How do you make your money?

Mitachi - Dreamweaver
Mitachi - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,201 Arc User
edited April 2013 in General Discussion
I know this question has been asked to death, im just trying to look into possibilities of how i can make 470mil in 1 month. I have a shop, so i do merch, but it wont be quick enough.

I use to farm the **** out of nirvy, but dead instance is dead. Farming TT only makes like 2mil a day if you lucky, so i need more effective ways.

So back to the question:

ty all b:victory
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  • Tide_Surfer - Archosaur
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I somehow tend to come across coins, like seriously, I just come across coins, I'm full G16 (Nirvana stage 3) and I didn't cs one cent of it, just everytime I seemed to come across money.
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  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Selling DQ to NPC lol.
  • Flamespirit - Dreamweaver
    Flamespirit - Dreamweaver Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Idk, This is something that I have been struggling with myself. I use to have a very good income playing my sin and cleric while my wife played her bm and barb. We farmed tt and nirvana. It resulted in me going full r9 for my wizzy which was my tw/pvp character. The bad part is that we mistakenly went r8r and fully sharded refined my wife an alternate set of gear. With r93 it is now not really effective in pvp and turns out it was a huge waste of coin for the refines and gems and such. For the first few months of Nw we sold all of our tokens and managed to get enough to move my wizzy to r93 all +10. Obviously nw nolonger pays well in comparison to the staggering sums of coins for an effective endgame character.

    I was never good at merch and it was not an enjoyable thing for me. I considered spending 3k real money to make my wife a decent mate for my wizzy, but it just seems like an unrealistic amount of money to spend when there is so many better things in real life to spend it on. At the current rate of farming tt outside of 2x and farming herbs and selling fc it seems like it will require so much time that it becomes not really worth it. I'd rather pay the money, except it is not reasonable in my mind to do so. I find myself loggin on to play less and less.
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Farm card bosses, make OHT gear and decomp it, and sell the perfect stones resulting.
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  • Heartz - Dreamweaver
    Heartz - Dreamweaver Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Solo Relic boss path or Drake boss path in lunar squadmode for 7,5-12m pr hour in x2.
    105 - 105 - 105 (14th march 2014)

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  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'd start by setting a more realistic goal. 470mil in one month? I'm not even sure most aps farmers make that kind of coin.

    I'm a big fan of running Cube, although PoF prices have dipped slightly on my server in recent weeks. I'll also dualbox the occasional cardboss (barb + mystic) for Power Materials and sell the Pstones which come from them (you could sell the mats, but it takes a lot longer). Between that, BH runs, event runs like Jungle Ruins on multiple characters, and some light merchanting, I get a cash flow of 50-75mil/month, and that's playing casually. If I ran all my 90+ chars through cube every day I could probably bump that up to 100-125m easily. And if I can't get something on that kind of coin, I don't have any interest in getting it.
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Deposit my money with the banker and live off the interest he gives me.
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  • Tide_Surfer - Archosaur
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Deposit my money with the banker and live off the interest he gives me.

    Are you boogiepanda? o.o
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  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Not playing right now, but my intentions when i get back are:

    Merchanting: 6m per day

    4 cubes per day for COGs and sell the gamble boxes you get in some rooms: 4m+ net profit per day.

    Add some from TT. Dont know how prices are, ive been gone for 5 months. Back than ribbons and GBA were about 1m each. Adding other **** and chance for golds, a 3-1 run would be worth already 2m without 2x. If prices didnt more than halve, it shouldnt be too terrible seems to me.

    Those card bosses i have to look into, but from what i read this far it seems like a waste of time to me and much more productive to just make the items that need only the stuff that drops from TT as it requires no buying stuff for expensive cards, poor chances of getting to last boss etc. If someone could give me a more comprehensive explanation of this whole thing including the average amount of drops everywhere and costs etc and explain me why it is actually interesting to do, i would be very gratefull :)

    BHs i will also do now and then i guess. And hopefully when i get back to the game, i will find some other things lucrative that i have never done before. Gonna try how NW will be without charm or R9. Gonna check out things posted in this tread like jungle ruin that i never heard of and see what i can do in lunar duo with my BM friend :)

    before all that however ill have to do some 100 FC runs with my new Demon barb :p (and a ****load of morai daylies to get the skills)
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Are you boogiepanda? o.o
    Yes, facerolled is boogie...

