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...and thats why many tend to run those instances with faction-mates and friends - they're a lot less likely to get cheated out of a mold or materials...

On lc server there were also some greedy idiots arround, but even most of those ppl don't care about molds anymore. Badges >>> molds. Tbh I don't have the feeling that there are many ppl left which still need any mold. There is only a demand on dagger molds, all other's (even fists/claws), r not that interesting anymore and barely sell. I suppose it will be like this soon on all servers. It's more or less "go for R9/R999 and care for your main only or gtfo" anyway. Who care's about alts nowdays, I'd not continue gearing them up, even outdated gear is op for all BH runs.

soundslegit wrote: »

No problems with this stuff here on archo.

so the 3-4 ppl which play on this server live together in peace, thats nice to hear b:heart.

Black_wolve - Sanctuary wrote: »

Let's talk about how players misuse and treat others on this game .First of all i like to talk about bh's such as warsong and lunar.

Another QQ incoming..

#1, Players have the idea to use other players in there to farm for the molds this in fact it's true. Players are not only using others but abusing and bullying them as well i noticed if you right a ticket nothing gets done.b:angry

I do know there's a few factons that has the rep to rip people off i wont mention names but i decided to take names and write them all in my note book as a reminder who not to squad with .This is a game to enjoy and have fun with but now sense the years have past this game has in deed changed some say for the worse this is because of how thease players act towards others.

Ummmm? The heck? I am pretty sure EVERYONE need something in those caves or are you now telling me I would abuse other innocent players to get my badges outta FWS/Lunar?
Sure there are thieves and scammers but that is life. You cannot change people.

#2,People may not like me that's fine and yes i have reprted a lot of players in the past for there rude and nasty behaviors i will not put up with any ones **** i am here to enjoy a game not to deal with the bullying etc.I been yelled at swore at and been called names in world chat i refuse to do warsong on my toons after whats been going on by other players making promise's that they dont keep.

Get over it.

What i learn from a few other players who i spoke to there fed up with it and told me that a lot of players make coin of other players charms,pots and just take the mold befor asking any one in that squad if they need it.My advice would be that pwi should change it so a player can't put any mold in to acount stash this would be a good idea.

Lack of communication. If there's problems with the molds deal in the start who takes what molds and which molds will be picked in random squad. If one doesn't answer or steals molds, kick them out of the squad.

This has to stop a lot of players will not do the bh's. Sense the warsong started with the molds people have got nasty and greedy over it i am not saying all but there are a few who decided to make there own rules about how people should play pwi this it self is also true.

What this has to do with BHs?

Some of the factions have become that way as well first it started over what land they own started bullying players telling them they can't dig mats on it untill i reported them according to pwi no faction and no player owns pwi or can control who can dig mats. So i made a few enemys lol.

My feelings are that if this continues a lot more people will quit and will not support pwi and swich to other games wich a lot of players i know have done i keep my account because i put enough time and real money in to it but i do swich to other games.

QQ. Your issues are based on PLAYERS, not PWI. PWI cannot stop all the 9824938984498 idiots coming on the servers.

Last but not least,

Lunar was great years ago there was no fighting over mats everything was random every player paid 500k each that was the way it was now thease factions who make up the rules like a goverment says look you pay 500k coin but you drop everything this is a true fact who out there denies this that some people are so demanding that there very mean treat other players like garbarge .

Never happened on RT.

Thats all she wrote take it or leave it but this post is how players like me are making a stand we wont be pushed around or be told how to play this gameb:laugh

My answers in greeen.

Sanctuary has its typical scammers, yes. But we don't have factions that scam altogether.

Grow up and stop making our server look bad.

Oh right, because I don't agree with you on your screwed view, I'm a scammer...


Also, your idea about making molds unstashable is ****. You know what? I was late to jump on the G16 train. None of my characters could reliably solo a pavillion back then. So I got myself hired as a cleric for faction runs. Got my molds, made the gear. Now I got my character that can defend. And I don't have to bring an undergeared character to slow my squad down, just because I couldn't stash any molds, like you suggest.

Poor delusional guy...

