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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2013
    ok MOST of the offenders were caught...enough to get the message across and fix the problem

    Yep. Back then something like the goon fiasco would have been stepped on hard and fast.

    Good times, those days. b:sad

    Nice to see Hey, you! doing what he can to get that kind of message out again, though.
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  • Nenor - Dreamweaver
    Nenor - Dreamweaver Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    I know you don't like it but naming and shaming still isn't allowed and that post was anything but subtle.

    Submit tickets and have others do so as well. Val is trying to get our support to be better about this sort of thing, after all, and the more tickets about the person (with screenshots and details and the like) the better.


    Ok i didn't 'really' name anyone.. but like you said, it wasn't to subtle.b:chuckle

    But the fact of the matter is, after saying exactly WHERE this little birdy that doesnt know the words to the song is, he is STILL there, flitting back and forth between the same 2 npcs crackin' those packs.

    Ofc being a big cs'er has nothing to do with it i'm assuming.

    Anyway, Hooray! i got scolded after all these years, lol. It makes me feel all pretty inside.b:chuckleb:cute
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    But the fact of the matter is, after saying exactly WHERE this little birdy that doesnt know the words to the song is, he is STILL there, flitting back and forth between the same 2 npcs crackin' those packs.

    Heh, that's really good :p
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    thinking of you Zan, I have a peperroni pizza. =P
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2013
    I can please people by scolding them?

    AWESOME!
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  • Nenor - Dreamweaver
    Nenor - Dreamweaver Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    I can please people by scolding them?

    AWESOME!

    LOL, i'm very easy to please. b:laugh
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    I can please people by scolding them?

    AWESOME!

    I've got a few ways in mind that you could please me. b:dirty
  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    I can please people by scolding them?

    AWESOME!
    --wait, what, when did that come up? *scrolls up a bit and doesn't see where it came from 'xD*
    Pff Kossy-wossy I think it's just your presence x3
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  • darknessofmy
    darknessofmy Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Ok i didn't 'really' name anyone.. but like you said, it wasn't to subtle.b:chuckle

    But the fact of the matter is, after saying exactly WHERE this little birdy that doesnt know the words to the song is, he is STILL there, flitting back and forth between the same 2 npcs crackin' those packs.

    Ofc being a big cs'er has nothing to do with it i'm assuming.

    Anyway, Hooray! i got scolded after all these years, lol. It makes me feel all pretty inside.b:chuckleb:cute

    You doing samething as rest of glitchers.
  • Nenor - Dreamweaver
    Nenor - Dreamweaver Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    You doing samething as rest of glitchers.

    LOL, your a complete idiot if you think I have ever glitched anything in this game knowingly. b:laugh
    I'm one of those people, if i see you have a 10 star d.o. in your shop priced for 5 mill, id buy it and send it back to you in your mail. Yea, I might have just passed up a good opportunity to make some free coin, but good lord, its a game, and sometimes karma has a way of biting you in the butt.b:bye
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    You doing samething as rest of glitchers.

    Nenor doesn't strike me as the type of person that would glitch. She is one of the very few people I've known to have actually farmed the g13 Forest's Wisdom, which is quite a feat.

    EDIT: Didn't pay attention, she's already posted /o\
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  • Zarkoff - Raging Tide
    Zarkoff - Raging Tide Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    They will absolutely do something. Give them 6 months to research it, so they get the exact people responsible. Then, issue the ban and recant it two days later.

    sounds about right to me
  • pinups
    pinups Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I remember back in the day when items could be cloned, in Lost City there was about 4 or 5 years ago a cloning glitch, where as long as you REPORTED it and stated you'd continue doing it until it is fixed, you could get away scot free and keep any profits made from exploitation. This was also when Jiaozi coins' were considered "lucky" and affected your drop rate and saw them being sold for 1-2m per pop. while this doesn't seem like a large sum, keep in mind this is when gold was 200-400k a pop, so it was like getting a big note nowadays. This sounds exactly like this problem.
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Honestly, its PWE's exploitation of players for every last penny they can milk them for that ruins the IG economy for the entire gaming population, leading to (dq nerfs, drop rate nerfs, things being removed, ect) and to more players exploiting glitches in the first place

    Fixxed. And you would be quite naive to even make the unintelligent attempt to state anything otherwise. b:bye
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  • darknessofmy
    darknessofmy Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Maybe what haywiz said, give them time.
    And yea, 98% was out of the blue judging by the replies to the wc spam announcing the exploit.

