Earthguard.

The ticketing staff suggested you post it in Quality Corner? o.o That's interesting. This is really more of a General Discussion topic, or perhaps better yet, for the Mystic board. But you can't be blamed for following a suggestion. XD

I have a mystic of lv87, and so I can't comment on endgame mystics from personal experience. However, pre-endgame is really a mixed bag for them. For example, a mystic in their 70s would need to do BH59 runs, in which they are quite capable of being the primary healers. In the 80s, however, a mysic is not an appropriate solo healer for BH69 in most cases. This is due to the bosses in BH69 applying nasty debuffs which must be purged by a cleric ASAP to prevent squad wipes. But in the case of BH59, anyone who tells you a mystic isn't an acceptable substitute is ill-informed or just willfully ignorant.

Mystic is actually a very versatile class that can fulfill many roles, and while I personally find more fun in being the backup healer to a cleric, many mystics appreciate the challenge of playing solo healer in endgame runs. It's not always possible, because it really depends on the instance and your gear, but finding a workable balance of those things can be very satisfying. When I get my mystic to endgame (when I get around to it, anyway) I hope to experiment with solo-healing in BH SoT, Abbadon, and Metal (Rebirth and Lunar may not be viable with the type of gear I expect to use). In the meantime, he's totally capable of solo-healing in Frost, although opportunities to try it are rare.

Moral of the story is... take everyone with a grain of salt, and find your own road to success. This game has a disgustingly high percentage of people who will try to substitute their playstyles for yours as their only method of "helping." Avoiding peer pressure is key. So I would tell your guild leader to keep on going as he/she is, and when they reach endgame, build a good network of friends to run BH with. If all else fails, start the squads yourself; that way, if anyone complains about your class or gear, you're the one with the kick button.

Because many mystics are complete fail. But if he gets in a squad and is doing a good job, people will continue inviting him.

When my myst was 8x i had trouble getting into fc and bh squads as well. Then i was told that i have to be the main healer if i wanna join, and i said id try my best. Didnt take long that i was told to be a great healer ,got a friend request and was doing bhs and fc with nearly the same squad again and again xD

Thats how you can make sure to get squads with nearly every class. If you know your class and your job, then people will remember you and take you along even if youre not one of the popular classes.

Well I'm perfectly fine with a mystic being the solo healer, only if the mystic, as well as the squad is comfortable with it. Some are uneasy with a mystic solo healing at the higher end instances (as well as some exceptions in between) and prefer a cleric to heal. (buffs are also nice to have around)
Which to me is understandable, though I am very aware mystics can be excellent healers when played properly. I've also had my share of mystics who didn't have any idea what they were doing, even after insisting they could solo heal. >.>; (as well as some clerics, but that's a different story)

But as mentioned before, mystic is a jack of all trades class, can be a healer or a beast DD. I personally love them as a back up healer, because they can be very dangerous DDs, but if a situation gets hairy they can quick throw down some fast heals but then turn around and go back to killing.

But, every person plays differently and as mentioned above, don't listen to people who try to literally tell you what to do. Tips and Tricks could be helpful and people who genuinely want to help, but there are a lot of rude people with their noses in the air as well. It is a game after all, gotta have fun!

f:cute

I've seen a mystic that solo healed from wave 5 to wave 8 when our cleric dced. (she is awesome as a mystic), kept everyone alive (we were not an op squad either)

Ive also seen mystics that couldnt keep themselves alive through the rocks in aba.b:chuckle

As far as being excluded from squads, i think most (not all) classes have had this issue at some point. Barbs, wizards, psys, venos, archers. Yea, its annoying. b:surrender

To be fair and not seem biased towards mystics, ive also seen clerics die to the rocks in aba.b:surrender

If anything new abba is the "ideal" place for mystics, large aoe pulls they can craglord and they're an amazing secondary healer class. The onyl reason they arent used for main healing more often is buffs.

Ok, got my mystic to 81 and quit it lol. I didn't like being the healer if i wanted to be healing id be on my cleric... I get once in a while throwing a heal at someone but meh. Or maybe its cause my veno is 103 and i like my veno the best.

