Why the Heck are sins OP!?
Joe - Momaganon
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Honestly, tell me why sins are OP in this game? They are not, in the end they are one of the weakest classes of all in this game!
While it is true that sins are somewhat strong in the low end segment of this game, they just don't stand a flying chance in mid-range and end-game no matter how well geared they are unless they don't outgear their opponents by a huge rate.
Sins are mostly laughable in NW, in 1on1 and in TW (cept they cath a caster by surprise). They are great to farm stuff and are fun to play but they are never even near to OP in the current Meta of this game.
What do you guys think? Are sins OP or are they weak as **** (they are =P)?
While it is true that sins are somewhat strong in the low end segment of this game, they just don't stand a flying chance in mid-range and end-game no matter how well geared they are unless they don't outgear their opponents by a huge rate.
Sins are mostly laughable in NW, in 1on1 and in TW (cept they cath a caster by surprise). They are great to farm stuff and are fun to play but they are never even near to OP in the current Meta of this game.
What do you guys think? Are sins OP or are they weak as **** (they are =P)?
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A sin can be weak as **** if they just get the daggers. A +10 adversity dagger sin with +5 aps gear is laughable. However, an end game sin (IE actually moved to DPH/armor that provides some survivability) is a very legitimate threat.xSonOfCircex-105/103/102 Sage Wiz
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Joe - Momaganon wrote: »Honestly, tell me why sins are OP in this game? They are not, in the end they are one of the weakest classes of all in this game!
While it is true that sins are somewhat strong in the low end segment of this game, they just don't stand a flying chance in mid-range and end-game no matter how well geared they are unless they don't outgear their opponents by a huge rate.
Sins are mostly laughable in NW, in 1on1 and in TW (cept they cath a caster by surprise). They are great to farm stuff and are fun to play but they are never even near to OP in the current Meta of this game.
What do you guys think? Are sins OP or are they weak as **** (they are =P)?
"They are great to farm stuff and are fun to play ... "
"While it is true that sins are somewhat strong in the low end segment of this game, they just don't stand a flying chance in mid-range and end-game no matter how well geared they are unless they don't outgear their opponents by a huge rate."
So, they can farm stuff and outgear their opponents by a huge rate.0 -
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Aps gear in pvp is indeed garbage since it provides next to no survivability and with 99% of sins having barely 6k hp unbuffed it`s really sad, problem with endgame sins is that only a handful of them will have full r9 set, almost all only get the weapon and ring and use the basic aps monkey int set - up, dmg is sick but they die way too fast.[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=14516063001&dateline=1364756666[/SIGPIC] Ty Silvy
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FaceRolI - Sanctuary wrote: »
1on1 him with an equal geared lets say seeker or Barb with self buffs only then this sin will be oneshotted faster then he can say "oh...no plz spare my life" 50k zerk crit...end of the line. Same goes for nearly any other class if they know how to play their class to an extent.
It's not that sins are weak or something. They are just not OP and a bit less powerful end-game-wise compared to other classes like wizards, clerics, barbs and seeker (those are the strongest by far).[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary wrote: »Aps gear in pvp is indeed garbage since it provides next to no survivability and with 99% of sins having barely 6k hp unbuffed it`s really sad, problem with endgame sins is that only a handful of them will have full r9 set, almost all only get the weapon and ring and use the basic aps monkey int set - up, dmg is sick but they die way too fast.
May be they can farm gear for more profitable classes then ?
Wizard is best for PVE ?
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Joe - Momaganon wrote: »Honestly, tell me why sins are OP in this game? They are not, in the end they are one of the weakest classes of all in this game!
While it is true that sins are somewhat strong in the low end segment of this game, they just don't stand a flying chance in mid-range and end-game no matter how well geared they are unless they don't outgear their opponents by a huge rate.
Sins are mostly laughable in NW, in 1on1 and in TW (cept they cath a caster by surprise). They are great to farm stuff and are fun to play but they are never even near to OP in the current Meta of this game.
