jr videos??

They can not post videos if they didn't win. Goes against everything they believe in b:laugh

Since Longknife has given us a lot of definitions of what a fail guild is and that if it can not beat weakest guilds on server in TW; I wonder if you are going to disband CRJ now? It would be right course of action considering you urge everyone else to disband once they don't measure up to your standards.

Here let me put it in your own words, (there is plenty of material for that I only have to open one thread)

My point is these factions fail at TW because their faction leaders don't have the proper mindset to be TW leaders. They're blatantly ignoring problems within their own guilds, all too anxious to ignore them, shocked as hell when those very same problems bite them in the rear on the TW scene. They're self-interested and would gladly repeatedly lead 80 people off a cliff if it means ~45mil extra in their own pocket. They're incapable of recognizing the most basic changes within their own guild roster and understanding how those changes can completely cripple their future ability to TW as they once did.


Unfortunately, I doubt any of those guilds have leaders willing to pass lead on to someone else, lest they scar their egos by admitting they can't lead TW. Nah, it's better to give it another 3 years of frivilous attemps; surely lightning will strike and their guild will suddenly be awesome.

I'm saying that three years of the leaders driving poorly or insisting on traveling down the wrong road is enough: that's proof they have and ALWAYS WILL make the wrong decisions. Let someone else drive (get new leaders), follow a different path (different guild) or both. But don't sit here following the same f***ing failure plan over and over, then b***h at me for being a "jerk" because I tell you the truth about how your current guild will never accomplish everything.

I could keep going I mean you do talk a lot. Maybe its time for action now? By your own criteria, what the hell did CRJ accomplish exactly? I'm not even sure if you beaten Exile (no offense to Exiles), and besides that scheme of yours to **** up Mayhem with 5 way stack, what good did you do for server this season? Will you be the egoistic leader and keep your own guild to profit from few lands or you gonna follow your own advice and let people go to other guilds?

Btw, just one more thing. All that talk you gonna come after Mayhem to see if you can beat us. Shame on you. You had 5 chances, you didn't even bother to show up and give it a try.b:shutup

Being stacked means you need to give priority to the one(s) you think or know you can defend if none of the guilds will wait. Unfortunately for you, this means we defend Kylin over Mayhem.

We will always wait for you just ask. However I fail to see purpose. You are struggling with Kylin's finest 35, while Mayhem would bring 80. It would be over in a push.

Point being, Longknife has put some goals in front of you this season. You have failed in every task that matters. And even tho "sure" victory was announced against all guilds except Mayhem, you lost to Kylin lately. If you believe Mayhem should disband for whatever reasons you believe in it, how come that doesn't apply to CRJ?

Rule #1 is that you gotta have fun, after all. I did enjoy those Kylin wars and then the Valalala wars kinda.

Btw when I brought up argument about having fun last TW season, I was crucified by hate posts and continuously convinced that our fun is ruining server because we are so "fail" *rolleyes*

Well first of all you see that my question was actually directed to Longknife. You wanted to give your opinion on it, you did so I replied again. That doesn't change a fact I called out Long for saying ****, not you, or anyone else.

However since you engaged yourself in discussion, which I'm glad you did, let me ask you this:

Are you claiming that we don't get to "have fun" because we are main guild and not alt guild?

You just end up playing stack **** every season and wondering why we don't like you

This is fail argument as your own guildies organized Mayhem stack few weeks back. So its okay if you do it, but not ok if we do it? Or do you suggest that all guilds, after there is no longer easy fights on map, should just retire and wait 5 months for new map to come?

Your leader even PMed Armani and asked why Dark bothered showing to the last war of the season when it "didn't matter anyway".

SS or it didnt happen, please.

Some guilds are happy with what they have and don't want to change. That's okay. It's not going to stop me or others from criticizing it though. It also won't stop people from leaving if they want more out of a guild.

Since we are criticizing, why don't you clean your back yard first? Dark is being pulled around by Infamous, not sure if its two guilds anymore, or one guild and one leadership. Fake bids? Yeh you guys definitely have talent for that. Catalyst / CRJ / Dark / Infamous all one guild, sucking up money from server, and when someone DENYS to make alliance with you, you get mad. And yes, Dark has offered us a corner on map if we don't bid them. And yes we did deny. AND that is why you don't "like us."

