Daydream Thread

Walpurga - Dreamweaver
Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
edited April 2013 in General Discussion
Things you wish could come true

like this http://pwcalc.com/a8e081bbbe176c1c b:dirty
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  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Images of what i wish are not appropriate for the forum im afraid.
  • hypereccentrik
    hypereccentrik Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Here's something I'd wanna try
    http://www.pwcalc.com/327bf277ee4147ca
  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Things you wish could come true

    like this http://pwcalc.com/a8e081bbbe176c1c b:dirty

    Why not at least go full +12 for your daydreams? :O
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  • VBloodFangv - Dreamweaver
    VBloodFangv - Dreamweaver Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Here's something I'd wanna try
    http://www.pwcalc.com/327bf277ee4147ca

    Definitely worth 2k HP loss to have 5aps base:

    http://www.pwcalc.com/8776791724e7e7fc
  • VBloodFangv - Dreamweaver
    VBloodFangv - Dreamweaver Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    My pipe dreams are:

    http://pwcalc.com/16e10fe9c0be0633

    or

    http://pwcalc.com/6d4ba399a47645ca

    I put +20 vit stones in the cape of the second build to make up for pwcalc's lack of +12 vit Creation Stones which are available from a maxed out guild base for a nominal 175m each. I'm really not sure which one to choose, but I'm probably gonna go with the +48 def levels over 11k HP.
  • Tide_Surfer - Archosaur
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    My pipe dreams are:

    http://pwcalc.com/16e10fe9c0be0633

    or

    http://pwcalc.com/6d4ba399a47645ca

    I put +20 vit stones in the cape of the second build to make up for pwcalc's lack of +12 vit Creation Stones which are available from a maxed out guild base for a nominal 175m each. I'm really not sure which one to choose, but I'm probably gonna go with the +48 def levels over 11k HP.
    Why would one spend about over 5x the price of a +10 vit stone for a mere 2 more?
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  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    My pipe dreams are:

    http://pwcalc.com/16e10fe9c0be0633

    or

    http://pwcalc.com/6d4ba399a47645ca

    I put +20 vit stones in the cape of the second build to make up for pwcalc's lack of +12 vit Creation Stones which are available from a maxed out guild base for a nominal 175m each. I'm really not sure which one to choose, but I'm probably gonna go with the +48 def levels over 11k HP.

    made a slight modification.

    But still 63k HP for a nice armageddon :) (you can of course still swich back to that axe when you want to use such skills)
  • VBloodFangv - Dreamweaver
    VBloodFangv - Dreamweaver Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Why would one spend about over 5x the price of a +10 vit stone for a mere 2 more?

    It's always worth it to have the best of the best - that 1k HP for 3.2 bil more might save your life. b:chuckle I do believe we're talking about daydreams in this thread, am I correct? b:shutup
  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Why would one spend about over 5x the price of a +10 vit stone for a mere 2 more?

    cuz its a daydream tread.
  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'm really not sure which one to choose, but I'm probably gonna go with the +48 def levels over 11k HP.

    You could use Asterelle's sharding calculator or Paramedic's Effective HP Calculator, or any other similar tools to help you decide.
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  • VBloodFangv - Dreamweaver
    VBloodFangv - Dreamweaver Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    made a slight modification.

    But still 63k HP for a nice armageddon :)

    Big problem, bro, an error with PWcalc, and I realized it's also an error with my build as well. You can't equip the R9rr with that build, with less than 164 str, which has to come off dex, bringing the max HP down to under 60k with axes. (PWcalc doesn't block this because of the +100 str bonus from R9rr, but you actually wouldn't be able to get away with that in-game). You also gave it demon spark but sage true form. For a demon build, you'd have demon true form, further reducing the max available HP to 56k, and demon intensity, reducing the max available pdef to 48k.

    I'd much prefer to stick with an axe build, for many reasons. Given the short duration of barb control skills, APS is fairly useless vs anything but an assassin, as the control skills must be used extremely frequently, and without them you can forget about actually attacking your opponent. This is different than sins and BMs which have long-lasting control skills, and can use their control skills with their APS weapon.

    There are some perks, like a 2k available accuracy boost (at a greater HP cost than sage) and a 10% crit boost, but to me, it's not worth the 10k HP drop, 5k pdef drop, and demon build.
  • Liveena - Heavens Tear
    Liveena - Heavens Tear Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Daydream?