When I used to play PWI, I rarely if ever did stuff with random people, due to the fact that the population has become garbage, speed and greed (with a hint of pure stupidity) is what characterizes PWI now, if at least 1 or more friends/fac mates were not in the squad I didn`t even bother to run with them, sadly almost all my friends have quit of become semi active which was the last straw that even kept me in this game, all in all I feel pity for new players if some decide to try this game, seeing this rotting community will drive them away fast!

luckyd42 wrote: »

there are people that got worse since PWI 4 years ago when i was playing it was everyone shared and now these kids these days don't have any respect for anyone they mock u tell others how to spell no one is perfect and all these kids was to do is sell what they have online for real us dollords and that is why pwi is losing money and i have a right to my oppion and i know that i can't spell that all i have to say

It started in early 2009, when people decided a couple hundred K of repeairs, or charm cost of BB, meant they got first and second pick of the best mats in a run. There would be barbs picking gold mats they didn't need, just to sell them for coin. Even though technically it would be beneficial for my cleric, I had no interest in doing those greedy runs and being that much of a ****. I always preferred the all way split, if someone needs it they can buy at a discount from the group. Everyone wins, and people can't exploit jumping from group to group always needing the same high end items.

As for the factions being scammers, it most likely will appear that way. It might just be the leaders simply don't care what their players behave like, as such the scammers will go there to play as the jerks they are. Then the leader will cry they aren't a faction of scammers, even though it's their apathy that leads to it actually being one for all intents and purposes. It's happened many times in the past in that exact way.

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Grow up and stop making our server look bad.

This. I don't know who you keep running with but this is the second time you've posted this complaint on the forums. I've done Lunar runs with Enelysion, Vindicate, Legendary, Regicide, Kakumau, Espectro, Oldies, and Raventail people. None of them have stolen mats or demanded people drop anything.

1. When PWI first came out, there was no one around to "help" with OP's doing cultis for people... there was no one to power level anyone... there was only the way the game was intended and those people needed to know how to read in order to figure out what to do, where to do it, and actually had to work together in order to do so... These are the people we want to stay, but all too often... these are the people that got fed up and left already... unfortunately, i'd say only 25% or less of the player base fits into this group wether or not they all stayed... and there are less and less of these people coming into the game with each and every month...

2. Today... everyone and anyone with a credit card or mommy & daddy's credit card can get everything and anything they want... i would like to think that such people as these are usually of the generation just getting into college or younger and can be taught better... unfortunately, it is grown adults too... the greater majority of these are rude and obnoxious, just like the greater majority in real life... they likely come from shooter games that were played on clicking a button or two and finding weapon spawns and ammunition spawns... although these people have a great advantage in the quick paced pk arena of past games they've come from... they are also likely to do (and say) anything and everything to get what they want without any regard for anyone unless they are friends with them... and even then can turn on their friends pending on situations... they have used plenty of cheat codes in those past games to gain god mode abilities and advantages over their opponents for sure... unfortunately, these are the type that start saturating any game over time...

3. As far as those that cannot "spell correctly", this means absolutely nothing... consider this... "spelling correctly" is judged on the basis of the english language in this game... the majority of players which is not english speaking as a first language... me, I am from new jersey of the united states, and only know the one language, english (and i barely can read, write, speak, understand or type that correctly b:chuckle )... so i must commend those whom do their best to learn multiple languages and not mock or knock them for doing so... and so should everyone else... my hat is off to you people... (although one day i intend to learn spanish, chinsese, japanese, russian, french, latin, greek perhaps... i realize it may just be a never fulfilled intention, only time will tell...)... The only thing to this however... 1 & 2 equally apply to these people as well... you have your good and bad, its all just percentages really...

4. As far as entire factions being jerks and/or scammers... although unlikely, is possible... many factions ultimately are mde up of "like-minded" people... if jerks and/or scammers are who created a faction, they will likely take in more jerks/scammers or people they can abuse and milk until those abused/milked get fed up after catching on or just having had enough... but in the opposite direction, very good people starting a faction may also unknowingly bring in such "bad seeds" with a greater chance of doing so over time as well (just based on percentages of how people are)... so my guess is no faction on any server are entirely made up of this type... but may very well have a large percentage of this "calliber" of people... a majority of people will do anything and everything to get ahead... hell, ive seen what people are capable of just to get 1 single car length ahead while driving (putting themselves, other drivers and pedestrians at risk of damaging vehicles, injuring others, injuring themselves, and possibly even really killing someone or multiple people), its really scary b:shocked ... so it should come as no surprise as to what people are willing to do when there are no real consequences as far as they are concerned... unfortunately, this too is the majority of people...

