No More Hyper In Frost

It scares me on how dependent people have become on FC being their main source of experience. Even if it was something that was not intended, treat it as if it was, and adapt. It's not that hard.

I've hit 104 not too long ago, and I'm currently at 343m exp to 105 without a single FC instance touched. Gaining exp really isn't hard nowadays.

Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It will certainly be interesting to see how the community deals with this change. Though I will echo the sentiment that capping FF entry at 75 or 80 would solve the problem easily without inconveniencing the level-appropriate squads.

And of course, let's not forget what Sylen said on... what, page 3?... that this was likely just an "oopsie" on the part of the devs, ala Secret Passage PK. If you guys want it to stay, then you'd better show your support strongly and loudly, or the whiners will drown you out and give it more chance to come back.

Personally, I'll need some time to decide what to think about this one. I can't stand powerleveling (I just call it Frost Abuse), but I do have several characters who used hypers in FF at legitimate levels, so the removal of the practice certainly impacts me as well. At this point... I just wish they'd capped it instead of removing hypers. :P

True. Capping the FF entrance at the appropriate level to open the quest itself and "port" back at the last boss would work better indeed.

Post with most sence ive read in a while.

Skaitavia wrote: »

It scares me on how dependent people have become on FC being their main source of experience. Even if it was something that was not intended, treat it as if it was, and adapt. It's not that hard.

I've hit 104 not too long ago, and I'm currently at 343m exp to 105 without a single FC instance touched. Gaining exp really isn't hard nowadays.

Exactly. This thread is a microcosm of today's society: We want things made easy for us and we want our gratification NOW!

Face it: nobody owes any of us a quick trip to 100 (and yes I have alts on their way up, using bh, crazy stone and questing).

The game was meant to be played, not bypassed. Put me down for wanting to see this become permanent, or some other steps taken to maintain some semblance of the original gameplay.

Krisnda wrote: »

I will agree with the fact that yes, for PvP purposes (and things like NW, TW, etc) compared to players that pay in order to recieve items and such, will be very "higher up" compared to the players that do not "pay to win" (man I hate this quote) because well... it's true. But while you're looking at it from a PvP aspect, also look at it from a PvE aspect. (I will just say beforehand that yes, I do know that this wouldn't stop the "soloers" with decked out gear, but... eh).

i was going to link his repsonse in answer to your answer, but you beat me to it.

that is my point though. this is an old game, competitiveness has scaled wildly. 3 years ago was a different environment.

disabling hypers hurts 100+ players moreso, especially those who did not abuse goons. the removal takes AWAY experience that you practically have to HOARD in order to lvl. yes AEU helps but still, those of you who enjoy having other people's enjoyment of the game curtailed so YOU can feel vindicated for "sticking it out the hard way". there really is no current NEED to disable hypers, the damage has been done. if they REALLY wanted to make an adjustment like that they could have started with simple more comprehensive changes such as re-scaling experience and awards and adding worthwhile content and items to support playing at those levels. we get none of that, we just get hypers being disabled without an announcement or warning. so now those in lower levels MIGHT have more people to play with, but most of them wont have gear, wont have skills levels appropriately, and they wont know how to play their class at a range where knowing your class matter most.


Liam_ maybe you should find another way to use your time other than making assumption about ppl you dont know.

This is a good thing no more hyper fc babies. Keep it as it is but put back mats in fc.

All I have to say is: It is what it is. If it's a glitch, fine. If it's permanent, fine. We are Borg, we will adapt.

Addendum: Spoke up too late. XD

23 pages and growing lol.
I'm mixed about the fc, and warsong nurfing. On one hand I don't care because I have already lvled enough toons with and without FC and I don't ned any more, Got all the weapon molds I need from Warsong to! On the other hand.... the PvP aspect to the game might become to easy for me and others like me.
I always thought that having the option to get to lvl 100 fast, was in some way good for balance in the game. Some high lvl players leave, and new players take there place. Now it seems to me like new players again are being shafted. Not having any low lvl toons its hard for me to tell, maybe these new quests will make up for it exp and coin wise. So now new players are no longer handing money to high lvl Sins for exp, but they can earn exp and gold threw the New Quests. After all they do advertise that the new quests will be good for money.
As for the molds I'm thinking mistake on there part.

Just to help out: Good for Exp and (or) Coin!

Cube, Morai, BH's, PV, AEU, Selling your soul. All good ways...maybe not the last one. b:thanks

LolyLove - Raging Tide wrote: »

good news check
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1574821

just wait until fix them

Thank you very much for sharing this thread with us!

Now a mod please end this thread D= !

burningsweetfire wrote: »

Hyper wasn't in Pwi the whole time, you played after they released hyper exp to the game, you don't understand what we talking about.

lmao so u think out of blue hypering fc was removed because they decided to hear peoples cry lol, its because too many complaints about dcing in nation war. Low levels hypering fc again is not the problem its too many multi accounts during nation war. To think about its high levels abusing hypering just for nation war to get more rewards at the event by having so many damn alts on simultaneously online. 1 account per person during the event could solve this and yes there was no hypering before but it became a way of making coins I see nothing wrong with that. Not all of us wanna invest real cash on a broken game all the time

Oups_Dead - Harshlands wrote: »

pv cannot be soloed by any sin

If you cant solo pv 100+ on a sin, you got more issues other than loosing hypers in fcc

It looks like a lot of the players happy that hypers aren't working are already 100+. Most of them probably hypered frost to hit 100, but now they think others shouldn't be able to do that? That's kind of funny.

Btw, I hit 101 without ever activating hypers, it just took a long time. I did hyper all my alts though. (No way was I going to do all those quests multiple times)

BigDickJoe - Harshlands wrote: »

YES YES YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSS....................now i can see a little more people on the map when i quest, (not sure it if it will be alot) butst still beter then nothing


Its a little late but still its nice to see happen.........was a shame to see such a nice game go so far down in the world because of a exploited gitch, this update keeps getting better and better..for me.

Are you referring to the Dragoon Glitch? Furthermore, you should change your name. Not the kind of thing I wanna see on a forum for an MMO... lil kids might be watching b:avoid

If this IS true, I can change my siggy finally! b:laugh

+1 for the no hyper in FC. Maybe we'll see more people on the map again.

would be interesting to see a poll off who like no hyper on fcc and who want hyper on fcc.

comunity is so split omg b:shocked


and my +1 on no hyper for fcc


even tho i used it on my veno i am not complaining when i can see pp lquesting once again.


and pvp on the full map instead of just west gate/silver pool b:shocked

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

Really ?

Just interesting if developers done something useful.

May be if they will reintroduce quest system, then this game will be better.

this game only be better for ppl to pay more cash for the money, dint you know?
pwi wants remove every quick method for ppl to get high amount of money. also removing methods for get quick stuffs, soon, zhen will be removed, same than go tt along in squad mode etc. they will **** the game even worst than now. why? money, they only cares themselves and theirs money. and auctioner:}} cheaper everyday. so if you think this is a good game pff alot of ppl quiting and selling theirs account and soon pwi will be trashed history.
another thing, about warsoul weapons. do you realy think they would like to get stucked at lvl
80+ to go nw to get one shooted just for get some tokens to farm those warsoul weapons?
maybe thats why fc gone. but anyways if you use warsoul weapon, you will still being one shoot by higuers lvl when they reach to you so.
and now last boss in fw decreased chance to drop molds, very nice shiity update you made pwi i love you all DEAD INSIDE A TOMB STONE. and barbs look, super **** than ever. whats next?