    Just banned the entire server since 1/2 server are glitcher.
  • Nenor - Dreamweaver
    Nenor - Dreamweaver Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Fixxed. And you would be quite naive to even make the unintelligent attempt to state anything otherwise. b:bye

    I'm not talking about the company, im talking strictly about the players.

    All games get to a point that there is to much in game coin generated. Thats what coin sinks are made for. You can't sit there and say that BILLIONS of coins botted or obtained from a glitch doesn't affect the in game economy. The longer in game coin is kept under control, the better/longer the economy will last. Just think back to the first big gold price increase... what was behind that... in game coins from the chests.

    Each little exploit that generates massive amounts of coins hurts the game in the end. Unfortunately, the economy will never improve, and only get worse with time no matter what measures are taken. Who knows, maybe they can at least stifle the bleeding for a while.
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I'm not talking about the company, im talking strictly about the players.

    BILLIONS of coins botted or obtained from a glitch at this point is needed just to attempt to make up for what was taken OUT of the game to begin with... beginning back in about april-ish of 2010

    The longer in game coin is "kept under control" (you mean, taken out of the game more and more all together over the course of a few years... forcing people to pay more and more the higher level they attain JUST to play any REAL aspect of this game, ie... TW, NW, Delta, PK and PK events...)... the better/longer the economy will last (the more people need to spend and are willing to spend only due to how much money and time spent). OTHERWISE... you would be quite right...

    Let me direct you to THIS THREAD...

    Let me help you directly to the point...

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    Each little exploit that generates massive amounts of coins hurts the game in the end. Unfortunately, the economy will never improve, and only get worse with time no matter what measures are taken. Who knows, maybe they can at least stifle the bleeding for a while.

    The greatest exploitations have absolutely come from PWE itself... EXPLOITING the players... period.

    Unfortunately, people like you have somehow bought into PWE's bs lines because they "sound legit"... when if you really just do a little thinking over the things that have progressively gotten more and more obviously in our faces while we are simply forced to swallow those pills... AND... worse yet... many of the end game players at this point (and I'd bet some of the older-aged other players, can even make damn accurate predictions of still whats to come based on PWE's past "expansions and updates" of PWI).

    THE ECONOMY CAN IMPROVE!!!
    b:angry THAT is the problem... PWI has extremely GREAT features that I have yet to see in one package in any other game... I am pretty sure, PWE even knows this... I wish I could have found another game with such features already, we wouldnt be having this discussion then.

    Do you really think this game can NOT be fixxed and made to last "long term"? b:question Truth is, PWI is milking you and everyone else, so just b:quiet and MOOO for them... OR... actually look, actually observe, actually do a little thinking about what you see, and make your voice HEARD. Unless ofc you happen to be brain damaged or damage control working for PWI, you must be able to see this.

    "Nothing can be done to fix the game or its economy"... IS A COMPLETE COP OUT and is bull b:fatb. This game is not as "far gone or lost" as so many seem to think it is... Unfortunately, PWE has so many games that they can most likely give a **** and it blatantly shows.
    All they would need to do is begin a thread themselves, sticky it, and have us, the players give them input... and guess what... WE WOULD GIVE THEM INPUT... and it would all be contained in a single thread (sure, there would be lots of **** among the few gems... but there would be gems to be found... and the players would continue playing rather than abandoning ship... and then a little bit of advertising would bring in a new player base as well)... WE THE PLAYERS ACTUALLY WANT TO SAVE THIS GAME... which would result in longer term income from this game for PWE. But all they can see is "milk them moomoos for all they got! Bleed them dry! Oops... there goes another game... but we have how many more games still milking other idiots?..." b:bye
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  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited March 2013
    Removed individual ban discussion, and as a reminder bans are not to be discussed on the forums.

    edit: also please keep this thread on-topic.

