P def or hp shards

DemansPsy - Lost City
DemansPsy - Lost City Posts: 359 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Psychic
can't believe I'm asking this but I need to shard my current gear w/ temporary shards so I'm planing on either sharding with immac hp:

http://pwcalc.com/5b0187c507f301a7

or immac garnets:

http://pwcalc.com/47ea11f45a615700

If I shard garnet ill reduce the physical damage im currently taking by ~9% (~11% when fully buffed) but lose ~4.75% hp, so which should i choose? (all shard temporary until i can afford JoSd, which isn't any time soon)
full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Cits.

    Because they have lightning
  • Subtraction - Harshlands
    Subtraction - Harshlands Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Cits.

    because psychic will and expel exist.
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  • BriarIce - Raging Tide
    BriarIce - Raging Tide Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Cits.

    because psychic will and expel exist.

    I say cits too. The reason why is because garnet will protect against physical damage but cits increase your HP, therefore gives you better chances against both physical and magic classes.
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    My reason is still the best
  • Orouhimie - Heavens Tear
    Orouhimie - Heavens Tear Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The true answer is to do a mixture of cits/garns :P its what i did on my psys armor and the results for now are awesome
  • Subtraction - Harshlands
    Subtraction - Harshlands Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The true answer is to do a mixture of cits/garns :P its what i did on my psys armor and the results for now are awesome

    thank you oh mighty and glorious leader for telling us the one (and only one) true answer, that obviously works with all types of armour in all situations all the time.
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    thank you oh mighty and glorious leader for telling us the one (and only one) true answer, that obviously works with all types of armour in all situations all the time.

    Agreed

    Also demans already sharded all his pieces with garnets and cits in wrist

    Perrrrrrfect
  • TheDendra - Harshlands
    TheDendra - Harshlands Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The true answer is to do a mixture of cits/garns :P its what i did on my psys armor and the results for now are awesome

    Then again the true answer is go cits as everybody has already suggested. You've got psy.will+expel and cits are good vs all attacks, not just physical.
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    speaking about HP vs def, does anyone know if you get points in NW based on HP lost or defenses too? In other words, does 1k dmg dealt to you with 4k pdef give you the same points with 1k dmg when your pdef is 2k? If so, another reason for citrines XD
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  • gevonden32
    gevonden32 Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Ill be the change then. Go garnets, because phys is your weakness as an AA class obviously.
  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    JoSDs or gtfo

    /troll

    Anyways cits because lol def levels
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  • Malidega - Archosaur
    Malidega - Archosaur Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    So, I've heard mention of the "Glass Cannon" full DoT psy. which could potentially give you an added 26-27 attk lvls. when combined with Black Voodoo.. you would kill really quickly but yes.. you would be a glass cannon when hit. However, in Sage White Voodoo with a Jones for another 30 attk lvls, plus another 40 on your g16 weapon... that puts you back at your starting attack unbuffed with 72 or more defense lvls depending on gear stats.

    So my question is.. why spend 75m-100m on each JoSD in order to stay in Black Voodoo when you could just spend 15m-20m to get DoT and stay in White Voodoo or have fun in NW playing the part of 'Glass Cannon"?
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    garnets or cits? b:surprised all amateurs...

    +3 atk and/or +3 def lvls stones... b:cool b:sin
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  • TheDendra - Harshlands
    TheDendra - Harshlands Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    So, I've heard mention of the "Glass Cannon" full DoT psy. which could potentially give you an added 26-27 attk lvls. when combined with Black Voodoo.. you would kill really quickly but yes.. you would be a glass cannon when hit. However, in Sage White Voodoo with a Jones for another 30 attk lvls, plus another 40 on your g16 weapon... that puts you back at your starting attack unbuffed with 72 or more defense lvls depending on gear stats.

    So my question is.. why spend 75m-100m on each JoSD in order to stay in Black Voodoo when you could just spend 15m-20m to get DoT and stay in White Voodoo or have fun in NW playing the part of 'Glass Cannon"?

    The answer is because a) you are an idiot, b) you are also a noob, c) you are also lazy. JOSD allows you to make mistakes and play sloppy while tanking like a pro without really doing anything. So if you give to a lazy stupid noob a JOSD and a DOT build psy, he will do better with the JOSD psy because the DOT psy requires more skill to play properly.

    In comparison if you give DOT psy to a good player, he will be more efficient than with a JOSD psy because he would be able to deal more damage while at the same time having virtually identical survivability to a JOSD psy because white voodoo gives you more than enough defense since most endgame people use JOSD builds as well. You don't really need more defense than that to survive and in situations where you're fked, you're fked anyway.

    Defense levels suffer diminishing return at a certain point, so if everybody pumps up their defense levels, you're not really being efficient. This is my primary logic to going for DOT build because it counters JOSD builds while at the same time having sufficient defense levels to cope with their attack levels.

    If you want to get the maximum out of your character, go DOT, if you're too old too clumsy too nooby and/or too lazy, go with JOSD and enjoy the game - and these kind of full JOSD players you can usually see camping in white voodoo scared to death because they haven't got a clue what to do so omg omg let's go white until it's safe to bully someone again.

    I'm not saying JOSD is a bad choice, it has its perks and by all means depending on your play style, you can use it efficiently as well, but it's not the "best" build for psys, it's one of the two best choices and luckily the other choice is ten times cheaper, so you do the math which one you prefer.

    (on a side note, I wouldn't necessarily recommend going DOT with a g16 nirvana gear because you're not as tanky as a r9 recast, at the same time I wouldn't recomment going JOSD either because it's way too expensive for such crappy gear, so go r9 recast if you want to be competitive and then shard what you like because with g16 nirvy you're gonna get ***** by r9 recasts all day).
  • Malidega - Archosaur
    Malidega - Archosaur Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    While your logic seems to be on track with what I was proposing, you last statement throws me a little. I WOULD LOVE TO GO RANK 9.....it's just out of my price range until I am able to farm it in game which will take a while.. I have to get all my ducks in order first. Not everyone can afford to max out a credit card and spend $1500 to get rank 9 gear.. PWI is **** you all with their over priced EVERYTHING in the boutique!
  • XXOGCaliXx - Heavens Tear
    XXOGCaliXx - Heavens Tear Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    i use exclusive garnets, because i get purged and every bit of pdef counts ,and when expel and psy will are in cd , u will be squish.
  • SweetieBot - Lothranis
    SweetieBot - Lothranis Posts: 18,978 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    i use exclusive garnets, because i get purged and every bit of pdef counts ,and when expel and psy will are in cd , u will be squish.
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  • NickHalden - Heavens Tear
    NickHalden - Heavens Tear Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    well this answers my question
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited May 2013
    closed for necro

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