DoT vs Vit?

i'd shard +2 attack and restat to vit.

HideYoHubby - Archosaur wrote: »

You re actually off, JoSD offers HA a lot more than it does to LA, havent seen/done calculations

Hmm, don't think I am. An argument can be made for the vit stones offering diminishing returns as going from 10k-12k is a 2k hp and 20% gain, while going from 12k-14k is still 2k more hp but only 14% gain. I personally consider 2k hp to be worth 2k hp and don't really consider those as diminish returns because enemy damage scale doesn't change with our hp.

I also consider the "diminishing returns" of increased defenses to be false. People say it's diminishing because going from 50% reduction to 51% reduction may only take 500 def, while going from 80% to 81% takes 2500 def and both give you 1% more reduction. But 1% more reduction at 50% means you are taking 2% less damage, while 1% more reduction at 80% means you are taking 5% less damage.

So my argument is that vit is better for HAs because 1. they get more hp per vit and 2. they have more defense for the vitality multipliers to effect and overall the gain of hp and the increased defenses of vit is better than the damage reduction of JoSD.



JoSDs do two things, first they reduce enemy attack levels in this manner:damage taken = damage delivered * ( 1 + ( attack level - defense level ) / 100 ).

Secondly, they reduce the damage taken. But, lets be honest, you will almost never (Never.) have more def levels than your opponent has attack levels. For endgame pk you're probably looking at your opponent having 140 atk level to your 60 def if you've sharded full JoSD. So you're looking at reducing their damage by about 21%. My argument is due to massive attack levels, its usually better to increase your own ability to take damage (with more hp and more def) rather than reduce your opponents ability to deal damage.

So, lets say you are HA with good defenses and have 80% pdef reduction. You take only 20% damage, then defense levels kick in and reduce that another 21%, which is only 4.1% more total reduction. All you would have to do to get the same 4% more total reduction would have been to increase defense by 2% instead of using def levels. Now lets say you are LA with mediocre defense and have 60% reduction. You take 40% damage, def levels reduce that another 21% so you take 31.6% total damage. Since LA doesn't reduce as much damage your def levels played a bigger roll and reduced 8.4%. That's why I argue JoSD for LA.

If you get gear to +12 then id say go +2att lvl (if josd is out of the question as u say)

ps: How does a sin kill a catabarb? (between apoth, invoke and genie skill they can pretty much have perma damage reduction, aside them being 40k hp charmed adorable balls of fur b:surrender)