What do you guys think? Are sins OP or are they weak as **** (they are =P)?
fight bait in 1 vs 1 in lost city and talk...
that sin is not weak at all.......
the sin you seen must suck if you think sin sucks.... sorry sin in ur server suck ***0 -
Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »May be they can farm gear for more profitable classes then ?
Wizard is best for PVE ?
ya I love wizards in PvP. I guess they are on the same level as seeker and Barbs. All 3 of them have the possibility to debuff their enemys like hell, thus making them so strong in PvP. Archers can do that too if they have the right weapon, but in this cas it is really gear dependend. Wizards, barb and seeker just need their own skills plus 1 tiny genie skill to rofl pwn anything that is not buffed.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Unholly - Lothranis wrote: »lets 1v1 after merge Joeeeee, ill do my best to change your mind b:cute
Sure =P no prob^^VKnightV - Lost City wrote: »fight bait in 1 vs 1 in lost city and talk...
that sin is not weak at all.......
the sin you seen must suck if you think sin sucks.... sorry sin in ur server suck ***
Nah I would never rate this if I would have just looked at the pathetic sins from my server xDDDD OMG those are laughable in any way.
A full r9r3 +12ed josd sin is still not even close to a match to a equal geared barb, wizard, seeker or cleric. He can maybe kill psys, venos, archer tho I doubt beating an Archer if the Archer knows how to play) and mystics.
You guys get so easily blended with just pure gear advantage. Let's talk on equal terms. That a sin that outgears myself could beat me is no miracle. If we are on the same gear level I just laugh at them. No matter if they are aps or full r9r3 geared.
As a barb I can tank their sparked dmg just by pressing solid shield and get some coffee meanwhile....xDDD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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It's a stupid thing to ask on these forums, because people will never give any legit reason why they claim sins are OP.
Simply because sins aren't OP. People just like to complain about sins in general because boohoo we have to complain about something.
Every other class will be claimed to be OP by someone, simply because person x is being killed over and over by person y playing class z.
That being said, people also seem to narrow aps down to the sin class only as well, it's laughable b:laugh
You'd be amazed how many idiot BM's run around apsing with fists in nation wars, but no, lets narrow it down to sins only b:laugh0 -
Link to the fight mentioned earlyer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGw-PmqCDvw&list=UURMlOuDY79PjheRoJWTsClA&index=1
mmm if we are talking super end game both +12 josd chars, from my experience if both players are decent any class vs any class is likely to take a considerable amount of time if it ever finishes. most classes have rather predictable kill combos that can be avoided negated.
sure at full +12 josd a sin is going to find it hard to dish out the 35-45k something hp that a barb has but if a barb is relying on a 50K OMGend zerk crit as their only way to kill a sin in return then deaden nerves is going to hinder that plan a lot they can just kite away phys immune with their genie whilst waiting for deaden nerves to come of CD.
(please note most barbs on my server are mainly vit cata pullers whose only damage is armageddon, but then again i can't really see a barb dealing 30k damage to a josd sin without armageddon) idk just my thoughts
as for Wizards i find that the full +11 josd wiz on my server is pretty well matched with my +10/11 non josd sinHow do i amuse myself?
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Unholly - Lothranis wrote: »Link to the fight mentioned earlyer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGw-PmqCDvw&list=UURMlOuDY79PjheRoJWTsClA&index=1
mmm if we are talking super end game both +12 josd chars, from my experience if both players are decent any class vs any class is likely to take a considerable amount of time if it ever finishes. most classes have rather predictable kill combos that can be avoided negated.
sure at full +12 josd a sin is going to find it hard to dish out the 35-45k something hp that a barb has but if a barb is relying on a 50K OMGend zerk crit as their only way to kill a sin in return then deaden nerves is going to hinder that plan a lot they can just kite away phys immune with their genie whilst waiting for deaden nerves to come of CD.
