Raging Tide's TW state

"You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong."
"You cannot help little men by tearing down big men."
"You cannot build character and courage by destroying men's initiative and independence."

- From "The Ten Cannots" by William John Henry Boetcker, circa 1916

I'll keep it simple: The solution to the TW problem is not for Vicious to be disbanded. Why should Vicious be punished for their success? Why should it be taken from a group who (as a whole) worked for what they have just because other people don't want to put forth the effort? If you want to fix the problem then you have to identify the problem. The problem isn't Vicious, the problem is everyone else.

I think I'm sexy but you guys already know it. b:cute

You would be surprised how much influence one person can have to a big group. (don't take it the wrong way but Hitler is a grand example of one man turning millions of people into what he wants them to be, not saying anyone is anything like him but yeah...one person can do a lot).

lol oh this was a fun read, thanks for the lols folks. b:thanks

Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »

Spell Caster, you know they love you and QQme. They obviously can't get enough of you and your faction. Just think...if you and QQme disappeared tomorrow, what would they do? What would they have to do - with you, as the center of their focus, gone?

Just look at how much they rage on you for CSing - like no one in Vici has ever done that. b:chuckle

Their whole identity and reason for being would be gone with you it seems.

A new 'cool story' would need to be developed and told. This forum would be devoid of every thread it currently has.

Who knows...maybe even a whole new RT would need to be formed, lol. *shrugs*

Nope, Spell! You HAVE to know they truely do love you. If they didnt, they would just ignore you.

Da proof is in da puddin' b:victory

Exactly. It used to be me until I left. I guess that makes you my heir, Spell. b:laugh

Bhavyy - Raging Tide wrote: »

No.
Spell caster comes into threads talking like he is the voice of qqme and making these threads about himself. This thread literally has nothing to do with him or this attitude or behaviour yet somehow it has become the topic of discussion by his own doing.
No one in vicious would give a **** if spell disappeared.
Actually no, I lie. There'd be a big celebration party.

LOL, no way you would celebrate, or, maybe for like a minute. xD

But tbh, if he left, and QQme disappeared, who would you fight? Who would give Vici that 'challenge' they are so desperate for, or claim to be?


I agree it takes 2 to argue, and Spell is a willing participant in your 'discussions' of him, but its hardly a case of Spell picking on the nice guys.

Guess that means he loves you too! *winks*

Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »

NEW POLL: Should factions be allowed to marry on PWI?

Discuss!


xD

They already can, it's called an alliance. And as far as Spell is concerned no one would cry if troll Spell would go away. Now sane constructive Spell thats a diffrent story. This thread is about the state of TW on RT make another thread instead of failing to derail this one.

OK I see where this is going. May as well close this thread, the fail trolls are out and it's just going to stay off topic. Too bad, it had potential.

Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »

LOL, no way you would celebrate, or, maybe for like a minute. xD

But tbh, if he left, and QQme disappeared, who would you fight? Who would give Vici that 'challenge' they are so desperate for, or claim to be?


I agree it takes 2 to argue, and Spell is a willing participant in your 'discussions' of him, but its hardly a case of Spell picking on the nice guys.

Guess that means he loves you too! *winks*

If qqme disappeared we'd still be fighting no one. GG.
Stop your fail trolling. This thread already had 1 spell caster on it.

Lets try and bring the discussion back to the topic.

Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »

This is the part where they 'double-team' on a fail point.

Yes, Bhavvy, take it back on topic. Ill watch.

I don't need anyone to doubble team you. You're too easy, it's not even worth it. Yes that is how the thread started but it changed and became something else. You failed to read all of that I guess and just started with the garbage statement. Don't worry I'm no longer concerned if this stays on topic or not. RT always shows it's true troll collors so why fight the tide? Continue with your "troll" statements love to see what you come up with next, im sure it will be "brilliant".

TruthWarren - Raging Tide wrote: »

"hurr hurr Brilyance haz a point, she must b troling"

That's about what I'm getting from this. You guys talk about Spell_Caster all the time, you make whole threads dedicated to him, and you have the nerve to try and act like he doesn't matter to you. You need him. If Spell were to leave Raging Tide, you would be clamoring to find someone else to place your attention on. This isn't just about TW, this is a veiled attempt to make you feel better about yourselves.

And how was this conclusion conjured?
No one has made a spell caster troll thread in months except spell caster recently (LOL) which got closed.
Vicious does not need spell caster. That's... Such a random statement to make (my opinion ofc) xD sorry if I don't understand what you mean by that it just doesn't make sense in y head

Al queda : America please give us some soldiers, we are no match atm and we're losing men daily. Give us some of your men to help fight against you, Soon you will have an equal and fair fight.

This is all I get from this thread. How much sense does this make? Sure, vicious members will join QQme, the faction that was their rival since day one to kill members of the faction who they have been together with for so long, lol.

This is what I see here. QQme members, vicious members do tend to have a different view of server situations and just because you're in a hole does not mean they will change their point of views and see things your way.

In all fairness, try to recruit better, try to talk to other factions about future merges or alliances and the tides might turn in your favor. Also, because factions don't see eye to eye with you on other things does not make them puppets of another. b:bye

Bhavyy - Raging Tide wrote: »

No.
Spell caster comes into threads talking like he is the voice of qqme and making these threads about himself. This thread literally has nothing to do with him or this attitude or behaviour yet somehow it has become the topic of discussion by his own doing.
No one in vicious would give a **** if spell disappeared.
Actually no, I lie. There'd be a big celebration party.

You hurt my feelings little boy! You're momma did not teach you how to behave? You celebrate a person's death? Cmon...be a better man!

@On topic: Just so I clarify the clouds in Bhavyy's brain, I am not the voice of QQme. seeler is the voice of QQme same as Nuff_Said is the voice of Vicious.

Bhavyy - Raging Tide wrote: »

And how was this conclusion conjured?
No one has made a spell caster troll thread in months except spell caster recently (LOL) which got closed.
Vicious does not need spell caster. That's... Such a random statement to make (my opinion ofc) xD sorry if I don't understand what you mean by that it just doesn't make sense in y head

Vicious really needs me. Ask Dylena and Nuff_Said. I am like a World Boss, I attract more agro from Vicious in PK then you will ever attract in delta if u solo it.

I think Brillance is one of those people Spell was talking about that play pwi without medication

And Seeler says nothing so I don't see how a person that says nothing can be a voice of a faction. When you have someone like you Spell that is always complaining about something on the forums. Person talking on forums > someone that is rarely if ever seen on forums or posting on forums.