Are guardian scrolls broken?

Ninuska - Lost City
Ninuska - Lost City Posts: 92 Arc User
edited March 2013 in General Discussion
Hello,
so these days everyone knows about the assassin DQ drop skill, right. So I've been carrying a doll (guardian scroll) in my inventory only cause of this one reason, to protect my DQ items from naughty sins.
However, the other day my 9x alt dropped DQ items even with a doll in inventory. Doll got consumed, of course, and yet I dropped my DQ items.
I submitted a ticket about it, since this should not ever happen, and got a reply saying "it shouldn't happen". Well, hopefully they will look more into it D;
So anyway, I'm wondering if anyone had this ever happened or I managed to break dolls b:shocked
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  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Ninuska - Lost City wrote: »
    Hello,
    so these days everyone knows about the assassin DQ drop skill, right. So I've been carrying a doll (guardian scroll) in my inventory only cause of this one reason, to protect my DQ items from naughty sins.
    However, the other day my 9x alt dropped DQ items even with a doll in inventory. Doll got consumed, of course, and yet I dropped my DQ items.
    I submitted a ticket about it, since this should not ever happen, and got a reply saying "it shouldn't happen". Well, hopefully they will look more into it D;
    So anyway, I'm wondering if anyone had this ever happened or I managed to break dolls b:shocked

    Guardian Scrolls are somewhat glitchy. You can "drop a GS". I am not sure if this is related to what happened in your case. While there isn't any indepth research conducted, based on the implications of this and the way the game calculates drops, for more reliable results, carry 1 stack of 21+ GS, and another stack of 2+ GS. This should greatly reduce the probability of any glitch occuring, since not only is 20 the maximum possible number of GS you can drop in a stack, but it is even more unlikely that you will drop two stacks of GS.

    However, this is just theory, as I cannot back it up with any calculations since I am not entirely clear on the mechanics.
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  • BareBear - Lost City
    BareBear - Lost City Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    its definitely broken, Henawen got pk'd yesterday and the scroll was consumed, but she still dropped a LOT of stuff.. ( she was / is white name )
  • Subtraction - Harshlands
    Subtraction - Harshlands Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    this thread seems 100% legit
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  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    b:embarrass__I actually wonder if they even bothered to rewrite the Guardian Scrolls (sub-programming) to screen out the SINs 'Morai skill' yet????b:question

    Or If they have it so that since that 'Morai skill' isn't really a (PvP kill skill) but a (living target pilfering skill~DQ wise) that it doesn't even qualify as an attack type that the {GSs} can even cover at all???b:puzzled
  • Fissile - Archosaur
    Fissile - Archosaur Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    PK drops are occasionally glitchy from what I have heard (I've seen screenshots of people dropping bound gear in PK among other oddities), but submitting a ticket should at least get your stuff back if you have a screenshot.
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  • Ninuska - Lost City
    Ninuska - Lost City Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Well, yeah. They can replace my dropped items, but the point is, it shouldn't be happening in the first place. So far I have heard about more people who dropped DQs while carrying a doll and I'm just wondering if this will be fixed.
    Like 4 years ago there was a glitch, when people were dropping the dolls and bound gear, which was fixed fast. This one only affects DQ items so far, but who knows...
  • TheFire - Lost City
    TheFire - Lost City Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    deff make shure you take a SS cuz your not spused to drop any thing if you have dolls,the doll is spoused to keep the sin from even looking into your invatory or at lest that what i thought it said when i was reading up on the moir skills lists.thay even told my buddie that he should have been carrying dolls when he put in a ticket about him droping when he had his locks set.so im a say if any one has droped any thing with a dool send in a ticket about it.thay cant fix it if thay dont know lol is what thay would tell us b:chuckle
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Sort of off topic but.... Those Dreamchaser packs meant for low levels that were given away from facebook with the event code came with Guardian Scrolls that were titled "will not be consumed upon use."

    Wanna guess what happens when you die? They're consumed.
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Sort of off topic but.... Those Dreamchaser packs meant for low levels that were given away from facebook with the event code came with Guardian Scrolls that were titled "will not be consumed upon use."