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  • Nenor - Dreamweaver
    Nenor - Dreamweaver Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The greatest exploitations have absolutely come from PWE itself... EXPLOITING the players... period.

    Unfortunately, people like you have somehow bought into PWE's bs lines because they "sound legit"...

    Who said I bought into anything?


    many of the end game players at this point (and I'd bet some of the older-aged other players, can even make damn accurate predictions of still whats to come based on PWE's past "expansions and updates" of PWI).

    Not sure if you mean in game, or actual age there.. either way, I've been here 5 years. And im probably old enough to be your mom. -.-

    THE ECONOMY CAN IMPROVE!!!


    No one said it couldn't.

    Truth is, PWI is milking you and everyone else, so just b:quiet and MOOO for them... OR... actually look, actually observe, actually do a little thinking about what you see, and make your voice HEARD. .

    Im pretty much a free to play player, no one is milking me, lol. What ive spent in game is mostly skins/aero/mounts for myself and a few things for others. And thats over a 5 year period. (Not that its any of your business.)


    Unless ofc you happen to be brain damaged or damage control working for PWI, you must be able to see this

    I don't know why you feel the need to throw insults. What are you, 14?


    To reply to what you replied to in my post.

    ( at this point is needed just to attempt to make up for what was taken OUT of the game to begin with... beginning back in about april-ish of 2010)

    The dq nerfs (im assuming ) were due to players botting.(presumably) =Player cheating issue. Not a company issue. (although they could have just cracked down on the botters)


    (you mean, taken out of the game more and more all together over the course of a few years... forcing people to pay more and more the higher level they attain JUST to play any REAL aspect of this game, ie... TW, NW, Delta, PK and PK events...)

    People are forced, as you say, to pay more in game coin if they are ftp, because there is to much ig coin in the game. The csers costs stay generally the same, .. why? b/c its REAL life money. And btw, no one is 'forced' to buy anything. I'm not going to sit here and attempt to try to explain that the more coin there is in a game, the more things cost, which in turn forces the company running the game to try to remove coin from the game by either putting in more coin sinks, or you know... nerfing things. Go take an economics course.

    (the more people need to spend and are willing to spend only due to how much money and time spent)

    No one 'needs' to spend anything. If they CHOOSE to spend anything, that is their business. Also if they choose to spend their time earning everything by in game methods, that is their business also.

    I find your entire rant kind of funny, when this discussion was about people cheating the system , therefore pumping billions of coins into the ig economy from a glitch. If you cant understand how that affects the game economics, then thats your short falling. The fact remains, that they should be punished for exploiting the system.

    Btw, I won't be replying to anymore off topic, name calling none sense, So, good luck with that.
    b:bye
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    So I only heard about the Dreamchaser Pack glitch yesterday, I didn't get to make billions of coins. Who all got lots and lots of them and wants to share a few hundred million with me? b:cute

    Actually...

    Its about a player that missed their chance to do so...

    and asking for coins from others that sailed that ship...


    I don't see anyone offering this fellow any coin however...

    and everything else is off topic...

    right or wrong isnt even part of the original post.
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  • gyroki
    gyroki Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    on lc server almost everyone of a big nation seems to have abused it, i see all of them self-buffed with blinking poultique atm. Or did we get any other source for them lately?
  • CroPsy - Heavens Tear
    CroPsy - Heavens Tear Posts: 476 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Will we at least get 2x as a way to apologize for us who didn't abuse glitch? b:laugh

    This is becoming so stupid. Everyone who use any glitch in game won't be banned. So please, next time when there is some glitch in game - share it on forums a bit sooner, so everyone can use it. b:victory b:laugh
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    gyroki wrote: »
    on lc server almost everyone of a big nation seems to have abused it, i see all of them self-buffed with blinking poultique atm. Or did we get any other source for them lately?

    the maiden chests off the dq rewards when that works gives those... people so paranoid about who abused what b:chuckle
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  • gyroki
    gyroki Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    the maiden chests off the dq rewards when that works gives those... people so paranoid about who abused what b:chuckle

    so ppl started to get maiden chests by dq rewards for the 1st time a few days ago, interesting.
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    gyroki wrote: »
    so ppl started to get maiden chests by dq rewards for the 1st time a few days ago, interesting.
    NO silly... the dq points finally went thru for the first time a few days ago b:cute
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  • Father_gold - Sanctuary
    Father_gold - Sanctuary Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The greatest exploitations have absolutely come from PWE itself... EXPLOITING the players... period.