(please note most barbs on my server are mainly vit cata pullers whose only damage is armageddon, but then again i can't really see a barb dealing 30k damage to a josd sin without armageddon) idk just my thoughts
as for Wizards i find that the full +11 josd wiz on my server is pretty well matched with my +10/11 non josd sin
What happened to your full +12 refines with +10-11 ornies? Silly. Also, I wanna 1v1 someone too! If this damn server lag I'm having ever stops. I wanna farm TT and make money b:cry
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Unholly - Lothranis wrote: »Link to the fight mentioned earlyer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGw-PmqCDvw&list=UURMlOuDY79PjheRoJWTsClA&index=1
mmm if we are talking super end game both +12 josd chars, from my experience if both players are decent any class vs any class is likely to take a considerable amount of time if it ever finishes. most classes have rather predictable kill combos that can be avoided negated.
sure at full +12 josd a sin is going to find it hard to dish out the 35-45k something hp that a barb has but if a barb is relying on a 50K OMGend zerk crit as their only way to kill a sin in return then deaden nerves is going to hinder that plan a lot they can just kite away phys immune with their genie whilst waiting for deaden nerves to come of CD.
(please note most barbs on my server are mainly vit cata pullers whose only damage is armageddon, but then again i can't really see a barb dealing 30k damage to a josd sin without armageddon) idk just my thoughts
as for Wizards i find that the full +11 josd wiz on my server is pretty well matched with my +10/11 non josd sin
for the wiz vid ask androit to put her vid with bait as she says its liek a 50/50 chance
and these vids show sin are NOT weak at all...
i do not see OMG one hit skill as joe said.
r9rr +12 josd sin wont die easely and they do show they have a lil advantage with there many debuff stun zeal etc.0 -
Unholly - Lothranis wrote: »Link to the fight mentioned earlyer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGw-PmqCDvw&list=UURMlOuDY79PjheRoJWTsClA&index=1
mmm if we are talking super end game both +12 josd chars, from my experience if both players are decent any class vs any class is likely to take a considerable amount of time if it ever finishes. most classes have rather predictable kill combos that can be avoided negated.
sure at full +12 josd a sin is going to find it hard to dish out the 35-45k something hp that a barb has but if a barb is relying on a 50K OMGend zerk crit as their only way to kill a sin in return then deaden nerves is going to hinder that plan a lot they can just kite away phys immune with their genie whilst waiting for deaden nerves to come of CD.
(please note most barbs on my server are mainly vit cata pullers whose only damage is armageddon, but then again i can't really see a barb dealing 30k damage to a josd sin without armageddon) idk just my thoughts
as for Wizards i find that the full +11 josd wiz on my server is pretty well matched with my +10/11 non josd sin
Thats by far not all a Barb can do against a sin. A Barb can debuff, purge, ofc Arma, has solid shield, invoke, cornered beast, bestial Onslaught (tho I only consider demon Barbs real threats, the skills are way stronger, who cares about a lil more HP and phys def), Blood Bath and more of that.
Tho I am aps skilled to farm stuff and such I do have a advantage or 2 from that even without using fists. Higher Crit, more evasion, way higher Accuracy especially when using blood bath and ofc demon sparked 2.22 with the r9 axe for "axe"mple xD trust me, you don't need arma if you know what you're doing. Being able to push up chi with decent fists isn't that bad either.
I don't rely too much on my HP unlike other Barbs and I still got so many things to do on my gears. But I never feared any class and was even able to defeat way better geared players in 1on1 sitations which occured rarely.
The reason why I'm stating this is that especially aps barbs were called fail. Just like sins were called OP. That really depends on the player playing them. I just wanted to tell you guys that sins are not commonly OP, tho they even have a slight disadvantage for not being able to debuff at all (unless ppl work out strategies with "Pierce"-proc daggers and combining it with tangling mire).
So you see. Nearly any class can be deadly in the right hands. It's not a secret that our community lacks skill more then anything else. They just rely on gear and call themselfes OP.
