"Having two people in one pav is a waste for warsong"

When I was still using r8, I used to duo fire with another veno and it worked perfectly. Perhaps they don't enjoy the idea of a "freeloader"? (Which is ridiculous since, as you said; five pavs and six members implies one pav should get two.)

TrueHarmony - Archosaur wrote: »

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What does the barb do if not fire pav anyway

I useally wait at npc till timer is done b:cute

In today's average wc squad on my server, I like to see the barb help the cleric in fire provided the cleric isn't well geared. More and more clerics are full g16N3 and +5 average refines with immac gems and with full squad buff, they should be perfectly capable of soloing.

Sometimes I have noticed squads reliance on a bm or a seeker to solo a pav where they can only do so if they aren't purged of blood paint. It may be ideal for a barb to be able to take over while they run to get it if they get purged-killed.

TrueHarmony - Archosaur wrote: »

I've always done duo fire with the barb but every so often a group turns me away because as i said "having two in one pv is a waste". There are six squad members , there are five pavs...math implies you need two in one.

What does the barb do if not fire pav anyway

Sounds like someone wanted to afk themselves or duo an alt for badges so was LF a cleric that could solo, honestly. Only other thing would be 5 person squads which some do for a larger split, even though the split for warsong isn't that big anyways.



Barbs usually get wood. Many smaller mobs means they get chi faster from Bestial Rage, then can aoe (sunder or arma, both two sparks skills).

Earth is also another easy one for barbs since there is a ton of time between mobs and there is only one mob, but it has higher hp. Some barbs like to group two together to build chi and use triple spark to kill. By the time both are dead they have most their chi back. The other thing is these high hp mobs have about 220k hp but will threaten to explode at around 100k. A barb can run away at this point and the mob will die on its own without the barb having to take time to dd the last 100k away.

If you have a clawbarb then they can solo water, earth, wood, or fire pretty easily.

Cellerus - Archosaur wrote: »

If you think having two in one pv is a waste- you're a waste yourself since you duo with a barb b:shutup

Whenever anyone wants to set a standard, they have to set an example.

I think she meant "as I said" as in as she said that in the thread title, not she was saying that herself to the party recruit.


Having said, I'd take a cleric any day to my WS party as long as they do their job well throughout the run, doesn't matter if they have to duo a pav with barb or whatever other pav needs cleric/extra help. It's hard to find clerics than DD's sometimes.

LoraTab - Dreamweaver wrote: »

In today's average wc squad on my server, I like to see the barb help the cleric in fire provided the cleric isn't well geared. More and more clerics are full g16N3 and +5 average refines with immac gems and with full squad buff, they should be perfectly capable of soloing.

Sometimes I have noticed squads reliance on a bm or a seeker to solo a pav where they can only do so if they aren't purged of blood paint. It may be ideal for a barb to be able to take over while they run to get it if they get purged-killed.

Im not sure whether its the whole of HL having less people or just clerics, but yeah the way you've described clerics above doesnt apply to me, and I still get in many squads because there doesnt seem to be many clerics around.

Having said that, I only did full WS once, being only last week, and I said straight up I couldnt solo anything. They didnt want me too and made me the '911'. So I was jumping in and out of the pavillions giving a stream of rejuvination here and there. I dont like being considered a free loader but it seems most full WS squad members are so wealthy they dont care if I pick up a few crumbs to cover costs.

What crock.

My average random squad:
Leader: "You solo."
Me: "Uh..." *checks ping* "Probably not with 3k+ ping."
Leader: "But I need barb in water for help."
OR
Leader: "[Insert class here] wants to AFK for [insert excuse here]. You solo."

My average faction squad:
Squad Leader: "Jace, you sit out just in case of purge/someone needs help."
Me: "Okay!"

Faction squads help me regain enough sanity to join random squads again. b:sad

The bigger waste are the sins/bms that say they can solo but can't - or die every 5mins during the run.