    I want a poleaxe with GOF and +50 attk lvl b:surrender
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  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited April 2013
    World Peace!f:cute

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  • Esnemyl - Dreamweaver
    Esnemyl - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,079 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    http://pwcalc.com/47e57eadf6d427d8

    ;-; so much moneys to be hipster with that armor
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    9,999 post count. That is my dream. I'M GONNA BE HOKAGE BELIEVE IT. Man. I'm ****in' bored.
  • BenSmith - Dreamweaver
    BenSmith - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Okay so this is my archer build:
    http://pwcalc.com/79bc7ffd11635a9a

    I've been thinking about it for a while and in my opinion it seems like the best build for an archer, as our main targets are casters right? So why not have the mosst magic defense possible. Now you might think, what about pdef? Well I have so much hp that i can survive even the strongest of hits. And since i have the rank 9 bow and plenty of mp to use my skills, they will all die before they hit me so i'm fine. And also, the tome gives me an extra 0.2 ms boost to my running speed, so I can outrun any other opponent. Tell me what you guys think!
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  • VBloodFangv - Dreamweaver
    VBloodFangv - Dreamweaver Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Ben, you nub b:laugh

    But yeah umm, here's my archer daydream build.
    http://pwcalc.com/043f9195b56540f1
  • BenSmith - Dreamweaver
    BenSmith - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Ben, you nub b:laugh

    But yeah umm, here's my archer daydream build.
    http://pwcalc.com/043f9195b56540f1

    Dude it only has 14k mdef... mine has 26k... how are you gonna beat casters?
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  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Big problem, bro, an error with PWcalc, and I realized it's also an error with my build as well. You can't equip the R9rr with that build, with less than 164 str, which has to come off dex, bringing the max HP down to under 60k with axes. (PWcalc doesn't block this because of the +100 str bonus from R9rr, but you actually wouldn't be able to get away with that in-game). You also gave it demon spark but sage true form. For a demon build, you'd have demon true form, further reducing the max available HP to 56k, and demon intensity, reducing the max available pdef to 48k.

    I'd much prefer to stick with an axe build, for many reasons. Given the short duration of barb control skills, APS is fairly useless vs anything but an assassin, as the control skills must be used extremely frequently, and without them you can forget about actually attacking your opponent. This is different than sins and BMs which have long-lasting control skills, and can use their control skills with their APS weapon.

    There are some perks, like a 2k available accuracy boost (at a greater HP cost than sage) and a 10% crit boost, but to me, it's not worth the 10k HP drop, 5k pdef drop, and demon build.

    Its for PvE :)

    Other than that, i have no PvP experience but i think accuracy and thus dex might be strongly underestimated generally. You dont wanna bring your opponent down to 55% HP, use your ToP for the extra HPs, demon onslaught for that nice crit, cast armageddon and then.... miss...... But as i say, i have no PvP experience, just seems to me like dex cant be such a bad thing really. Of course it reduces your magnificent HP number a bit but thats not the only thing in life i'd imagine.
  • BenSmith - Dreamweaver
    BenSmith - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Its for PvE :)

    Other than that, i have no PvP experience but i think accuracy and thus dex might be strongly underestimated generally. You dont wanna bring your opponent down to 55% HP, use your ToP for the extra HPs, demon onslaught for that nice crit, cast armageddon and then.... miss...... But as i say, i have no PvP experience, just seems to me like dex cant be such a bad thing really. Of course it reduces your magnificent HP number a bit but thats not the only thing in life i'd imagine.

    This guy kicks my *** in pvp with a vit barb, he barely misses and has low dex. IJS. Also, one shouldn't rely on armageddon in pvp.
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  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    My dreams are as constant as the northern star. Never a hour is it not on my mind. I hope for the day that the bliss my mind so desires is a reality.
  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I daydreamed once that my Claw-Barb hit a boss' pressure points in a fit of rage while crying manly tears to avenge one of his fallen comrades.
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  • Tide_Surfer - Archosaur
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Okay so this is my archer build:
    http://pwcalc.com/79bc7ffd11635a9a

    I've been thinking about it for a while and in my opinion it seems like the best build for an archer, as our main targets are casters right? So why not have the mosst magic defense possible. Now you might think, what about pdef? Well I have so much hp that i can survive even the strongest of hits. And since i have the rank 9 bow and plenty of mp to use my skills, they will all die before they hit me so i'm fine. And also, the tome gives me an extra 0.2 ms boost to my running speed, so I can outrun any other opponent. Tell me what you guys think!
    EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
    Dude it only has 14k mdef... mine has 26k... how are you gonna beat casters?
    Jades > Mdef shards.
    Defence lvls > more defence.
    You're gonna be a 1 shot for a sin crit with your first build. That's less pdef than me and that's baaaaaddddd. I mean you're not gonna be a 1 shot for casters if you're full jades, hell to the nawww. RRR9 +12 full josd archer on my server kills the RRR9 +12 full josd psychic on my server. Mdef ain't everything lol.
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  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    >not full def shard archer with def level r8r bow

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