what annoys you the most about NW?

Raphxelion - Raging Tide
Raphxelion - Raging Tide Posts: 207 Arc User
edited March 2013 in Nation Wars
like the title says...
for me the MOST annoying thing in NW is when the opposing nation captures the flag and only 4(if you're lucky) people try and stop the flag carrier while everyone else goes and pks.

If i rolled more with squads all on vent this probably wouldn't happen but usaly i can't do this because i have to log on late (rl stuff) or right when NW starts...b:irritated

I find this very annoying...i mean if more people don't help stop the flag carrier then you loose the damn instance and end up being sent back to base which means you'll be making less points than you could have!!!!b:faint sorry lol
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  • Ridelia - Momaganon
    Ridelia - Momaganon Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    1. When flag carrier goes wrong way.
    2. When in 20vs20 battle 19/20 are bashing each other in constant pvp and a low lvl, slow moving one go for flag and... successfuly capture it.
    3. When I see a flag and call on our chat "Flag E" (or Flag W/Flag middle), wait like 5 mins while succesfully solo killing/disturbing enemies that come and try to pick it. Noone of my side come (20/20 battle). Then I get killed (and teled to spawn point due to ress buff on cooldown) and a while after the enemies take the flag. Fortunately in most cases I am able to stop the flagger since I know which way it is comming. But man! if I call for 5 mins "Flag E!" in 20vs20 battle someone should come and help me get it, right? b:angry I am just a slow mystic, I am not supposed to take a flag myself.
    The worst scenerio was a 20vs20 battle with flag on middle and 20 people bashing each other AROUND middle flag spawn point - noone exept me protected the flag from getting picked and only enemies was getting into the pole where flag was. I saw A LOT of people my side around, just noone of them cared about protecting/getting the flag...
    4. When people generaly don't listen to my advice ("Flag E", "Wrong way!", "Defence!", "Help the flagger!", "Let Frost pass to Flame, we need Flame lose points!" etc).
    5. When we lose a 20vs2 battle. I understand the 2 oponents might be R9 barbs but man! There is 20 of us! All we need to do is stand in flag spawn points, disturb the oponent when he come and get the flag before he do. Then let the flagger ruuun like hell when the rest use control skills on oponent R9 barbs. Its not that hard!
    6. AFK clerics on spawn points when I try to ask them for buffs. b:chuckle
    7. When I try to get to a battle and it fills before I get there so I get teled to base...

    BTW: when you lose a teritory you usually don't get teled to base unless the teritory you were before at is in a battle too now. The only exeption is "instance full->go to base base" bug (look point 7 xD).
  • soundslegit
    soundslegit Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    When you die your genie won't recharge in time to make you competitve before you die again.

    On my seeker I need genie to stop casters. On archer mostly to stop sins but also casters. The immunity period they give you is so short it makes my genie useless. When immunity is over my genie is still useless. HP charms make a huge difference, you respawn with full HP. But without full genie energy I am an easy target.

    Umm, mebbe the idiots running things could change this. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHH
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Anyone under:

    Level 101
    R9
    T3 Nirvana
    R8 recast

    Picking up the flag.
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited February 2013
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Anyone under:

    Level 101
    R9
    T3 Nirvana
    R8 recast

    Picking up the flag.

    Well looks like I'll be playing Dreamweaver for tonight's east coast NW and happily running flags on level 85s. b:cute
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  • OontzOontz - Dreamweaver
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    Well looks like I'll be playing Dreamweaver for tonight's east coast NW and happily running flags on level 85s. b:cute

    ^ That dude.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited February 2013
    On the flip side, at least I'll actually be running the flag instead of completely ignoring it like most people seem to do.

    Besides with Overseer Blessing, O'Malley's, and Charger orbs + run skills + an anti-stun and the holy path boost near the start, even a lowbie can run it fairly well... as long as they aren't an idiot. b:laugh
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The thing Kossy fails to realize is that I don't NW on Dreamweaver. b:chuckle
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited February 2013
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    The thing Kossy fails to realize is that I don't NW on Dreamweaver. b:chuckle

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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »

    Buy FC from me, I could use the money. b:cute
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited February 2013
    Sure thing.

    *pays 1 coin per run*
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    Sure thing.

    *pays 1 coin per run*

    I better be gettin' a little somethin' on the side for that kind of money.
  • Elvenhawk - Heavens Tear
    Elvenhawk - Heavens Tear Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    1) When classes like cleric with no speed skills and apoth and TT90 gear pick flag!
    2) When people get so caught up in the PK they forget the flag is how you win the instance!
    3) When you leap/holy path away and get caught for 3 seconds in a bush while 6 people Kick the **** out of you, and you can't attack/defend because you are stuck in that stupid frickin mid jump position whilst loving no where!