    And to answer the OP, the way most people make money... b:lipcurl
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  • Sassy/ss_ - Sanctuary50
    Sassy/ss_ - Sanctuary50 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Beg in white chat like this

    \"PLIS GIBBEH MONIEZ ONLY NID 100k PLIS"
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Beg in white chat like this

    \"PLIS GIBBEH MONIEZ ONLY NID 100k PLIS"

    lol... i actually had someone JUST yesterday beggin me in pm to give them 17k in lost city b:chuckle like really? 17k? and it was a 50-ish barb with dreamchaser gear to boot b:shocked just effin b:surrender
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited April 2013
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'd start by setting a more realistic goal. 470mil in one month? I'm not even sure most aps farmers make that kind of coin.

    I farmed 1bil in a month during 2x right before NW came out. After that, around 800m worth of GSTs in December. It's entirely possible with a 2x or even off 2x if you're more nuts than me.

    Anyway, my general money making thing off 2x is:

    -Do every single event that I can make money off of.
    -Look for stuff to merch.
    -Occasionally craft g16 Nirv weapons for people (these go for between 25-35m on HL generally depending on the wep).
    -BHes on multiple chars (amount depends on how not-lazy I feel).
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  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013

    -Occasionally craft g16 Nirv weapons for people (these go for between 25-35m on HL generally depending on the wep).
    They provide the TT equipment and you the rest or whats the deal ?
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    They provide the TT equipment and you the rest or whats the deal ?

    Typically they provide the g15 Nirvana wep, the money, and sometimes the essence.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I sell my nudes to women.
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  • Sassy/ss_ - Sanctuary50
    Sassy/ss_ - Sanctuary50 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lol... i actually had someone JUST yesterday beggin me in pm to give them 17k in lost city b:chuckle like really? 17k? and it was a 50-ish barb with dreamchaser gear to boot b:shocked just effin b:surrender

    This happens every other day outside west to me b:cry
  • BungaSakura - Raging Tide
    BungaSakura - Raging Tide Posts: 902 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    1. doing BH on 3 my level 100+ char.
    2. Grinding map 2 and map 3 to get card. then doing card boss in double drops. (i grind map 3 also not in double drops for DQ, apoth and leveling my pet/ i got level 101-102 by doing that).
    3. Making PS and merchanting it.
    4. Farming herb when i need IG

    Not giving good money like others. But i got my ring and my recast rank 9 wep +9 in 3 months this way.
  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Typically they provide the g15 Nirvana wep, the money, and sometimes the essence.

    You're not telling me they pay you 25-35m AND virtually all the needed mats ?
  • Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver Posts: 756 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I know this question has been asked to death, im just trying to look into possibilities of how i can make 470mil in 1 month. I have a shop, so i do merch, but it wont be quick enough.

    I use to farm the **** out of nirvy, but dead instance is dead. Farming TT only makes like 2mil a day if you lucky, so i need more effective ways.

    So back to the question:

    ty all b:victory

    NW and cashing $$ for 470M a month...........that's no way possible for most. Unless your a no-life +12 assassin solo'ing TT 3-1 to 3-3 and getting a LOT of gold mats all day long.
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    You're not telling me they pay you 25-35m AND virtually all the needed mats ?

    People are morons. What can ya say?
    Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    You're not telling me they pay you 25-35m AND virtually all the needed mats ?

    I am. People really will pay that much for the molds.
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  • Fissile - Archosaur
    Fissile - Archosaur Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    For the molds and also so they don't have to do all the warsong runs themselves.
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  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    For the molds and also so they don't have to do all the warsong runs themselves.

    Its not really like molds are rare though :p I would imagine they ought to be virtually worthless actually. (and i immagine they will be after a while when people keep running warsongs for the stuff they need to reroll until they got double or triple int and meanwhile get so many of the damn molds till they cant manage to sell them anymore and just leave em on the floor in the instance.)
  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Idk, This is something that I have been struggling with myself. I use to have a very good income playing my sin and cleric while my wife played her bm and barb. We farmed tt and nirvana. It resulted in me going full r9 for my wizzy which was my tw/pvp character. The bad part is that we mistakenly went r8r and fully sharded refined my wife an alternate set of gear. With r93 it is now not really effective in pvp and turns out it was a huge waste of coin for the refines and gems and such. For the first few months of Nw we sold all of our tokens and managed to get enough to move my wizzy to r93 all +10. Obviously nw nolonger pays well in comparison to the staggering sums of coins for an effective endgame character.

