Unable To Attack Veno Pets in NW

Arawin - Raging Tide
Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
edited July 2013 in Quality Corner
In this last NW (7/5/2013), I found I was unable to attack any Veno pets. I was able to attack mystic pets, but not veno pets. The main culprits was the new evolved herc and phoenix pet.

This is new in this patch. In previous patches I was able to attack veno pets.

This is *very* unfair and gives venos an unfair advantage in any "digging" map. (Such as cyrstal contest or capture the flag.) They merely need to send their indestructible pet to attack you while you dig the flag. The pet can also stun you. Usually you just turn and kill the pet, then continue on, as pets are weaker than players. But with indestructibility, the veno can sit in a bush hidden somewhere and stop someone from digging as long as they want with no risk.

Steps to reproduce:

1) Target a veno pet in enemy nation.
2) Cast an ability
3) Ability animation occurs. Mana and chi is used.
4) No damage is done to pet.


Edit: Spoke with a veno friend and they said their pet WAS dying in NW. Perhaps this bug was just affecting me?

Edit2: I tried fighting a veno (duel) after NW, and I could attack and kill her pet. So this is somehow related to nation war pets.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    In this last NW (7/5/2013), I found I was unable to attack any Veno pets. I was able to attack mystic pets, but not veno pets. The main culprits was the new evolved herc and phoenix pet.

    This is new in this patch. In previous patches I was able to attack veno pets.

    This is *very* unfair and gives venos an unfair advantage in any "digging" map. (Such as cyrstal contest or capture the flag.) They merely need to send their indestructible pet to attack you while you dig the flag. The pet can also stun you. Usually you just turn and kill the pet, then continue on, as pets are weaker than players. But with indestructibility, the veno can sit in a bush hidden somewhere and stop someone from digging as long as they want with no risk.

    Steps to reproduce:

    1) Target a veno pet in enemy nation.
    2) Cast an ability
    3) Ability animation occurs. Mana and chi is used.
    4) No damage is done to pet.


    Edit: Spoke with a veno friend and they said their pet WAS dying in NW. Perhaps this bug was just affecting me?

    I had that bug too, does your friend have a evolved pet? Apparently they need to call the pet in every war they enter, but I think a pet you can't hit cannot hit you either.
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Several of the evolved pets have (or can have) buffs that either reduce damage from players, or protect them from player attacks.
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  • Kattywompus - Dreamweaver
    Kattywompus - Dreamweaver Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I tested my evolved nix in NW tonight and pulled it out in every new map and my nix did absolutely no damage at all. I tested it when I was on the ground and the other player was also on the ground, same with air. This is very disappointing to say the least. Mystic pets were still doing damage as this was also tested.

    Also, veno flying pets have always been able to attack an air target from the ground, evolved they no longer do this.

    Please fix our pets in NW.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Several of the evolved pets have (or can have) buffs that either reduce damage from players, or protect them from player attacks.

    Reduce damage not cut the damage at 100% and the skill to no be able to be target is a few second, non a constant buff. I did try to AOE on the veno while the nix was next to her, the veno was taking damage and not the pet and I was AOEing for more than a few seconds.
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  • Arawin - Raging Tide
    Arawin - Raging Tide Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It's not that pets can't do damage to me. They can do damage. They can also stun me.

    The problem was I was unable to do any damage to veno pets. I know it's not the case for everbody, but it is most certainly a bug. I know the skills are going off because they take mana and the animation occurs like normal.

    Next NW if I am experiencing this bug, I will attempt to record a video demonstrating the problem.
  • Linc - Raging Tide
    Linc - Raging Tide Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    In one of the crystal battles , I saw a herc with a gold name. Aren't the pets supposed to have the same color name as the owner, blue or red?
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  • Untamed_pain - Archosaur
    Untamed_pain - Archosaur Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Evolved pets have like stealth skill and that new skills well some can. My pets have died in Nw last night and before just not as easy lol.
    untamed_pain demon veno 103-100-101
    SweetAzHoney Sage Cleric 102-currently rebirthing
    xXZoeMarieXx sage seeker 101-currently rebirthing
    StormyRainz Demon Mystic 101 Not rebirth yet
    EsmeStorms Demon wizzy 101 not rebirth yet
    UhitLikaGirl Almost sage barb 100 buffer
    and loads of other alts...
  • Wampirewoman - Harshlands
    Wampirewoman - Harshlands Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Arawin - Raging Tide wrote: »
    It's not that pets can't do damage to me. They can do damage. They can also stun me.

    The problem was I was unable to do any damage to veno pets. I know it's not the case for everbody, but it is most certainly a bug. I know the skills are going off because they take mana and the animation occurs like normal.

    Next NW if I am experiencing this bug, I will attempt to record a video demonstrating the problem.

    This happened to me also .
    And maybe u will say about the skill that the pet can't be targeted but i had target on him so that theory goes down .
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Untamed_pain - Archosaur wrote: »
    Evolved pets have like stealth skill and that new skills well some can. My pets have died in Nw last night and before just not as easy lol.

    That skill is 6 seconds not 5 minutes and as Wampire say we can target them, but not damage them so it's not that skill.

    I played my veno in TW today and everything was fine my nix was able to DD and also to die, so it's really only in NW.
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  • Kattywompus - Dreamweaver
    Kattywompus - Dreamweaver Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    My nix was fine in TW today as well. It does appear to be in NW only.
  • klys
    klys Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    When mystics or venos enter a new nw instance with a summon/pet out already the summon/pet will be unable to do damage and take damage. The solution is to resummon.
  • mol1
    mol1 Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    You should also fix where clerics kill evolved pets with a single shot using mark of weakness skill.
    That is unfair advantage too.
  • CynthiaDoll - Raging Tide
    CynthiaDoll - Raging Tide Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    How come in NW i get stuns from Nix and i cant move for minutes, i think i was stun 2 min , what skills they have? plus that i cant even kill them...it kinda sucks to get stun over and over and cant do nothing about it
  • Glycerin - Dreamweaver
    Glycerin - Dreamweaver Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Actually.. this bug has been around for years. For some reason, the game decides that a veno pet/mystic summon is an 'all class' pet. Flying pets seem to be the biggest issue from what I've experienced first hand aswell (Nixes unevolved or evolved especially).

    From my experience, TW and NW have this issue.

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