    Otherwise I love it.
  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    1. When I see a damn lowbie sin with bad gear and probably no speed pots to camp at the flag place with me and trying to get in the middle of the thing so I couldnt be able to click the flag when it spawns and the side has enemies... grrrrrr. Just let me grab the damn flag instead of making the win hard to all of us.
    2. When your side rushes to destroy other nation and neglects own
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  • Silhouetta - Lothranis
    Silhouetta - Lothranis Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Spawn killers ... pure and simple
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  • Ois - Lost City
    Ois - Lost City Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Getting base camped by a squad of r9 3rd casts every nw.
  • ShaiFatali - Lost City
    ShaiFatali - Lost City Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, bothers me more than being base-locked, especially when it's one squad of R9RR maintaining one or two of the territories.

    On that note, it also bothers me when you're base-locked, and lowbies charge into the battles as soon as the territories open up, blocking out people that could potentially smash through the base lock. IF YOU STOP THE BASE-LOCK, EVERYBODY WILL GET MORE PERSONAL POINTS. JUST SIT FRIGGIN' TIGHT AND LET THE BIG KIDS DO THEIR JOBS. I have a +6 R9 weapon on my Psy (so certainly not TT90) and I generally wait in base so +12 R9RR's can unblock the nation.

    It's also a little frustrating when you have a few powerful squads in your nation, and they end up just pushing out as far as they can and not defending the lands already owned...I like to think of NW in terms of Risk (the board game). The generally accepted strategy is to expand slowly and reinforce your countries. Unfortunately, that's nearly impossible to coordinate in NW.

    I think those are legitimate grievances. For some QQ that's just part of the game, sins drive me nuts poppin' out of stealth and ganking me lol but it just makes me want to continue to learn to PVP better and improve my gear so it's okay.
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  • Wickedbrew - Raging Tide
    Wickedbrew - Raging Tide Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Two things. Being baselocked, and the effing chat interruptions.

    I picked a PvE server because I don't like PvP, but I accept it in NW, and know I suck at PKing, and don't care how much I die. I play my characters well enough to get a good amount of personal credits (6k to 10k) I just like having fun, and being base locked isn't fun.
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  • Barson - Raging Tide
    Barson - Raging Tide Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dc'ing as you nation base gets land locked b:angry stupid sins grabing flag AND running the wrong way b:angryb:angry an what i hate the most is diggin flag an jump out thew pit with holy path .... AND IT RUBBERBANDS MEEEEEEEE b:cryb:cry
  • darknessofmy
    darknessofmy Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I don't understand how you can enjoy just playing bot games. ****'s boring.
  • soundslegit
    soundslegit Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I had really bad luck getting into competitive battles today, was mostly in very unbalanced battles going both for and against. Tried leaving battle several times and only once did I not go back to base.

    What is the pattern to this? How can I leave a worthless 20 vs 1 battle and not end up at the base?
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  • Reliea - Sanctuary
    Reliea - Sanctuary Posts: 685 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Baselock! >< We need that PWCN update asap!

    2nd most annoying thing is how the chat messages keep interrupting chat ><

    And yes, 3rdly spawn camping.
    It would not be unreasonable to make respawn points pure safe zones. Tiny little circles of relief. You can still pretty safely run flags out of range. Either way getting the flag through the respawn zones should be more challenging.
  • Bhavyy - Raging Tide
    Bhavyy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    People who pm me qqing about being spawn killed after I just killed them. - if you're pming me, you're not fighting and I'm gonna just spawn kill you again.

    Being sent back to base for no apparent reason - land is not full, battle just started etc.

    Being in a nation where no one defends or no one wants to take empty land.

    When the flag resets and no one knows where it is.
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  • Sister_Warui - Raging Tide
    Sister_Warui - Raging Tide Posts: 996 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    My problem is most certainly the low levels rushing in to get out of a base lock and getting filled instead of letting your better gears squads into the instance.
    I say this as a level 99 still in TT. why would I try to hang with R9T3 aggressors? D: so annoying.
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    1. baselocks.

    2. getting repeatedly interrupted on message chat.

    3. the fact that the people that have the biggest pvp advantage get the biggest additional stats potions/attribute increases off those 101-105 nw forge things <= X them off the forges all together.

    OR... reverse them all together,
    -- beginning with giving the current 105 bonus off the forge to only levels 60-99.
    -- and the 104 to 100's.
    -- and the 103 to 101's.
    -- and the 102 stays.
    -- and the 101's to the 103's, or 103+s.
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