    I was never good at merch and it was not an enjoyable thing for me. I considered spending 3k real money to make my wife a decent mate for my wizzy, but it just seems like an unrealistic amount of money to spend when there is so many better things in real life to spend it on. At the current rate of farming tt outside of 2x and farming herbs and selling fc it seems like it will require so much time that it becomes not really worth it. I'd rather pay the money, except it is not reasonable in my mind to do so. I find myself loggin on to play less and less.

    So you got your r9.3 and your wife got left behind. I agree it is rediculous to CS 3000$ for a set for her. Maybe you should make her happy spending 1000$ on real life clothing to make up for it though ;)
  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Its not really like molds are rare though :p I would imagine they ought to be virtually worthless actually. (and i immagine they will be after a while when people keep running warsongs for the stuff they need to reroll until they got double or triple int and meanwhile get so many of the damn molds till they cant manage to sell them anymore and just leave em on the floor in the instance.)

    It's the same on Sanctuary server. Basically an overpriced service, but a blessing for lazy and cash shopping players. With some patience people can buy mold pick up service for around 6 mil (which most people are doing currently), and about 500k per EoO. The badges don't take long to farm - just 10 days if you do a full warsong each night. Yea, what you say is true and already happening. Currently on my server, I am starting to see more farmers selling the mold pick ups in wc because their over priced crafting service isn't doing too well.
  • Fissile - Archosaur
    Fissile - Archosaur Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I crafted a lot of stuff for people for free. I had to do so many warsong runs to get all my molds it left me with hundreds of extra badges and around 40 essence of offense.

    I used to love warsong runs. The warsong medals, emblems, inscriptions, and essences all used to sell for good prices. Now the prices have all gone down by 50-75%. Most TT mats other than golds sell for almost nothing as well. f:shame
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Are you boogiepanda? o.o

    No I'm Facerolled, a R8 recast wizard that's squatting on boogiepanda's account
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  • Liam_ - Sanctuary
    Liam_ - Sanctuary Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I make my money in the following ways. Usually I end up with a few hundred million at the end of each month.

    -NW... occasionally. This has lost its mass profit and is as boring as hell. However you can go in with no charm/apoth and a handful of contact pots and get 8k credits easy enough.
    -BH. Not as great for cash as would seem. Maybe 20m a month per character tops. Sockets aren't worth much lately, chips and orb are worthless. Long bh's like lunar often aren't worth doing with random squads.
    -Herbs. Not as bad as it might sound if you can get a quiet spot in heaven/hell. Spend 30 mins to an hour every day or two when you have nothing else to do and you'll find yourself putting 1m or so into your safe each time.
    -Delta. Worth it with a good squad. At least 2-3m cash, more if you score a good shard.
    -Fairy Boxes. I have 6 months supply.
    -I invest $10 a month on gold, no more, similar to a subscription mmo.

    During 2x I live in TT. I farm 2-3 when faction are available and solo 1-3 squad mode when no one is on. Reason I like those 2 is because they're extremely fast and easy with plenty of money mats. Can easily make 50m over a weekend without investing heavy time. 2x makes up a bulk of my cash.

    I also hoard little things. Tears from OHT dailies, purple divine contracts, collecting chests in fcc, picking up every drop, scanning auction for cheap deals...and so on. Little bits of extra cash add up quickly.

    I could probably make a lot more money if I played hardcore. However I refuse to play more than 2-3 characters at all. I also refuse to nab molds in warsong for manu service when people need, or rip squads off with "free" lunar runs so I can profit big time on EoD. I don't farm instances if I'm tired. I skip NW when I feel it isn't fun and I will often skip 2x's over entirely if I feel drained from the last one. And I like handing out free items to faction members. In the end making friends and enjoying the game is most important to me. So really, your ability to make money can also depend a lot on how far you're willing to go to get it.