random question... if healing those cata are soooooo important... why are you playing an Archer and not a cleric or mystic? :p
  • AriesBreath - Raging Tide
    AriesBreath - Raging Tide Posts: 689 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    And random question... if healing those cata are soooooo important... why are you playing an Archer and not a cleric or mystic? :p

    Because he's got me, and according to spell I'm 3 clerics and 2 mystics rolled into one.

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  • DirtySouth - Raging Tide
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    so u are saying that healing catas in TW isnt important? like only just the mighty Cleric class can immagine o.O? I srsly don't get ur points -.- ,

    Also Aries u suck, my actual cleric is 3 clerics and 2 mystics in one, u r just bad xD!
  • TruthWarren - Raging Tide
    TruthWarren - Raging Tide Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    TW video

    I actually had fun. Looking forward to more TWs.

    I feel like you played pretty well. Good vid.
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  • Arawin - Raging Tide
    Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    TruthWarren - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I feel like you played pretty well. Good vid.

    Thanks.

    @DS
    Sorry if my point was lost. Healing cata IS important. My point was, assuming you agree it's important, why aren't *YOU* doing it? Archers certainly aren't going to be healing. So why are you an archer and not a healer?

    I only bring it up because you seem to disapprove that I don't heal, yet you yourself don't heal either. To me, this seems a double standard.
  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    If sending 15+ of your faction members back to base, unbuffed and sealed for 30 seconds... and distracting said R9rr sin (plus 3-5 of his squad members) isn't useful... I guess we could just agree to disagree I suppose. I still feel if one person can distract multiple people, they're doing a pretty good job. Especially when those multiple consist of R9 archers and R9rr sins.

    Well it wasn't really distracting, considering my main job in that TW was to target and try to take down Clerics. And with you being the best geared Cleric in QQme, you were definitely one of my targets. I'm not sure if you notice how I play, but if I have a target in TW, I go for them until either I die, they die, or they get back behind their lines. It's not the best way to play, but it's my way, and it's fun xD. I repeated many times during my stream "well that didn't work", when I chased a target to my death.

    I'm a 2 shot sin nowadays, considering 6 pieces of my gear aren't even end-game sharded, and nothing of mine is NW upgraded except for the first tome, as well as having nothing of mine at +12 refines. So I don't really count as more than one person in a TW, whereas you, not only being end-game sharded and refined, but also a support class, can be easily counted as a huge threat in a group PvP environment.

    Everyone's deadlier in a group, but you're the class at a gear level whose threat gets amplified more when in a group versus when being alone than all of the other classes, so keeping you at those towers for 15 minutes attacking Vicious members around there instead of you being near your squad attacking our cata squads was good for Vicious.

    Sure sending the Vicious members around where you were back to our base unsealed and unbuffed helped, but it would have been more of an impact if you were sending our catapult squads back instead.
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  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I only bring it up because you seem to disapprove that I don't heal, yet you yourself don't heal either. To me, this seems a double standard.

    arawin, your a nice guy from what ive seen, so im going to say this as nicely as possible. WTF are you smoking? the difference between you healing and DS healing, is you are a cleric, he is an archer. he can heal even if he wanted to.
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  • Arawin - Raging Tide
    Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Skaitavia wrote: »
    Well it wasn't really distracting, considering my main job in that TW was to target and try to take down Clerics. And with you being the best geared Cleric in QQme, you were definitely one of my targets. I'm not sure if you notice how I play, but if I have a target in TW, I go for them until either I die, they die, or they get back behind their lines. It's not the best way to play, but it's my way, and it's fun xD. I repeated many times during my stream "well that didn't work", when I chased a target to my death.

    I'm a 2 shot sin nowadays, considering 6 pieces of my gear aren't even end-game sharded, and nothing of mine is NW upgraded except for the first tome, as well as having nothing of mine at +12 refines. So I don't really count as more than one person in a TW, whereas you, not only being end-game sharded and refined, but also a support class, can be easily counted as a huge threat in a group PvP environment.

    Everyone's deadlier in a group, but you're the class at a gear level whose threat gets amplified more when in a group versus when being alone than all of the other classes, so keeping you at those towers for 15 minutes attacking Vicious members around there instead of you being near your squad attacking our cata squads was good for Vicious.

    Sure sending the Vicious members around where you were back to our base unsealed and unbuffed helped, but it would have been more of an impact if you were sending our catapult squads back instead.


    Yeah. I guess you're kinda right. I don't think killing your members and sending them back to base buffless and sealed was *useless* by any means. Though you're probably right that I could have been more effective if I was helping killing your Cata squads. Excellent point, I'll keep that in mind in the future. (However I was having fun, so, that's also a point to keep in mind... since the entire point of online gaming is to have fun...)


