need guide for choosing and upgrading dagger

pureeee
pureeee Posts: 8 Arc User
edited April 2013 in Assassin
hi
i already have these Gear :
http://www.pwcalc.com/98d228be03db0469

and i just want to use sin for PvE and farming TT and my main is other class,

i want to upgrade my dagger but don't know is it worth to upgrade G16 more than 10?
its not better if i get R9r3 ? which one is better for killing bosses ?

1 less aps and zerk and having more atk lvl and dmg is better ?

if anyone have experience i will appreciate to tell us.

i can make this with less money :
http://www.pwcalc.com/356221d4d5c0be3c

or make this with crazy money :
http://www.pwcalc.com/62a7a564b1b04a7b
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Not much point getting R9rr for PvE.
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  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    if you already have +10 G16 then you're good

    +10 your armor 4soc and get good shards
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    N3 out DDs r9r but doesn't quite reach r9t3 in terms of dps. Still, it's pretty close. I can't remember the exact number but it was something like 240k dps vs 232k dps so just a couple percent difference.

    And ofc R9t3 uses GoF hits to get those numbers which means zerks which means losing life and slightly less survivability. Not a huge issue since with r9t3 you almost always at least make up the zerk hp cost back in paint heals, but something to consider.

    The one place R9t3 shines in PvE is zerk aoes for places like delta.

    Other than that the real reason to go R9t3 is because you want r9t3 pieces of gear for defense in pvp and you want GoF. For PvE purpose G16 and r9t3 are almost exactly as good as each other.
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  • Unholly - Lothranis
    Unholly - Lothranis Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    If you are talking farming tt3.3 I would say stay with nirvana T3 +10's and spend the money you are thinking of spending on +12 weapon on better armor refines. A lil more hp would be more beneficial to you imo
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  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    would try to get Lunar G15 pieces instead for more defense, since this will be your endgame farming gear

    http://www.pwcalc.com/10e8f6b073e4b44d

    try to get a 4soc R8 top; just buy a new one every day till you get 4soc I guess?
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  • Deadalus - Harshlands
    Deadalus - Harshlands Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    N3 out DDs r9r but doesn't quite reach r9t3 in terms of dps. Still, it's pretty close. I can't remember the exact number but it was something like 240k dps vs 232k dps so just a couple percent difference.

    And ofc R9t3 uses GoF hits to get those numbers which means zerks which means losing life and slightly less survivability. Not a huge issue since with r9t3 you almost always at least make up the zerk hp cost back in paint heals, but something to consider.

    The one place R9t3 shines in PvE is zerk aoes for places like delta.

    Other than that the real reason to go R9t3 is because you want r9t3 pieces of gear for defense in pvp and you want GoF. For PvE purpose G16 and r9t3 are almost exactly as good as each other.


    I Doubt, that its just a few %, where r9t3 is better then g16.
    The only good part on g16 is, that you reach 5aps and dont lose HP with Zerk.

    R9t3 on the other hand, has serval damage adds on it.
    20~25 more Attack level
    3~6 more Critrate
    fixed DEX Stats from 10~20


    When someone speaks, again , on some dream roll on g16, yes its possible, that they are a bit closer together, but the average dagger doesnt look like this, more like have some HP adds, Magical, MP or sth like that, but not Max Phy Attack 2 times .

    Not counting GoF, they have the same DPS actually just looking at 5APS vs 4APS.


    But for PvE only, yea g16 does the job just fine, but as said, R9t3 does it faster b:chuckle
  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Keep your gear as is, beside refines. A cheap way that can help with increasing damage is make a str genie. With genie gear I just recently got my genie to cast a 50% phy def debuff with mire. Stack on ep on that and you get a really nice dmg increase on first spark with a small amount of coin(5.7m coins @ 5k a emblem for +6 gear). You can also throw some Dot's for a bit of an increase. I would wait till you get better refines on your gear before you do that. But this is just a farming sin so it is not really an issue or a need for that type of expense.

    In the end with your build, it is fine. Just refine more and you can solo practically anything in the game
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