RT server 20k token price

Hmm, maybe Kitty should save a bit now to start returning the token market to how it should be. Like Salari said, those token sellers are exceptionally greedy atm, so Kitty thinks they should be tamed a bit.f:fume

Just wondering if the apoths from a lvl 6 Apoth Lab in a faction base would work well enough to help the barbs & folks out ? Might do base quests if they can. Then, crab & herbs aren't needed as much.

b:bye

Breannak - Raging Tide wrote: »

I guess its time to start buying packs!

f:hehe

here is the pack content of a Pack

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

money trap ijs because ull buy a lot of pack THINKING get something nice but TOKENS only lol

AlphaOmegaX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Get rid of all packs, have all items currently avaiable in packs. Put them for sale in the Boutique and sell different packs with tokens only in for a cut price.

Job done.

Packs are a rip off. Period. If the dev's want to keep them as part of the games marketing stratgey then at least make them cheaper to buy.r

IIRC Tiger packs, the most lucrative one..still(?) are the cheapest packs out of all them. At least the last time I checked. Don't really care for the cash shop these days.


..I can't remember the last time I had to buy tokens from someone.

Dreamweaver tokens are still cheap as hell f:naughty

trands wrote: »

I don't agree here. I think the main reason of token prices going up is that packs are less and less bought since there aren't much desirable items in there anymore. A while back they could buy packs with the gamble of having some cool/expensive items. Nobody sane in their mind would buy packs with the goal to gain tokens. They buy packs because it can have something rare/expensive knowing that at the very least they will get tokens which are usefull.

Those who don't really farm and put money in it to sustain their character will always charge zen, but not necessarily buy packs with it. It's funny how you paint off rich ppl as being idiots throwing money all around.

Agree on all points.

Token prices aren't driven by gold prices. They are driven by the supply:demand ratio.

There are fewer tokens in the system because packs are not being bought as much. They're not being bought as much because the general perception is that they're a rip-off and because the power creep has put fewer low-to-mid-level players in the game, looking to "hit the lottery" with a great get from a pack.

Fewer packs = fewer tokens = tokens easier to sell at high prices = tokens sold at high prices

FYI: Archosaur tokens have gone up but are still way cheaper than the subject of this thread.

Of course there is SOME relationship, but in the current token-price fluctuation, I believe it is a minimal factor.

Several months ago, token prices in Archosaur shot up, even though the price of gold was very stable. PWI put on a big sale on packs (subsidized by prizes) and tokens flooded the market. The price of tokens came back down, though the price of gold was virtually unmoved.

Why don't we get Donald Trump to buy billions of packs, open them, and sell tokens for 1 coin each? b:laugh

What happened to the good ol' days when people used charms and NPC pots b:chuckle

Kittysama - Raging Tide wrote: »

Kitty doesn't like prices being high as high prices are only good for merchants)f:angry.
Merchants don't like too low prices.f:shame

Actually, when I'm doing tokens, I don't particularly like high prices more than low prices. Higher priced tokens move much more slowly than lower priced ones.

I went out to the west banker earlier and saw at least one person buying over a full stack (i.e. more than 9999) at 16k. Overall it looks like the buy/sell price has settled around 16k/17k. While 1k seems like a nice profit margin, it's not really that great if you aren't moving much. It's been a while since I bothered with that market, so I'm not sure how fast/slow it's going, but I'm guessing it's got to be slow for the prices to be that high.

It almost kinda makes me wanna sell my 2 stacks that I have stashed in my bank. b:chuckle

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

I remember once, when tokens were selling for 10k, or even some for a little under, I bought out every freaking catshop selling them in West on Sanctuary for book clips.

It's too expensive to really play right now, just coasting along on what I have left, which isn't much. I need to resupply perfect chi stones and HP/MP food, but... I'm not going to for a while. I've run out of genie stamina on most of my characters, so there's not much I'm really even doing at all.

I've been hoarding my personal token stash (not to be confused with the lot I was tossing about when I was merchanting them) since the last really good pack sale (i.e. the one that ended in January 2012). I'm actually surprised I have as many left as I do.

Prices are probably going to go even higher tomorrow night. They always seem to spike up right before NW, especially so if one or two people buy out everyone else and jack up the prices.

Haila - Sanctuary wrote: »

I've seen EoO prices getting jacked up recently by merchants also from 600-900k to 1,8-2,1m now. Event shards, perfect chi and low manufacturing mats same story.
Merchants dont care about the high prices they create for other players, all they care about is making coins and one shot you in nw lol.
All we can do is dont buy from merchants and farm it ourselves, ok tokens are not farmable thats a difficult task to farm ourselves XD. Buy less !!!! Stop the greed of merchants, dead to all merchants b:chuckle

Only the bad merchants will do this independent of other prices rising and it's a common misconception made by those who don't have a clue how merching works.

It's almost always better to be able to sell a large amount of low priced items than to sell very few higher priced items. And as prices rise fewer people will be willing to buy which means that you'd get stuck with all your coin invested in just a few things that sell slowly... which screws you over in the long run compared to someone that can keep coin flowing at a rapid rate.

No good merchant is going to want to jack prices up because they'd rather sell 100 items getting a 1% profit each (and thus keep their assets liquid and able to switch markets easily to take advantage of any sales or the like) than wait ten times as long to sell 10 items at a 10% profit each.

While that doesn't mean they won't raise their prices if the market values start changing and they have to raise to keep a profit, it does mean that merchants aren't going to randomly decide "I think I'll raise the prices on my X and **** myself over with having my competition that's undercutting me outsell me by a fair margin and then restock much faster than I can!".


tl;dr: Unless you have enough random idiots on your server or a few people rich enough to buy out EVERYONE and continue to do so on a regular basis, prices raising will have more to do with supply, demand, and the cost of other resources relative (IE: Gold price) than some random person trying to raise prices purposefully.

Its not bad merchanting if u have the coins available, my examples are evidence.
U make the same profit over time only the prices went up for customers lol