I know some great mystics! and i know some that aren't that great. although i have thought about leveling my mystic just so i can get her morai skills and she can be my own personal buff like alot of my other alts :Db:chuckle

Canis_Regis - Raging Tide wrote: »

--in 69 they need to purify...only cleric has that (i think one 89+ skill gives purify too, idk if sage or demon)

It's Sage Break in the Clouds, and Demon Comforting Mist. The latter seems pretty useless IMO as it's only a 35% chance on a slow-channeling AoE heal. The former is awesome because it's spammable, but its 25% proc would make it less than reliable (and even if you could rely on it, it'd only be useful in BH69 for one level anyway).

Canis_Regis - Raging Tide wrote: »

--at 100+ ppl got used to making squad with anything and a cleric

As I mentioned recently in the thread about squadding preferences... I'll gladly take a solo-healing mystic if they volunteer themselves as such. I don't assume a mystic is comfortable solo-healing unless they tell me so, but it's always nice to hear.

Canis_Regis - Raging Tide wrote: »

--mystic with salvation lvl 11 shielding work as good as BB, as long as the squad has enough dmg to kill the boss before the time on it ends

This should never be assumed, especially since one or two good AoEs will take down Salvation's shield for everyone. Again, I've never gotten a mystic to endgame yet, but I presume it's a combination of Salvation shields, Heal/Vital herbs (and respawning them if they get AoE'd), the occasional Comforting Mist, and spamming Break/Petals on the tank. You've gotta have a strategy for solo-healing that doesn't amount to "hope they can take down the boss before you need to do much healing anyway." :P

That said, in Frost I'll have Storm Mistress out so that I can contribute at least some damage, but then my Salvation isn't sage yet so there's not a lot of need to have her out unless I'm buffing the tank for a big pull.

Canis_Regis - Raging Tide wrote: »

--in 69 they need to purify...only cleric has that (i think one 89+ skill gives purify too, idk if sage or demon)

perpetuated myth that mystic cant do fb69 w/o puri just like long ago fcc fragrance when party used to do full fcc run.. only need salvation aegis/ws skill, if heals weak use martyr too.. work fine for polearm and gaurnob

--mystic with salvation lvl 11 shielding work as good as BB, as long as the squad has enough dmg to kill the boss before the time on it ends

in 100+ instances, esp revamped instance, aegis/ws are only good for 1 hit, after that effect wears off from higher dmg so 100+ it more like cleric wing of protection than bb

what make mystic tough is overcoming ppls lack of knowledge of the class and its strengths

Neferhotep - Lost City wrote: »

Comforting Mist is pretty useless imo. It takes way too long, even with -chan gear. I usually prefered healing/vit herb or Break on everyone who is low on health, the herbs healing enough IF they survive for dds. In case of aggro ping pong putting Petals on dds is nice as well and shields, but i aggree that salvation does shine at pulls way more than on Boss AoEs.

In most cases, salvation isnt a summon to have outside the whole run (whatever youre doing). Because at higher lvls Mistress IS needed. Youre fighting "?" Bosses most of the time and Mistress is just great at it. If im the main healer and we have a decent tank i prefer spend my time healing more and let the mistress dd than using salvation and have to heal less, but dd a a bit more. At 100 with r8 +7 weapon what is pretty weak gear today, my salvation does about the 5-6x damage of mine to "?" bosses. If needed i put a shield on someone and resummon mistress, but usually normal heal and herbs were enough for many squads.

if ur primarily a healer/debuffer anyway then storm is good to have.. only on lvl 150 mob

but for someone who have decent gear and not r8 it depend on how much time they have spent healing storm if its worth it, more time used for heal storm mean less time for dd and debuff

developers need understand when u revamp several instance need to also upgrade weakest part of classes like pets... already mystic pets look weak for end game player and many time pointless to have

only ever use salvation for start of bosses or pulls to make initial dmg lesser then pet either die from aoe or have to spent too much time healing it to keep alive

chihyu annoying to try and use pvp or instance like nw/tw... often follow ppl around doing nothing, completely useless endgame pve

storm have "ok" dmg on weak geared ppl or on lvl 150 mobs for low gear/bad dmg players

endgame mystic pet not much useful, early lvls ie < 100 much better