Nothing to post Yuyi. Our recent TW's were... wined sadly.

So CrJr-Infamous-Dark-Catalyst suck up the server money cos we are the "devils" of HL , yet Crimson -Mayhem-Exiles-Insanity-fake Mayhem Insanity - WASP ( that was on the map)-BankaiGod -- i don't know which of your allies i missed now -- don't get money from lands or don't suck up server's money cos seems u share with all server or something .

Sorry forgot you are the "angels" of HL but it's funny how i read on some forums that some of those "angels" wish we suffer in real life or to see our families suffering or even to die in real life , etc etc . Not nice thoughts from the "angels" .

Cos u say CrJr-Dark-Infamous-Catalyst then i have the right to say Crimson-Mayhem-Exiles-Wasp etc .
Also now u will deny u share players? U don't have Crimson alts in your guild? Also u don't have WASP people ? Doesn't Crimson have alts in WASP or any other combination? So yeah u share characters also .
If by a miracle Infamous wants to give all the money to CrJr people or Dark want to give money to Infamous where is the problem? It's same thing like by a miracle i want to give 100 mil coins to a friend? Why this concerns you?
And the thingy with "angels" and "demons" i got it from some players that are from your own guild or allies .
And i think i talked nice enough and not try to flame you or something so don't try to call me delusional before u think? But seems calling people names comes from many factors such as education , life environment and so on .
But if you want to go on this path , no problem i can try to join your game . b:bye

please, infamous and dark was catalyst, catalyst was zulu, zulu was the start of this. so infamous and dark essentially is zulu, its still the same band of people under a different name

Hey Adal. =D

You are allied with Crimson, Crimson use Insanity as alt faction to get more money, but you trash talk other guilds claiming they suck the server's money. How do you call what Crimson is doing? You are allied with a faction sucking server's money and if you tell me you don't know it you are a hypocrite or a idiot at your choice.

At least Dark use their money to help their members to gear up which is not the case of a lot of factions on the map including Crimson. (I have no idea what infamous do with their money and I don't care)



3 years and not a single coin from a faction using alt guild to get more money.

So if you want to trash talk guilds sucking server's money start by your precious allies like Crimson that do use a alt faction, but don't even share the coins with their own members.

RankNine - Momaganon wrote: »

when i was your age, tw was about fun, not coins. if you want coins, do BH on the 15 chars you guys got from ppl that quit.

No want to gimme their accounts. =x

And I don't have 10 thousand dollars to buy accounts like some people do on HL. =P

...****ing hell. Let this be the last giant post I ever make on this forum, please.

Adalgiso - Harshlands wrote: »

Well first of all you see that my question was actually directed to Longknife. You wanted to give your opinion on it, you did so I replied again. That doesn't change a fact I called out Long for saying ****, not you, or anyone else.

This is a public forum. If you wish to talk to Longknife and no one else, kindly use the PM feature this forum provides you with.

However since you engaged yourself in discussion, which I'm glad you did, let me ask you this:

Are you claiming that we don't get to "have fun" because we are main guild and not alt guild?

I am not. However, I have always said that the ultimate goal of a TW guild, specifically main guilds, should be to own the map. My view has not changed. Unfortunately, you don't always get to have fun this way. This is partially the reason you see alt guilds pop up every season.

Catalyst did not have many fun TWs at all. For various reasons. Yeah, we owned the map, but there just wasn't that many fun TWs. This is why you ended up seeing a lot of us with alts in Kylin at the time to fight Crimson. Because those usually were fun wars (and watching Crimson rage is funny, okay). This is also partly why DEMACIA was created.

Also, if you wanted fun wars last season, you could have just attacked Omerta. I'm sure those would have been fun wars at the time. But you didn't. Instead you, once again, planned on being a stack ***** until the end. You didn't WC every week for some fun guild to attack you like Sacrament did or basically shop around for fun wars like Kylin ended up doing. No, you were just a ******n stack *****.

This is fail argument as your own guildies organized Mayhem stack few weeks back. So its okay if you do it, but not ok if we do it? Or do you suggest that all guilds, after there is no longer easy fights on map, should just retire and wait 5 months for new map to come?

People in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones. The shards do hurt. You might want to consider it probably wouldn't have happened if it weren't for your prior history.

