[Head of Your Name Here]

Apostasy - Raging Tide
Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
edited March 2013 in Suggestion Box
When in PK Mode, a player who gets the kill blow on another PK enabled player... gets their Head! b:sin

So I thought about this for about half an hour and realized...

heads should be stackable of the same name player in inventory AND in a new equipment slot among the rest of our gear. There would only be 1 slot available to place a head of an opponent's name.

They can not be tradeable, but can be account stashable.

(ADD: Heads can not be swapped out in combat, same as Genies)

(ADD: Heads can be sold only to an npc for 1 coin each)

(ADD: Based on how Heads would be aquired, I do not believe they would be aquired in events such as TW and NW. However... they can be used as intended in those instances. This might add to strategies used in said events.)

(ADD: Heads should be temporary items which last 7-14 days. Screen Shot it if you are that sentimental about an opponent's head)

(ADD: Heads can be traded in for various items, perhaps with the Bounty Hunter, or make a Head Hunter npc? The deeper into pk the head, the better the items it can be traded in for? And ofc, like so many other similar things in this game, wether we are talking dyes, socket stones, luck tokens... It would take numbers of heads to have enough to trade in for said items. Just remember tho, heads of varying names do not stack, so consider this aspect with respect to a player having an account stash, full safe and full inventory.... This might increase sales in those items?)

ADD : In regard to trade-in issues and heads : From page 3

ADD : Variable Possibility for Crafting : From page 3

ADD : Possibly for crafting and/or trade-in : From page 2

Based on the deepness into pk'ing of the opponent, their head will be given accordingly :

[Head of Your Name Here]
+1 atk lvl / +1 def lvl / +100 mgc and phs damage / +100 ele resist / +100 phys def
*** BUT : ONLY VS the player of that name.

[Head of Your Name Here]
+2 atk lvl / +2 def lvl / +200 mgc and phs damage / +200 ele resist / +200 phys def
*** BUT : ONLY VS the player of that name.

[Head of Your Name Here]
+3 atk lvl / +3 def lvl / +300 mgc and phs damage / +300 ele resist / +300 phys def
*** BUT : ONLY VS the player of that name.

[Head of Your Name Here]
+4 atk lvl / +4 def lvl / +400 mgc and phs damage / +400 ele resist / +400 phys def
*** BUT : ONLY VS the player of that name.

This might liven up the PK scene a bit across all the servers b:victory Who knows? b:puzzled Add to this, it might make group PK a little more interesting too... Who will have your head? b:shocked Well, lets get this head rolling... And dont lose your head while possibly adding to this suggestion b:cute
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  • Runemine - Dreamweaver
    Runemine - Dreamweaver Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    What are you smoking.......
    101 Blademaster(Pro/Fail 4.0 BM with 11k base HP+G16(+10))
    100 Seeker(The Vortex Beast)
    86 Assassin(Solo king)
    76 Archer(Squishy Nuker)
    72 Cleric(Horrible healer)
    67 Barb(Buff baby)
    61 Wizard(King Aoe)
    37 Mystic(Fun project)
  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    What's this nonsense? lol
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    smoking? b:question nonsense? b:surprised

    are you kidding? THIS is gonna be awesome for the pk scene ... b:cool
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  • Shardik - Lost City
    Shardik - Lost City Posts: 625 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    But wouldn't that be like a mini-blessing?

    Anyways, its not THAT bad idea hehehe

    He just wants some kind of reward from PK :3

    Aside the obvious ones :3

    That is all.
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    But wouldn't that be like a mini-blessing?

