My sin goal, advice?

Nibaki - Heavens Tear
Nibaki - Heavens Tear Posts: 300 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Assassin
This is what i am aiming for within the next month or two.

Updated- http://pwcalc.com/e0ccdf698aa9ffc5

I'm just wondering, is there anything i should change. And dont say something like, get full +12 and shard with dot's instead. And a pan gu/Love: Up And Down is out of the question for now.


BTW is a demon sin. I don't plan to pvp with this toon.
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  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'm no expert on sins, by far, but...why so much strength? I'm just curious, is all.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited May 2013
    You have a super standard APS setup and have given us no goals on just what you want to do with the character. The only thing we can really say is better shards/refines as your budget allows. Perhaps switch the band for a better ring but really that's about it.

    Only concrete thing we can say without any info on what you want for the sin is to lower your str some since, assuming you're not trying fists for whatever reason, you have a great deal more str than you actually need even without taking equipment bonuses into account.
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  • Nibaki - Heavens Tear
    Nibaki - Heavens Tear Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I had that much since i was wearing the warsoul helm before. Required 117 strength. My future goal is probably r8 recasted.

    And when i get a sale for the resets im going to buy one and restat lower
  • Nibaki - Heavens Tear
    Nibaki - Heavens Tear Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Another question, how much would it cost to make the legs shadow ashura?
  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Nibaki - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Another question, how much would it cost to make the legs shadow ashura?

    Very little, participate once in NW and you should have more than enough tokens to do that. You would lose your set bonus -int though while your really want more -int instead as that allows you to upgrade your weapon to G16 and keep your 5aps.

    I would advise you to step back from immaculate gems to flawless. That will save you some 15m coins. Pu t those into making your weapon G16 and rerolling it to have -int on it. Even though you will be 4aps even when you have a -int on it, it still far outshines your current weapon.
  • Nibaki - Heavens Tear
    Nibaki - Heavens Tear Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur wrote: »
    Very little, participate once in NW and you should have more than enough tokens to do that. You would lose your set bonus -int though while your really want more -int instead as that allows you to upgrade your weapon to G16 and keep your 5aps.

    How would i lose int o.o updated leggings http://pwcalc.com/c43e55a8ab76b2c0
  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Oh read wrong, i thought you were talking about boots since your leggings are g15 already. :p No of course you dont lose anything then :)

    Its not really an upgrade though. Its more of a downgrade. You dont change one into the other. You make one from just TT mats, the other needs lunar mats. Shadow (TT mats) is cheaper but untradable.

    So what to do:

    1) Spend less on shards since you may want to replace them in the future anyway and a million for 10 HPs is relatively pricy anyway. (compared to refining your helm)

    2) Bother your Facebook friends with unwanted advertisement to get a blessing. Make a FB acc if you dont have one.

    3) Start working on upgrading weapon to G16. You may want to first save until you can also reroll it 10-15 times or so since it is a bit sucky when you dont have -int on it.

    4) Now that you are down to 4 APS (but with double the damage per hit) you start saving for that -int tome to regain your 5APS.

    5) Refine more

    6) swap your flawless shards for end game shards.
  • Nibaki - Heavens Tear
    Nibaki - Heavens Tear Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur wrote: »
    1) Spend less on shards since you may want to replace them in the future anyway and a million for 10 HPs is relatively pricy anyway. (compared to refining your helm)


    actually 700-750k to make yourself. But that's on HT so it may be different.

    But ty for reply ^-^
  • mrqwertyty
    mrqwertyty Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Perhaps, the best thing you can do it's not refining ur daggers and if you don't have them already, don't get them. Making g13 + refining it +7 would cost you around 100mil. with that money u can buy g16 daggers with int on them (if u wait for a good offer). Otherwise (normal offer) g16 are around 120 mil with int.
  • VipertheElf - Sanctuary
    VipertheElf - Sanctuary Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Nibaki - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Another question, how much would it cost to make the legs shadow ashura?

    it cost 30mils around in my server but why would u want to change???? G15 lunar legging is tradable and has more pdef/mdef than nirvy.and if you change your legging, you'll miss attack lvl bonus.....waste of coins.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    These two comments are the advice I'd recommend:
    VipertheElf - Sanctuary wrote: »
    why would u want to change???? G15 lunar legging is tradable and has more pdef/mdef than nirvy.and if you change your legging, you'll miss attack lvl bonus.....waste of coins.

    Lunar is about 15m more expensive to make than TT N2, and all that cost is just in the base needed before Nirvana. However, Lunar gives better defenses, more hp, (+180 hp vs +10 vit=130hp) and is tradable. Considering its an "endgame" aps piece I'd recommend going Lunar but if you're really on a budget go with the inferior Shadow's Ashuras. The 4% pdef and mdef bonuses will not equal lunar's naturally higher base defense until you've refined your ornaments to about +11.
    mrqwertyty wrote: »
    Perhaps, the best thing you can do it's not refining ur daggers and if you don't have them already, don't get them. Making g13 + refining it +7 would cost you around 100mil. with that money u can buy g16 daggers with int on them (if u wait for a good offer). Otherwise (normal offer) g16 are around 120 mil with int.

    Barrier Thorns are great for sages but suck for demons. They are weak daggers who's only redeeming quality is their aps and the ability to permaspark. They are even out dd'd by your free rank 8 daggers if you have a tome.

    You chose not to include a 250m -int tome in your build but have daggers with about 140m in refines on them that suck. Priorities are a little backwards here.

    I'd suggest farming the tome as a priority and then skipping G13s. Go G15s and then G16s. G16 damage with a tome will about double G13 damage.



    I also agree with Hruns on the priority of flawless over immacs. 6 pieces of armor x 3.5 (ave sockets)=21 socket spaces. Flawless run 100k-150k, Immacs run around 800k. So 21 x 680k= 14.28m coin for 210 hp. That seems like a bad deal to me.

    I am a sin who believes defense > hp. I'd rather take less damage than have more hp to lose because its easier to replace with bloodpaint heals. I'd focus on ornament refines first.
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  • Nibaki - Heavens Tear
    Nibaki - Heavens Tear Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Ty all for help, think i got it a bit more figured it.
  • zehrullez
    zehrullez Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Anybody can tell me which is more expensive: to do 'top' items for BM or for Assassin ?
  • Deadalus - Harshlands
    Deadalus - Harshlands Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    TOP gear?

    Same price.

    R9r3+12 JOSD with +12 Ornies

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