    @Epro

    Exactly my point. If he cares so much about healing, and it's sooo important, why is he not a cleric/mystic healer?
    To make it clearer... he *could* have spent all his coins and geared out a pro mystic/cleric healer. However he *CHOOSE* to DD instead. I don't see how this is any different than my choosing to DD.
  • MonkyMann - Raging Tide
    MonkyMann - Raging Tide Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    No offense intended, Arawin, but your class (cleric) is oriented towards support and not DD, sure you can DD but it falls short compared to the classes that are meant for it. Not to mention putting yourself in harms way more than it's necessary (why make it easier for your opponents, eh?). Also think of all the people who are counting on you to help them stay alive/rezzed/buffed which would result in a stronger push for your team. You might like the "rush" of dealing/taking damage (who doesn't?) and you can still get it by dropping a Tempest (not in VD mode please) when you have extra chi but come on, pretending to be a valuable DD when you're not is very selfish. After all, TW is team effort and you get no personal benefit for being "Rambo" unlike in - NW where you are pretty much forced to DD as cleric, see? There's time and place for everything. Do you really think your DD + no heals > their heals/buffs/rezzes + damage all together? I mean, REALLY? There's no scenario where you could possibly convince me cleric DD is better than support except if it's dropping aoe then returning to a safe position to keep supporting.

    Imagine a veno who refuses to go in fox form to purge/amp because she likes human-form skills range more? Or a barb that likes pulling cata while DDing in human form? lol that would be such a mess >.<. What I'm trying to say is that everyone needs to play their role accordingly to their class, yes you can "spice it up" a little to your personal satisfaction but don't change it entirely. You have amazing gear that allows you to have a very reckless/fearless approach and that can be a good thing if you don't abuse, perhaps you ought to reevaluate the way you play and maybe your faction will gain a lot of power! You alone could be a big game-changer for QQme if you wanted to but not by the way you play atm. You yourself said you don't edit your videos so you can re-watch them and learn from your mistakes (hint hint), is about time you start. If you were truthful to you yourself you'll know your major flaw thinking you're a DD in VD mode limiting your support abilities and being always in the front lines. QQme isn't losing TW because lacks in numbers or gear it's because of that very same mentality everyone has been trying to snap you out from.

    As for your comments towards DS as to why he doesn't heal if he thinks is so useful, well, he can't help it because he's a DD class? You said he could have used his coins to reroll a healing class but why should he? he isn't the one playing his class wrong :X. Maybe he wish he had, seeing as arcanes became so OP at endgame with purify proc but that's not the point here. Healing, buffing, ressing is VERY important, more than DDing. You been a loyal member to QQme ever since I can remember and if you really want what's best for them (at least in TW) I exhort you to DD less and support more. I LOVE watching pro support clerics at work makes me wanna have them in my squad all the time.
  • Elvenne - Raging Tide
    Elvenne - Raging Tide Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I can honestly Vouch for Nuke_Cleric on ANYTHING he says about Clerics. I learned SO much from watching his videos that I would not be so well experienced without him. Take his advice and maybe one day you will walk the path of a CHAMPION like me and Mrs_Mav
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  • AriesBreath - Raging Tide
    AriesBreath - Raging Tide Posts: 689 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I don't really think this discussion will get anywhere.

    Arawin and I had a lengthy discussion regarding this very topic, and we ended up with the conclusion that people will just play however they want to play, regardless of effectiveness, as long as what they are doing is fun.
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  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    AriesBreath - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I don't really think this discussion will get anywhere.

    Arawin and I had a lengthy discussion regarding this very topic, and we ended up with the conclusion that people will just play however they want to play, regardless of effectiveness, as long as what they are doing is fun.

    This XD
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  • Arawin - Raging Tide
    Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    @Monkey
    Wow, I didn't expect that. I actually agree with your points. They're well written and make logical sense. Support probably WOULD be a better role for most clerics.

    I bring 3 questions though:

    1) If PW never intended for clerics not to DD, why were they given VD in the first place? It's pretty clear that VD is a DD only form. (And has many useful abilities that can only be accessed in VD form.) And similar to your point of Venos/Barbs who don't use fox/tiger form, I would feel I was wasting good abilities if I did not make use of violet form.

    2) Gear doesn't matter for support... so why would a well geared toon play support? What I mean here is that Arawin's res is no better than a R8+5 cleric's res. And Arawin's buffs are no better any lvl 90+ cleric with demon buff skills. So why should I let that gear go to waste and do the job any level 90 cleric an accomplish? This is probably the most important point to me.

    3) Goes +1 with what Aries said... if someone doesn't enjoy a role, they won't excel at it. I personally get no satisfaction out of buffing people. I doubt I ever will. If I was 'forced' to play this role, I'd probably get bored and simply leave TW after 20 minutes. And I guess I feel a DD cleric brings more to the TW table than an empty TW slot. Would you ask a cleric to play support if they didn't enjoy it?
  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    2) Gear doesn't matter for support... so why would a well geared toon play support? What I mean here is that Arawin's res is no better than a R8+5 cleric's res. And Arawin's buffs are no better any lvl 90+ cleric with demon buff skills. So why should I let that gear go to waste and do the job any level 90 cleric an accomplish? This is probably the most important point to me.