    Anyways, its not THAT bad idea hehehe

    He just wants some kind of reward from PK :3

    Aside the obvious ones :3

    That is all.

    well thank you... but actually, would only be a blessing versus the player's head you got... its more of a TROPHY thing b:chuckle
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  • Runemine - Dreamweaver
    Runemine - Dreamweaver Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Just caring around someone head sound err yeah.....
    101 Blademaster(Pro/Fail 4.0 BM with 11k base HP+G16(+10))
    100 Seeker(The Vortex Beast)
    86 Assassin(Solo king)
    76 Archer(Squishy Nuker)
    72 Cleric(Horrible healer)
    67 Barb(Buff baby)
    61 Wizard(King Aoe)
    37 Mystic(Fun project)
  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    So i guess once you kill someone, it just makes it more easier to kill them again? Sounds kinda boring actually, cause then it just makes it less and less challenging with each successive kill til there is no way they can beat you. Or someone can farm you multiple times while you're low leveled, and then you will have no hope of getting your revenge on them even once you're high leveled. It must be made so that you drop all "Heads" both in your inventory, account stash, other characters and bank upon death or something of that sort.

    I think it would serve better just as a trophy to those people who want "proof that they killed someone". But then that's just a egotistical thing anyway.
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  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    PWI is PG-13 so this idea is a bit morbid lol
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    morbid? id be playing a necromancer if pwi had such a class... just think about the morbidity of that b:sin ... psy was closest thing i could find, and ive been customizing myself toward being more of a necromancer still... morbid b:laugh b:laugh b:laugh

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    and for u Zsw, who misinterpreted my idea a lot...
    So i guess once you kill someone, it just makes it more easier to kill them again?
    although you are correct here (but really, those adds are barely anything)
    Sounds kinda boring actually, cause then it just makes it less and less challenging with each successive kill til there is no way they can beat you. Or someone can farm you multiple times while you're low leveled, and then you will have no hope of getting your revenge on them even once you're high leveled.
    RIGHT HERE. You can stack the heads in that slot, yes... but you would only get the effect of ONE head. That one head would grant you as the above lists say. Which are fair. If you are blood red and get killed, then the killer gets the greatest advantage bonuses against you. If you are just white named, they get the lowest. Thats not any big deal considering what its supposed to mean if you actually got blood red legit...
    It must be made so that you drop all "Heads" both in your inventory, account stash, other characters and bank upon death or something of that sort.
    this line, might as well just disregard... pretend you didnt type it.
    I think it would serve better just as a trophy to those people who want "proof that they killed someone". But then that's just a egotistical thing anyway.
    have you looked around? cause there are no egomaniacs on any server? lol... something tells me based on ur entire posting of contributing nothing and how much you typed... your head would be in everyone's bag on dreamweaver... oh *psy*
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  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    have you looked around? cause there are no egomaniacs on any server? lol... something tells me based on ur entire posting of contributing nothing and how much you typed... your head would be in everyone's bag on dreamweaver... oh *psy*


    I am contributing nothing? Actually I am in fact contributing my opinion. You just don't agree with it, lol. Since this is the suggestion box, what I'm writing is my opinion towards your suggestion. Afterall, whats the point of having this place unless people state their opinion? o:

    If you're gonna insist that I'm contributing nothing then your reply should be changed to: "I'm QQing cause you didn't agree with my idea."

    So let me see if I'm getting this right. If you're blood red, then that means you must have killed alot of people. So you probably have everyone's head already. So this implies two things:

    1v1, you'll definitely have a pretty major advantage
    In mass pk, its kinda useless.

    Am I correct? So thats why I think it's kinda boring, since its mostly gonna be useful in 1 v 1 only. But why would you want a major advantage in 1v1? It's only really fun when you two have equal stats.
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    1v1, you'll definitely have a pretty major advantage
    In mass pk, its kinda useless.
    1v1, this could only have a major advantage if u use ur inventory bag for heads and leave urself nearly no room in that inventory... 1 name head = 1 inventory slot... they would not stack beyond a single name.

    In mass pk, this could actually be very valuable... but that takes a faction or squad organizing properly... but only IF certain key targets heads were won outside of the mass pk event arenas... which might also take proper group tactics to begin with...

    And please... state 1 "contribution" you made so far b:question
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  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    1v1, this could only have a major advantage if u use ur inventory bag for heads and leave urself nearly no room in that inventory... 1 name head = 1 inventory slot... they would not stack beyond a single name.