    Unfortunately, people like you have somehow bought into PWE's bs lines because they "sound legit"... when if you really just do a little thinking over the things that have progressively gotten more and more obviously in our faces while we are simply forced to swallow those pills... AND... worse yet... many of the end game players at this point (and I'd bet some of the older-aged other players, can even make damn accurate predictions of still whats to come based on PWE's past "expansions and updates" of PWI).

    THE ECONOMY CAN IMPROVE!!!
    b:angry THAT is the problem... PWI has extremely GREAT features that I have yet to see in one package in any other game... I am pretty sure, PWE even knows this... I wish I could have found another game with such features already, we wouldnt be having this discussion then.

    Do you really think this game can NOT be fixxed and made to last "long term"? b:question Truth is, PWI is milking you and everyone else, so just b:quiet and MOOO for them... OR... actually look, actually observe, actually do a little thinking about what you see, and make your voice HEARD. Unless ofc you happen to be brain damaged or damage control working for PWI, you must be able to see this.

    "Nothing can be done to fix the game or its economy"... IS A COMPLETE COP OUT and is bull b:fatb. This game is not as "far gone or lost" as so many seem to think it is... Unfortunately, PWE has so many games that they can most likely give a **** and it blatantly shows.
    All they would need to do is begin a thread themselves, sticky it, and have us, the players give them input... and guess what... WE WOULD GIVE THEM INPUT... and it would all be contained in a single thread (sure, there would be lots of **** among the few gems... but there would be gems to be found... and the players would continue playing rather than abandoning ship... and then a little bit of advertising would bring in a new player base as well)... WE THE PLAYERS ACTUALLY WANT TO SAVE THIS GAME... which would result in longer term income from this game for PWE. But all they can see is "milk them moomoos for all they got! Bleed them dry! Oops... there goes another game... but we have how many more games still milking other idiots?..." b:bye


    yeah i think i have to agree with this response more than any other. its funny that we have players ripping other players when that is the job of the company running the game. you guys QQ about this glitch and that, what others have and what you do not. more direct actions are not taken because they never intended to take them.

    goong glitchers were not punished, so what? did it affect your ability to lvl? nope. maybe those in the lower levels had to try harder to make bh groups, but selling FCC has done more to harm that than anything else.

    pack glitchers, ok whats the prob here, i only see envy by ppl who could not also make use of the glitch. otherwise what is the difference between the people who used the glitch and those who swiped a credit card for 2k? nothing... to you, maybe except that you see another person move that much further along than you.

    in effect the complaints here are the same complaints one would levy against cash shoppers, because they have "an unfair advantage". if you guys who are on the straight and narrow REALLY did not care about anything but your own game experience, then why are you making these remarks when clearly the glitches are all contrived by the company to advance endgame?

    it's actually pretty damn hard to FTP this game anymore. of course its possible but for everyone. if the amount of people merching gear were to double, then the markets would be totally screwed. i can see it already, too many able solo-farmers, not enough sheep. too many merchanters, not enough buyers. endgame HAS to come from the cash shop now, r9+ is the only endgame. for those who think g16 is comparable... just... no.

    why are so many new items only available in cash shop when they are completely farmable in other forms of this game? you need to spend hard earned coin or real life money to get 10 more quest slots, and the ability to auto pot. you can't escape the cash shop to do deep meditation. rep is not directly farmable at the level where r9 is attainable in-game.

    but you still have the choice to play free, free but not competitive.

    so why the outrage over some stupid pack? there are always these dumb threads about " qqwhats gonna happen to these ppl? ", how about " QQ why don't you fix the game?"

    oh and those botting probs are from china not here, even though we have a few. PWI is responsible for not offering a decent remuneration for us being punished for a wholly different game's issues.