Now for chapter 2... b:chuckle (nah, i think i wrote enough already)

@Colum. think you need to stop being a narrow minded, ears full of wax creep and just listen for a change bout what the rest of us are saying. True the game has changed over the last 4 years since it first started, but i dont think you need to knock someone down just to make yourself feel superior. scammers affect bhs in a bunch of ways. the first being where your normal average players who are just here for the fun of taking a challenge or are farming for something (in this case the molds in WS) have to end up either not getting the molds that they are after or wont be running that particular instance again even if it is with faction mates. take a really hard look at what really goes on before you publish your opinion. scammers affect instance runs like fleas or termites. always ruining the normal player who comes on here to enjoy a friendly game instead of getting bullied, name called or shoved around like he was some kind of throw pillow that you can beat up on when some player doesnt get their way. we all have a right to our opinions in our own way, but by the looks of things you have just crossed the line of beyond rude. If you cant handle being on these forums and be just a little bit nicer to someone who has a different view point with a more accurate point to make, then maybe those ppl who have an accurate point to make should call you a troll for being unpleasant and possibly rude or ignorant. Plus the vast majority of us normal average players wont sink to a lowlifes level just to get what we want. this is suppose to be a game and not a personal people bashing screen exam. so get this through your thick head, we squad with randoms to make friends and to make this game a little more enjoyable stead of having it where players use each other just to get something that we want all the time. that is not how pwi was made and i certainly dont see it as the intent of it. I dont think Black_wolve is blaming anyone just toward those who are responsible for being scammers and idiots. You also say either adapt or quit, what bout those that arent scammers, thieves and idiots who have put in alot of dough into this game over the years. players just wont quit or leave something that they have put in alot of money into regardless of how rough the road may be at this point. Alot of us veterans of pwi like or want to stay cause of all the friends we have made here and also maybe hoping one day pw might end up fixing some of the things that we have been complaining on these forums bout (which i dont see happening anytime soon or at all).

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Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

@Colum. think you need to stop being a narrow minded, ears full of wax creep and just listen for a change bout what the rest of us are saying.

I am reading and I ain't narrow minded but you guys seem to miss the point

True the game has changed over the last 4 years since it first started, but i dont think you need to knock someone down just to make yourself feel superior.

Superior? Never felt superior or was knocking anyone down thank you. I am just straight with my words.

scammers affect bhs in a bunch of ways. the first being where your normal average players who are just here for the fun of taking a challenge or are farming for something (in this case the molds in WS) have to end up either not getting the molds that they are after or wont be running that particular instance again even if it is with faction mates. take a really hard look at what really goes on before you publish your opinion. scammers affect instance runs like fleas or termites. always ruining the normal player who comes on here to enjoy a friendly game instead of getting bullied, name called or shoved around like he was some kind of throw pillow that you can beat up on when some player doesnt get their way.

Sure there are these people but I cannot seem to understand how half of the server would act like this (as it sounds) because if there were only few people like this wouldn't they be easy to avoid? RT doesn't have this problem and my friends from dreamweaver and lost city havent complained about this either so this issue isn't so bad at all servers. We also need to remember there are and will be bullies everywhere - in school, hobbies, work and even the game.


we all have a right to our opinions in our own way, but by the looks of things you have just crossed the line of beyond rude. If you cant handle being on these forums and be just a little bit nicer to someone who has a different view point with a more accurate point to make, then maybe those ppl who have an accurate point to make should call you a troll for being unpleasant and possibly rude or ignorant. Plus the vast majority of us normal average players wont sink to a lowlifes level just to get what we want. this is suppose to be a game and not a personal people bashing screen exam. so get this through your thick head, we squad with randoms to make friends and to make this game a little more enjoyable stead of having it where players use each other just to get something that we want all the time. that is not how pwi was made and i certainly dont see it as the intent of it. I dont think Black_wolve is blaming anyone just toward those who are responsible for being scammers and idiots. You also say either adapt or quit, what bout those that arent scammers, thieves and idiots who have put in alot of dough into this game over the years. players just wont quit or leave something that they have put in alot of money into regardless of how rough the road may be at this point. Alot of us veterans of pwi like or want to stay cause of all the friends we have made here and also maybe hoping one day pw might end up fixing some of the things that we have been complaining on these forums bout (which i dont see happening anytime soon or at all).

I actually never was rude. As I stated ealier my talking way is very straight and very harsh, I like to get my point clearly through and that isn't trolling. It is rather frustrating and also sad to see you insulting me like that for being "rude", which I never was. There is a difference between being rude and stating out opinions and points.
Of course this game is for fun and entertainment but you seem not to get the fact that PWI and it's team cannot make miracles. They cannot make this game to be friendly to all players out there. Game content has changed and so change people. Sure PWI could try to make it be like before but would people be interested of it anymore? Even if they would there are always the unhappy greedy scammers. I was offering options to avoid them. If you still want to stick with random squads then do so but also remember the risks of it.

My answers in this lovely colour. Thank you for your time and listening.