    In mass pk, this could actually be very valuable... but that takes a faction or squad organizing properly... but only IF certain key targets heads were won outside of the mass pk event arenas... which might also take proper group tactics to begin with...

    And please... state 1 "contribution" you made so far b:question

    Why do you need to fill up your inventory for 1 v 1? Just keep everything in the bank, then pull out the head of whoever you're 1v1ing.

    I think it could be useful in pvp server. But on pve server you'd get the exact opposite results. Instead of more people going into pvp, probably less will go into pvp so that their head could never be claimed so no one can use it against them. I think it would need to be done differently for different servers in that case.

    And i told you, I am contributing my opinion. It is an alternative way of looking at things. Perhaps things that you have not considered. Two heads are better than one.
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  • thegreatconquero
    thegreatconquero Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Another stupid idea from a fanatic person. :(
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I don't even....
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Why do you need to fill up your inventory for 1 v 1? Just keep everything in the bank, then pull out the head of whoever you're 1v1ing.

    I think it could be useful in pvp server. But on pve server you'd get the exact opposite results. Instead of more people going into pvp, probably less will go into pvp so that their head could never be claimed so no one can use it against them. I think it would need to be done differently for different servers in that case.

    And i told you, I am contributing my opinion. It is an alternative way of looking at things. Perhaps things that you have not considered. Two heads are better than one.

    This post... yes, I can agree you are contributing here. Perhaps I just am "hearing the tone" of your previous posts in a wrong manner. Text is often problematic that way.

    In raging tides, I am pretty sure this would not, or even could not, hinder the pk scene in any way tbh. Only the foolish, ignorant or those that jdgaf go pk mode on rt before level 100. This would be a new shiny thing added to the scene, that even though there are apparently those who themselves wouldnt be interested (or I'd guess, just dont dont have a real appreciation for pvp at all), they think their opinions matter in wether or not others would find this fun.

    Ofc there is always the trolling a person's head over wc that i can easily see happening within rt. They troll each other in game and on the forums now as it is. At least this would add something fun to that even as well. But I think the first post I made and editted is a good ground for the concept surrounding this.

    PS... my super safe and account stash are both full... and my super inventory is like 2 slots away from half full b:surrender
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  • Broederjr - Lost City
    Broederjr - Lost City Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    wouldnt it be better instead of a buy it would be used as a currentcy in a special pvp shop to buy w/e they would have there ex. charms.I would actually pk on bm alot more and the heads(currency) would hav eto follow pk rules to gain so ppl cant spamm kill ppl for it
  • Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear
    Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear Posts: 879 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Hannibal Lecter at it's finest. Maybe we can use the skin from their backs to make capes.
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    wouldnt it be better instead of a buy it would be used as a currentcy in a special pvp shop to buy w/e they would have there ex. charms.I would actually pk on bm alot more and the heads(currency) would hav eto follow pk rules to gain so ppl cant spamm kill ppl for it

    Heads to be traded in for stuff, I like it... ill edit the first post to include this b:victory
    Hannibal Lecter at it's finest. Maybe we can use the skin from their backs to make capes.

    Nah... "Off with her head!" - The Red Queen from Alice in Wonderland... a children's cartoon mind you... further still from Disney no less... Why does automatically, so many people see this as so gruesome? It's really not.
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Well, about the gruesome part... you can make it "Essence of [Name]". But aren't we already farming similar stuff for gear? (TT) XD

    Anyway, a minor buff against one person (that will eat all my inventory) doesn't really motivate me to pk. An engraving armor craft where you get stats depending on the kind of people you kill on the other hand sounds good (like, 100 Essence of Barb for 10hp :p). Although, not 1 essence/person but depending on gear level. And factor contributions from other people and the victim's fight (or penalize him with). Actually, that sounds pretty awesome:

    Barb: hp, vit
    Veno: str
    BM: pdef
    Wizzie: mag
    Archer: crit, dex
    Cleric: mattack
    Sin: pattack
    Psy: attack lvls
    Seeker: def lvls
    Mystic: mdef
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  • Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear
    Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear Posts: 879 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Heads to be traded in for stuff, I like it... ill edit the first post to include this b:victory



    Nah... "Off with her head!" - The Red Queen from Alice in Wonderland... a children's cartoon mind you... further still from Disney no less... Why does automatically, so many people see this as so gruesome? It's really not.