    Wanna guess what happens when you die? They're consumed.

    actually it says "Guardian scrolls will not be consumed" so it could be interpreted as "your other, regular scrolls will not be consumed". now go die and test it :b
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  • TheDendra - Harshlands
    TheDendra - Harshlands Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    You will drop ALL dq after dying even if you have guardian scrolls and even if you have safety lock. Is it a glitch or not, either way it's ****. First of all why the hell did sins get that skill in the first place? I didn't know they needed help farming pve and second of all, it's bs all dq items get dropped as opposed to all of us being restricted to getting maximum of 20 per item dropped.
  • Sizzer - Raging Tide
    Sizzer - Raging Tide Posts: 2,387 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    This is a serious issue all thou i have never seen this happening in Raging Tide but i guess it is because i'm on PvE server ppl should Ticket more and get it fixed thou i'm not sure when it will be fixed becoz it's a game play issue can only be fixed by Dev's . b:surrender
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  • Mr_Lapp - Lost City
    Mr_Lapp - Lost City Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It Happened to me today b:cry
  • Caelianna/ - Archosaur18
    Caelianna/ - Archosaur18 Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    i have questions:

    how is being able to steal dq items a "skill"? does this enhance your fighting prowess? why is this "skill" peculiar to sins? don't they already have a way to "cheat" in pk with stealth?

    the moral of the story is: don't pk with valuable stuff in your bag except your essential equipped gear for fighting and if you can't do that? don't pk b:chuckle
  • fant00m
    fant00m Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    This glitch definitely exists as its happened to me as well. One thing that I should mention was that after i sent a ticket I was given chest of coins to the equivalent DQ value. I said this wasnt the case as I sell the DQ for much more than i can made from chest of coins and they replied- sorry but ALL DQ is 1 coin each so this is fair replacement! o_O

    I had to push several times for them to also send some coins too which they did after a while.
  • soundslegit
    soundslegit Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    TheDendra - Harshlands wrote: »
    You will drop ALL dq after dying even if you have guardian scrolls and even if you have safety lock. Is it a glitch or not, either way it's ****. First of all why the hell did sins get that skill in the first place? I didn't know they needed help farming pve and second of all, it's bs all dq items get dropped as opposed to all of us being restricted to getting maximum of 20 per item dropped.

    Standard theory is so they can kill the botters and get rid of them. If this sounds stupid to you don't kill the messenger.
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  • VKnightV - Lost City
    VKnightV - Lost City Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    but in pwi the botter would deff be sins as there so damn many of them.


    in pw_cn yes veno are probably the botters but here i say the sins are the botters.


    botting with aps cant be eisier then it is lol.
  • _Benihime_ - Lost City
    _Benihime_ - Lost City Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    TheFire - Lost City wrote: »
    deff make shure you take a SS cuz your not spused to drop any thing if you have dolls,the doll is spoused to keep the sin from even looking into your invatory or at lest that what i thought it said when i was reading up on the moir skills lists.thay even told my buddie that he should have been carrying dolls when he put in a ticket about him droping when he had his locks set.so im a say if any one has droped any thing with a dool send in a ticket about it.thay cant fix it if thay dont know lol is what thay would tell us b:chuckle

    **** man, you really need to learn how to spell and use grammar...

    ANYWAYS i've never dropped with a GS on, and this is first time i heard of this...i hope it gets fixed soon ninu b:chuckle
  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Caelianna/ - Archosaur wrote: »
    i have questions:

    how is being able to steal dq items a "skill"? does this enhance your fighting prowess? why is this "skill" peculiar to sins? don't they already have a way to "cheat" in pk with stealth?

    the moral of the story is: don't pk with valuable stuff in your bag except your essential equipped gear for fighting and if you can't do that? don't pk b:chuckle

    Its a pretty useless skill. Probably implemented as a sort of anti-bot measure, but its completely useless in pve servers, and rarely useful in pvp servers.
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  • SinFulGodX - Sanctuary
    SinFulGodX - Sanctuary Posts: 347 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    the only way this can happen is if you carry gs in 1 stack instead of 2 stacks...

    so carrying 1 stack of 100 gs is worse than 2 stacks of 1 gs each...

    also if you drop with gs you can get items 100% returned lol
  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    SinFulGodX - Sanctuary wrote: »
    the only way this can happen is if you carry gs in 1 stack instead of 2 stacks...

    so carrying 1 stack of 100 gs is worse than 2 stacks of 1 gs each...

    also if you drop with gs you can get items 100% returned lol

    Since when do GS stack to 100 anyway? b:chuckle
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  • SinFulGodX - Sanctuary
    SinFulGodX - Sanctuary Posts: 347 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Since when do GS stack to 100 anyway? b:chuckle

    99 i mean sorry :D
  • Caelianna/ - Archosaur19
    Caelianna/ - Archosaur19 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Its a pretty useless skill. Probably implemented as a sort of anti-bot measure, but its completely useless in pve servers, and rarely useful in pvp servers.

    ty for the reply :)

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