What of your Omerta+Mayhem+whoever else planned stack on Infamous at the beginning of last TW season? When we first got wind of it, we were getting like 30 people on for TW and I'd say maybe half of those were used to working with each other from Catalyst. The other half were people we'd recruited, but never really worked with before like wamp's group. Both Omerta and Mayhem would have easily had 60-80 at the time. This is essentially what made us push for the Dumass merge as well as approaching Dark about working together to systematically clean Omerta+Mayhem off of the map last season. Dark accepted because they knew they would be next after we were cleaned off and Crimson would not be lifting a damn finger to help them whenever it happened despite whatever relations they still had at the time. Yes, your **** is the sole reason why we started working with Dark. Congratulations. If you hadn't decided to do that, things probably would have ended up a lot differently.

We can also point to Mayhem and WASP stacking Dark with Crimson later on last season. And before you bring up Infamous+Dark stacking Crimson, Dark only started attacking Crimson when Crimson started bidding them instead of continuing to 1v1 Infamous. Crimson routinely gets 110-120 online for TW. This was enough to about equal whatever Infamous and Dark got on at the time. Really don't need your help whatsoever, tbh.

SS or it didnt happen, please.

Ask Armani for it.

Since we are criticizing, why don't you clean your back yard first? Dark is being pulled around by Infamous, not sure if its two guilds anymore, or one guild and one leadership.

Careful, bro. You're treading really close to Barbapapa = Ashez/Curses = Fury tinfoil hat territory here.

Fake bids? Yeh you guys definitely have talent for that. Catalyst / CRJ / Dark / Infamous all one guild, sucking up money from server, and when someone DENYS to make alliance with you, you get mad. And yes, Dark has offered us a corner on map if we don't bid them. And yes we did deny. AND that is why you don't "like us."

Dude, we offered you ****ing land to stay the bloody hell out of what was happening. I would have taken the offer and just used that coin to gear up people in guild for next season instead of pointlessly stacking Dark and wasting coin. Also, if you're going to ***** about fake bidding, should I point out that you guys tried to fake bid yourselves off the map last season as well when Dark had you down to one land?

I never wished for you to suffer in real life either.

I could provide you with a choice screenshot of a conversation I had with one of your members a couple months back if you wish, but it would have to be done via PMs due to naming and shaming rules.

As for infamous dark catalyst crj and all other guilds you control and putting money in same pocket, I really think its like against TOS or some sht like that.

I want you to tell me who exactly you think is collecting all of the money from these individual guilds. Choose wisely.

Concern is gaining unfair advantage over other guilds. One structure, few people in control, lots of alts and kaboom. You get 3-4 lands in one week, while all others get 1 land. And you get your 3 lands under few people in command. All money goes to same pocket. That is my concern.

You say this while both you and Crimson still have your alt guilds on the map with Crimson's alt guild owning multiple lands while yours holds a land you can make Sutra pots and Shadow Binders at. Remember that thing about glass houses?

Nick_Hydro wrote:

please, infamous and dark was catalyst, catalyst was zulu, zulu was the start of this. so infamous and dark essentially is zulu, its still the same band of people under a different name

Pretty sure Nurfed =/= Barba and Curses =/= Jekel and Shootn =/= SinSoul and Armani.

Infamous was essentially made up of the Catalyst that came back after quitting for a few months for D.3. and G.W.2, some Kylins, some ex-Omerta, and then the Dumass that came over in the merge. Dark is basically the Catas that didn't quit along with a bunch of Absinthes and CrimsonJrs. Neither guild is Catalyst or Zulu. They do not have the same exact guild composition.

So Adalgiso try at least to get people names right .

So enlight me how do u manage to convince yourself that you are absolute right about everything u say and u can't be at least 1% wrong? Are u in possession of the absolute truth ? b:angry Then don't be greedy and share .

Next u admit you have an alt guild that holds Stairway to Heaven if i'm not mistaken but i know it must be the only land where u can make sutra pots and u have no advantage of it? Then for sure no one with alts there has a clue what apothecary means including you . Btw stop saying that (fake) Insanity is not related to you since i saw some of your guild members having alts in there . But if you want to look nice on forums for the GM's keep doing it cos we all know who's guild is it .