    I don't see it as gruesome, just slightly disturbing. Yes it's Disney, but so is Pinoccio, but i'm not asking for the gm's to give me wood. Fun for the whole family.
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  • Zenmarster - Harshlands
    Zenmarster - Harshlands Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I like the idea,
    but instead of making it the hunter that gets stronger, make it the one that lost his head? It would lead to the other player actualy can get revenge or something like it.

    Even thoug this happends, people will be able to abuse it, by for example letting eachother die all the time?
  • Je////y - Archosaur40
    Je////y - Archosaur40 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    PWI is PG-13 so this idea is a bit morbid lol

    if only that were true i walk through citys and see players openly cybering in normal chat so if its pg-13 you would think they would censor more sexual words than the only 2 words they censor sexual wise. ijs b:chuckle
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    In all honesty... who is going to let someone not actually earn getting their head unless they are friends? And based on how that head would only allow +bonuses to killing that player (their friend), what real way could this be abused? The only abuse could come from making unlimited head drops and heads to be able to be turned in for other nicknacks... so unless their is a way to curb this (like only allowing 1 head drop bound per player period for each player, altho im not sure if this is an easy task programming), I wouldnt suggest a head turn-in type addition to this...
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Having gear that gives bonuses when battling a particular player is a neat idea. I can imagine it as a crafting profession where you can sell people voodoo dolls that help counter specific individuals.

    SweetieBot, give 7 points to Apostasy - Raging Tide for his creativity.
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    SweetieBot - Lothranis Posts: 18,978 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    SweetieBot, give 7 points to Apostasy - Raging Tide for his creativity.
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    b:cute aw shucks
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    No one wants [Head of Apostasy] to flaunt in wc? b:chuckle
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  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Heh, I like this Idea, it's pretty sweet
    But I think I'd get to worried about who was flaunting [Head of Zheii] cause I sometimes die from the stupidest things in pk.. <.<"

    ~What happens if you get ganked? whoever gets the final hit and actually "kills" you gets the head? or does it rely on most dmg done?
    ~Is it a pk drop? or is it sort of like a quest item that you instantly acquire in your inventory after you've made the kill.
    ~If it is a pk drop can it be randomized in squad? and if so, would it then be possible to get Heads of people you didn't kill?

    And etc o,o
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Heh, I like this Idea, it's pretty sweet
    But I think I'd get to worried about who was flaunting [Head of Zheii] cause I sometimes die from the stupidest things in pk.. <.<"

    ~What happens if you get ganked? whoever gets the final hit and actually "kills" you gets the head? or does it rely on most dmg done?
    ~Is it a pk drop? or is it sort of like a quest item that you instantly acquire in your inventory after you've made the kill.
    ~If it is a pk drop can it be randomized in squad? and if so, would it then be possible to get Heads of people you didn't kill?

    And etc o,o

    lol...

    i would think either one of those would be good... the final kill blow OR the most damage...

    it is definitely a pk drop... it should be able to be noticed on the floor openly for everyone to see... but bound already to who actually got it...

    no, it should definitely not be random...
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  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lol...

    i would think either one of those would be good... the final kill blow OR the most damage...

    it is definitely a pk drop... it should be able to be noticed on the floor openly for everyone to see... but bound already to who actually got it...

    no, it should definitely not be random...

    Okay, well I don't think you can have both options with who gets the head, so that would have to be decided, and the "head" would also have to be locked, so that only the person who made the kill can pick it, I'm not sure how hard that is to actually do, but it would be worth looking into o.o.

    And yes.. I can think of quite a few peoples heads I'd like.. like [Head of Jarkhen]... Killing your ex husband for their head is allowed right? b:chuckle
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