Versatility of things comes through man. Same goes for our beloved PWI classes. Honestly they are all so much fun to play. Ones shall call themselfes OP when they beat good players even if they are at a clear disadvantage![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
wish is why we say its op in the hand of a great player......
if you look at the vid no stealth was even used....
why would they need one if they dont even need one
also note it must of been a lot of hp on that barb+charm+barb deaden nerv and he still was beaten down with extreme poisen.0 -
well compare them to other classes they need it and all they have really is zerk crits with wolf emblem without that you might as well punch guards i could go on about comparing them but it could be a long post lol0
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Ok guys then show me a single video that shows good players...1 sin and 1 random other class (preferable Barb, seeker, wiz or cleric) at max gear level AND WITH THEIR OWN BUFFS ONLY!!!!!
Self buffed only are real 1on1s...everything fully buffed is childs play and irrelevant at any matter.
Why? Because there is really no end to a fight if both players play perfectly with charm, def charms, pots, pills, genie and maybe switch to r8r weapons with def levels in critical situations.
So please post vids with self buffs only cuz everything else is not compareable.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Joe - Momaganon wrote: »Honestly, tell me why sins are OP in this game?
- Sage Tidal Protection
- Inner Harmony + Rising Dragon Strike + Tackling Slash
- Deaden Nerves
- Sleep + Stuns + Seal + Paralyze + Slow + Rib Strike
- Chill of Deep + Wolf Emblem + Zerk Crits
- 35m tele stun range
I'm not mentioning APS or stealth since crappy players who relied only on that are now realizing stupid they are.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Joe - Momaganon wrote: »Thats by far not all a Barb can do against a sin. A Barb can debuff, purge, ofc Arma, has solid shield, invoke, cornered beast, bestial Onslaught (tho I only consider demon Barbs real threats, the skills are way stronger, who cares about a lil more HP and phys def), Blood Bath and more of that.
Tho I am aps skilled to farm stuff and such I do have a advantage or 2 from that even without using fists. Higher Crit, more evasion, way higher Accuracy especially when using blood bath and ofc demon sparked 2.22 with the r9 axe for "axe"mple xD trust me, you don't need arma if you know what you're doing. Being able to push up chi with decent fists isn't that bad either.
I don't rely too much on my HP unlike other Barbs and I still got so many things to do on my gears. But I never feared any class and was even able to defeat way better geared players in 1on1 sitations which occured rarely.
The reason why I'm stating this is that especially aps barbs were called fail. Just like sins were called OP. That really depends on the player playing them. I just wanted to tell you guys that sins are not commonly OP, tho they even have a slight disadvantage for not being able to debuff at all (unless ppl work out strategies with "Pierce"-proc daggers and combining it with tangling mire).
So you see. Nearly any class can be deadly in the right hands. It's not a secret that our community lacks skill more then anything else. They just rely on gear and call themselfes OP.
Versatility of things comes through man. Same goes for our beloved PWI classes. Honestly they are all so much fun to play. Ones shall call themselfes OP when they beat good players even if they are at a clear disadvantage!
you just stated sin are weak in fact you put sin as the lowest of the classes and with this vid as proof you still wana show off.
you say ur aps demon barb to ok then ur ****.
can you tell me what you woudl do different cos once sin stun locks you you still be doing nothing.
its not just that barb who hade issue with being put in some kinda stun lock
androit was to and he is a r9rr wiz and she says its even fight....
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Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »- Sage Tidal Protection
- Inner Harmony + Rising Dragon Strike + Tackling Slash
- Deaden Nerves
- Sleep + Stuns + Seal + Paralyze + Slow + Rib Strike
- Chill of Deep + Wolf Emblem + Zerk Crits
- 35m tele stun range
I'm not mentioning APS or stealth since crappy players who relied only on that are now realizing stupid they are.
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Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »- Sage Tidal Protection
- Inner Harmony + Rising Dragon Strike + Tackling Slash
- Deaden Nerves
- Sleep + Stuns + Seal + Paralyze + Slow + Rib Strike
- Chill of Deep + Wolf Emblem + Zerk Crits
- 35m tele stun range
I'm not mentioning APS or stealth since crappy players who relied only on that are now realizing stupid they are.