This Mayhem thingy or PWI is somehow ur 2nd real life or primary one? You think about our guild's money and our alliances and mains and alts and so on and moves and that our stacks are not good but yours are motivated f:strive and every possible scenario that pops-up in your mind . And i say this comparing what you say with me . As an active member of the server and Infamous i never went to ask Eoria or Jekel what they do with the money or what they don't and for sure i am not curious what Crimson/Insanity does with their money or what u , Mayhem/(fake)Insanity , do with your money . Not that i blame you or something , but in my mind this is way too much . All in all it's a game and u make it sound so complicated .

All in all thank you for the break b:surrender now going back to study .... see you in next post .

Adalgiso - Harshlands wrote: »

Problem is if your guild has other guilds which they suck money from to main guild and than uses it. And yes that is against TOS.

Adalgiso - Harshlands wrote: »

I actually am saying I would get banned if they would use criteria they used on Dain as well...

^ Remember that?

You admitted yourself, be against the TOS and said that you would get ban if you get reported.

You do stuff against the TOS yourself. So if you don't like people doing stuff against the TOS, stop doing it yourself first before tell other people they are wrong. It's like a adult that will smoke in the face of a kid, but will tell the kid to don't do it.

You say that Crimson being against the TOS is not your concern so in what the other factions being against the TOS is more your concern than Crimson your own ally? You should be more concern by your allies (friends) than some random factions. If I see my friend and a stranger steal something in a store do I'll go see the stranger first to tell him to don't do that? No I'll tell my friend first that what she do is wrong. so before tell other factions that it's bad to do stuff against the TOS start by your allies/friends. Unless you don't give **** about what can happen to them, in that case I would not like to have you as friend.

You are here with your mouth saying ''Dark and Infamous are against the TOS'', you are against the TOS yourself, so do your faction and your allies, you are not better than anyone else on HL.

^ Remember that?

You admitted yourself, be against the TOS and said that you would get ban if you get reported.



Who doesn't do that...? Longknife drops marshal in Dark so he can run CRJ but has he really fooled anyone? That rule is bullsht. Officer in any guild is just a mask, you can do all the stuff you usually do if you are an officer even without a title.

r9rr psy married the barb that u play it. I bet now u know who i mean and stop pretending .

R9rr psy you talk of is married to me, I assume, and is not leader of Insanity. Mayhem has no ties to Insanity and Insanity is not Mayhem alt guild. -Mayhem- Is our alt guild.

Further more, fake insanity you refer to is original Insanity actually 4 years old.
If you want fake insanity talk to flash or whoever is leader

You keep avoiding any questions by accusing others of things they aren't doing. Not really constructive

YabbaDabba - Harshlands wrote: »

^ Remember that?

You admitted yourself, be against the TOS and said that you would get ban if you get reported.



Who doesn't do that...? Longknife drops marshal in Dark so he can run CRJ but has he really fooled anyone? That rule is bullsht. Officer in any guild is just a mask, you can do all the stuff you usually do if you are an officer even without a title.



R9rr psy you talk of is married to me, I assume, and is not leader of Insanity. Mayhem has no ties to Insanity and Insanity is not Mayhem alt guild. -Mayhem- Is our alt guild.

Further more, fake insanity you refer to is original Insanity actually 4 years old.
If you want fake insanity talk to flash or whoever is leader

You keep avoiding any questions by accusing others of things they aren't doing. Not really constructive

Me saying about ban and reporting to thing related to TW and lands? I think we are not on same page unless u replied to another post and u forgot to mention the person .

And about the r9rr psy and so called let's say fake Insanity yeah sure .
b:angry How dare u PWI to show that the faction that holds Stairway to Heaven have members in Mayhem ? How PWI dares to show that the leader of that guild is an alt of a Mayhem officer ? b:sad Soon they can't deny it anymore or will do it in a -meh- manner .
Tbh i don't care that u hold land with alt and alt of alt of another alt .
Just don't point fingers to others when you are in same situation . This is like a "thief" points to another and shouts "thief" .
Even if i repeat myself i don't care about alts of alts in alt guilds and TW reports and bans related to tw .

Why so much QQ and rage on forums cos who is who's alt also where Infamous money go , who joins what guild and why etc etc . Let's keep all this for the actual game like pvp and in game TW not forums rage and also i don't speak for any guild here , it's just my personal point of view .

At this rate I don't think Dark would be able to defend against an alt guild...