    Gear really does matter for support, because of two reasons:

    1.) As a support class, Clerics are usually high priority targets because of their res. Putting them out of commission means the enemies you do defeat can't get a "second life" after they go down the first time(s).

    2.) A dead support cleric can't do anything other than go back to base.


    Having the gear to be able to tank many hits while also supporting your squad with buffs, heals, and sleeping/SoGing high-DD targets of the enemy team is essential to winning in a group-related combat environment. It's no point in putting a R8+5 cleric in support when they will go down in a couple of seconds due to lack of gear to tank attacks.

    In the end, in PWI, gear matters in defense, offense, and support. But if it's for a team effort, then support is usually better. Sure you might not enjoy it as much as DDing, but think about it. A group win gives quite a lot of enjoyment as well. I mean, how did Vicious win a majority of the Tournaments where the final battle was 6 mid-geared Vicious that only had one support cleric and 6 QQme, 3 of which had completely endgame shards/refines, that had 3 Clerics (you, Clergy, and Mav, if I remember correctly)? Because Vicious's cleric played full support in making sure his squad didn't die. Sure that cleric didn't get the enjoyment of dealing damage to the opposing squad, but seeing his team to victory was probably more than worth it.

    Then again this is all from my opinion. I just see team wins where I still contribute as an enjoyment that's just as exciting as self-enjoyment. For example, in your case, I would find dealing damage and killing other players as enjoyable as winning the war because I supported my squad effectively.

    As another example, I would not mind being the Assassin scout in a TW where I call out every single movement of the opposing faction's players if it helps my faction to the point where we win. Sure it's not as enjoyable as digging my daggers into someone, but if my actions had an impact on winning a war, then that's another enjoyment I can sacrifice self-enjoyment for.


    It all boils down to having fun, even though what I wrote above looks like "win at all costs, even if you don't have fun", which is not what I was trying to say. I guess what I'm saying is "there are all types of fun/enjoyment to everyone".

    TL;DR: Aries's post.
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  • Azunai - Raging Tide
    Azunai - Raging Tide Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    #2 - R8+5 IH can't compare to a 700 Mag R9rr +12 IH. So does my 13k HP fully buffed can't compare to your 22k since you can be hitted 2x more before you die or, you proc and get the hell out of there... more heals and more survival!

    Here's the deal tho (do not read "here's the d i l d o" please) (why is d i l d o banned?):

    If you don't like it, you simply are your damn fully rights to not play like that. Its a matter of taste. And tastes can't be discussed. I rather go as puller and DD on a Delta than sit my *** in BB the whole time. I KNOW PULLING IN DELTA IS SOOOOO 2010. Who cares? I rather pull Lunar than sit my *** in BB. PVE wise I hate support role. But PVP is PVP and TW means sacrificing my personal choices in behalf of those who pay my charms at the end of the month with the TW pay. b:laughb:laughb:laugh
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  • DirtySouth - Raging Tide
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Azunai - Raging Tide wrote: »
    But PVP is PVP and TW means sacrificing my personal choices in behalf of those who pay my charms at the end of the month with the TW pay. b:laughb:laughb:laugh

    How much Dylena paid you to say this?
  • Azunai - Raging Tide
    Azunai - Raging Tide Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide wrote: »
    How much Dylena paid you to say this?

    b:cute
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  • MonkyMann - Raging Tide
    MonkyMann - Raging Tide Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I think of VD-mode as a boost given to clerics for 1v1 situations mostly. I can't find it as useful in group pvp because switching back and forth from it takes too long and for a cleric any second could be the difference between life or death. Mark of Weakness is a great crit amp and damage skill for someone with your SF but then again your primary support abilities are shut off and that, to me, is more important.

    I also noticed you don't use your debuffs very often on tanky targets or use your sleep to cancel BoAs. If I could make a request for your next video I'd like to see you not use VD at all, try support your squad more and if you DD make sure to debuff the enemy and heal yourself when taking damage (discourages the enemy when your HP doesn't move) and not getting yourself killed in the process.

    And I agree it's a game and everyone should play at their convenience, even if it's the wrong one... we all have our unique ways of having fun. I can only hope that one day you grow out of that playstyle and put my advice into practice instead. When I play my cleric I love watching the enemy try their hardest to kill me and not being able to, so much that they would give up and leave me for last. b:chuckle
  • Dylena - Raging Tide
    Dylena - Raging Tide Posts: 1,416 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide wrote: »
    How much Dylena paid you to say this?

    Hahahaha! That's what you get Mr JoSD, DoT is more beloved! b:laugh
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