- Sage tidal protection obviously is sage only, this doesnt make all sins op at all.
- Chi management, big whoop, although it maybe is too easy to gain chi for us.
- Barbs have an even more hax version of this so this claim is dismissed.
- Every class has its own status effects for others, we have to come up close to actually do it, archers can do it from range.
- BOOHOO PLEASE DONT LET THEM EVER DEAL DAMAGE QQ without (zerk) crits, or wolf, or chill we might as well use feathers for weapons. It makes up for what most classes have, try looking at your own phy attack per shot you deal with your bow Ast, compare it to the phy attack on an equal refined sin. I wonder why we have zerks...
- Archer bow range.
See, I told you anyone could come up with counter reasons.
APS I disagree on, it's not always stupid to use, but you have to know when you can use it and when not.0 -
Joe - Momaganon wrote: »Ok guys then show me a single video that shows good players...1 sin and 1 random other class (preferable Barb, seeker, wiz or cleric) at max gear level AND WITH THEIR OWN BUFFS ONLY!!!!!
Self buffed only are real 1on1s...everything fully buffed is childs play and irrelevant at any matter.
Why? Because there is really no end to a fight if both players play perfectly with charm, def charms, pots, pills, genie and maybe switch to r8r weapons with def levels in critical situations.
So please post vids with self buffs only cuz everything else is not compareable.
well in soem cases it can get one sided tho..... say you with ur dex build use a purge pole or ur 100 skill proc and ur oponet end up losing there buff while u keep urs.
as for myself i always wished for all party buff to be self buff only
barb have its hp buff
veno have its bramble
ep have its ep buff
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_dblazen_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »- Sage tidal protection obviously is sage only, this doesnt make all sins op at all.
but sage is waaay to op and not balanced at all remove it or nerf it to a decent %
- Chi management, big whoop, although it maybe is too easy to gain chi for us.
then lets remove the chi gain cos no other class have free chi like this
- Barbs have an even more hax version of this so this claim is dismissed.
if you are ok with removing deaden nerv then we can remove barb deaden nerv to fair is fair right
- Every class has its own status effects for others, we have to come up close to actually do it, archers can do it from range.
so everyone can spamm our zeal stun sleep like you do NO then why should you be able to
- BOOHOO PLEASE DONT LET THEM EVER DEAL DAMAGE QQ without (zerk) crits, or wolf, or chill we might as well use feathers for weapons. It makes up for what most classes have, try looking at your own phy attack per shot you deal with your bow Ast, compare it to the phy attack on an equal refined sin. I wonder why we have zerks...
if they fixed the daggs stats to req real str stats like claw it wouldent be so retareded
str should do physical damage
- Archer bow range.
See, I told you anyone could come up with counter reasons.
APS I disagree on, it's not always stupid to use, but you have to know when you can use it and when not.
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VKnightV - Lost City wrote: »you just stated sin are weak in fact you put sin as the lowest of the classes and with this vid as proof you still wana show off.
you say ur aps demon barb to ok then ur ****.
can you tell me what you woudl do different cos once sin stun locks you you still be doing nothing.
its not just that barb who hade issue with being put in some kinda stun lock
androit was to and he is a r9rr wiz and she says its even fight....
basecally sin will ALways try to keep you stun locked..... to damn many stuns on that class
lol? thats why a wiz is a wiz, though it should be no prob now with purify spell to get out of the stun lock and as a barb. I just press solid shield and wait til all stuns are done then I antistun and kill the sin. Or rather I just have to us demon roar and let the fail sins kill themselfes on me^^
No stun lock is infinite especially if you count in the lag of our wonderful servers.
A sin will never beat an equal geared Barb, never ever unless the barb ist just plain unable play.
You might think that I'm just a barb and stuff but don't missunderstand me, sin is one of the classes I played most of the time and I did my homeworks. Playing this game for over 4 years now and being bored most of the time makes you somewhat better if you focus on trying things with that you could possibly kill other player.
I discussed and compared all classes to each other for years now on a daily base. I know exactly what each class can do and use to protect themselfes against specific other classes and if you would do the calculations then sins would be at the lower end of the line.
Their most powerful skill like Asterelle said is Tidal Protection especially in Sage. But that skill has a cooldown too. Lame sins just stealth away when this happens tho the skill is really luck dependend. The only reason why on equal terms means same level too. Stealth pot and they are gone.
If that Androit is a good Wiz then he/she could never have lost against that sin on rea equal 1on1 terms. Never ever. I saw wizards doing things ppl could never imagine in PWI.
Like I said try it on Pservers with equality and then come back and say that sins are great again xDDDD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Joe - Momaganon wrote: »lol? thats why a wiz is a wiz, though it should be no prob now with purify spell to get out of the stun lock and as a barb. I just press solid shield and wait til all stuns are done then I antistun and kill the sin. Or rather I just have to us demon roar and let the fail sins kill themselfes on me^^
No stun lock is infinite especially if you count in the lag of our wonderful servers.
A sin will never beat an equal geared Barb, never ever unless the barb ist just plain unable play.
You might think that I'm just a barb and stuff but don't missunderstand me, sin is one of the classes I played most of the time and I did my homeworks. Playing this game for over 4 years now and being bored most of the time makes you somewhat better if you focus on trying things with that you could possibly kill other player.
I discussed and compared all classes to each other for years now on a daily base. I know exactly what each class can do and use to protect themselfes against specific other classes and if you would do the calculations then sins would be at the lower end of the line.
Their most powerful skill like Asterelle said is Tidal Protection especially in Sage. But that skill has a cooldown too. Lame sins just stealth away when this happens tho the skill is really luck dependend. The only reason why on equal terms means same level too. Stealth pot and they are gone.
If that Androit is a good Wiz then he/she could never have lost against that sin on rea equal 1on1 terms. Never ever. I saw wizards doing things ppl could never imagine in PWI.
Like I said try it on Pservers with equality and then come back and say that sins are great again xDDDD
sorry but this is why i think ur bias 1st on the fact ur comparing pwi to a pserver and second on sin being weak.
sin lose a lot of there strenght once they pass the r9rr but they are not weak at all.
i still see them as the better 1vs1 classes.
remove the sin who only know how to spark+aps cos they were never good.
instead know sin who are r9rr with lots of deff lv and attack lv with mag and pdef orment are strong cos they are.
and tricky to
um you should watch the vid again and see sin dont even need stealth....0 -
So, while I think the guy is a complete tool when it comes to the issue of Purify Spell, it does somewhat bug me to see so many people mispelling his name when there's really no excuse to. It's Adroit, not Androit. We are on a public forum with full access to everyone's names, along with full access to built in thingamadoodle that tells you if your words are spelled wrong. Stop mispelling ****. Names, words, I don't care. Just freaking stop already you monkeys.0
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VKnightV - Lost City wrote: »sorry but this is why i think ur bias 1st on the fact ur comparing pwi to a pserver and second on sin being weak.
sin lose a lot of there strenght once they pass the r9rr but they are not weak at all.
i still see them as the better 1vs1 classes.
remove the sin who only know how to spark+aps cos they were never good.
instead know sin who are r9rr with lots of deff lv and attack lv with mag and pdef orment are strong cos they are.
and tricky to
um you should watch the vid again and see sin dont even need stealth....
I like sins that don't stealth, cuz stealth is lame. I never said that sins are sooo weak, I just said that they are not the top end of all classes 1on1 wise when it comes to chances and playability. Barbs, Seeker, Wizards and Clerics e.g. got way more advantages then a sin, thats all I'm saying thus amking sind everything else then OP.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Got at least one alt of any class above level 100.
All decently geared and skilled (: .
And the most important thing is: They are all fun to play ^.^ .
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