Make Basic Badge tradeable...
Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
Posts: 2,385 Arc User
So PWI... I am not one of those whinners that are always complaining about too poor to buy this, too poor to buy that, this is too hard for me so make it easier. I can solo pretty much any PvE instance... although I don't have the time to do so.
I bought your freaking expensive (according to some people) ****. I was one of the people who got the cv bow in within the first week of anni pack... think I may be one of the only two on HT who decided to drop a few hundred gold to second socket that. I got my r9 and +12 before rep was anywhere near cashshop. I was also the first few who got a complete set of r9 with refines in the first month of of the sale. And now... I am full stage two r9.
The logical gear progression would to be thrid cast my r9... but I don't have the time to farm all those basic badges. If you (PWI) would check my account, you would know that I easily have the gold to refine/buy whatever I want. But now... instead of me spending my money buying your expensive ****... my money is just sitting there taunting you. Granted its all virtual currency and probably has long been logged in your books. You still need people to spend their saved money, before any new money goes in.
So I am suggesting that you have basic badges tradeable. This way... the country peasants, who have more time then money on their hands, can have a new source of farming alternative. People like me will benefit by buying the badges instead of wasting our time farming it. And you guys (PWI) will benefit from by possible higher zen purchases.
I bought your freaking expensive (according to some people) ****. I was one of the people who got the cv bow in within the first week of anni pack... think I may be one of the only two on HT who decided to drop a few hundred gold to second socket that. I got my r9 and +12 before rep was anywhere near cashshop. I was also the first few who got a complete set of r9 with refines in the first month of of the sale. And now... I am full stage two r9.
The logical gear progression would to be thrid cast my r9... but I don't have the time to farm all those basic badges. If you (PWI) would check my account, you would know that I easily have the gold to refine/buy whatever I want. But now... instead of me spending my money buying your expensive ****... my money is just sitting there taunting you. Granted its all virtual currency and probably has long been logged in your books. You still need people to spend their saved money, before any new money goes in.
So I am suggesting that you have basic badges tradeable. This way... the country peasants, who have more time then money on their hands, can have a new source of farming alternative. People like me will benefit by buying the badges instead of wasting our time farming it. And you guys (PWI) will benefit from by possible higher zen purchases.
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With NW people can get easy cannies/raptures, so seriously if they can't make a few run to get basic badges it's more than be lazy...
It's pretty much the last thing people need to farm and you want to remove it... lol...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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While you wait on their response:
-Spend money on hax 5aps sin
-Get other hax 5aps sins
-Open multiple ws instances
-Stealth to boss and kill it using immunity pots
-Repeat for easy cashshopped badges
-Account stash badges to archer[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Please, move to a private server if u wanna be that lazy b:surrender0
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Just put badges into the cash shop for 1 gold each \o/[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I could understand that people suggest to put 1 badge for each bh reward, cause at the max people could get 2 each day. (on each char)
Let's say you need around 250 badges (some over for reroll), it's like 42 runs, at like 2 each day which is not that bad that mean 21 days or even 42 days if can't do 2 each day.
Plus if you do bh lunar and snake that give badges as well.0 -
Heck no to all. Good as is. Makes you actually have to do work to get you gear not cash or sit around. So get up and go farm you badges -_- only takes 1 hour per WS for norm squad so isn't that long.101 Blademaster(Pro/Fail 4.0 BM with 11k base HP+G16(+10))
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Runemine - Dreamweaver wrote: »Heck no to all. Good as is. Makes you actually have to do work to get you gear not cash or sit around. So get up and go farm you badges -_- only takes 1 hour per WS for norm squad so isn't that long.
+1, couldn't have said it better myself.0 -
Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »So PWI... I am not one of those whinners that are always complaining about too poor to buy this, too poor to buy that, this is too hard for me so make it easier. I can solo pretty much any PvE instance... although I don't have the time to do so.
I bought your freaking expensive (according to some people) ****. I was one of the people who got the cv bow in within the first week of anni pack... think I may be one of the only two on HT who decided to drop a few hundred gold to second socket that. I got my r9 and +12 before rep was anywhere near cashshop. I was also the first few who got a complete set of r9 with refines in the first month of of the sale. And now... I am full stage two r9.
The logical gear progression would to be thrid cast my r9... but I don't have the time to farm all those basic badges. If you (PWI) would check my account, you would know that I easily have the gold to refine/buy whatever I want. But now... instead of me spending my money buying your expensive ****... my money is just sitting there taunting you. Granted its all virtual currency and probably has long been logged in your books. You still need people to spend their saved money, before any new money goes in.
So I am suggesting that you have basic badges tradeable. This way... the country peasants, who have more time then money on their hands, can have a new source of farming alternative. People like me will benefit by buying the badges instead of wasting our time farming it. And you guys (PWI) will benefit from by possible higher zen purchases.
everything i quoted = why NOT to make basic badges tradeable... you obviously ARE one of the whiners when it comes to actually having to take time to do stuff... gratz on having money and being able to buy everything tho b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
yes lets all thank Kiyoshi for paying for our gaming experience !b:pleased
Thank you Kiyoshi, and what a great underscript you have ! really, i mean it, way cool.0 -
To the OP
R9 = Mog+gst
R9 2nd cast = summerwind tokens
R9 3rd cast = Free or chienkun stones
The chienkun stones are only there to transfer refines.
Now think about this, pwi needs to make claims for their marketing stuff, right?
They force you to do Warsong/Lunar for 1~4 hours a day. You are online in the game for at least 1~4 hours this way. 100% assured.
If the items are available in the boutique or tradeable, you will only show up when you go to tw, nw or on the off chance want to have some pk fun.
This way pwi ensure that while farming warsong you are using, charms, pots, paying repair bills. That means charging gold for you, making money out of it. Indirectly the badges are up for sale in gold terms, just depends on your cost b:pleased.
As for the idea, it is something to think about, the amount of badges needed for full gear is insane be it g16 or r9 route. Most people don't farm. Lots of r9 people are stuck at r9 2nd cast because they have similar issues. Which suits me fine because i farm, and i can kill them easily in nw.0 -
I personally enjoy see heavy C$er doing PVE cause they cannot just buy those badges. xD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Runemine - Dreamweaver wrote: »Heck no to all. Good as is. Makes you actually have to do work to get you gear not cash or sit around. So get up and go farm you badges -_- only takes 1 hour per WS for norm squad so isn't that long.
perfect reply b:laugh0 -
There was a point where I wished for my own personal gain (upgrading my own gear to full final recast) that the badges were tradable but now i look back on it, i guess this way its better otherwise everyone just runs around with top 10% rolls on their weapons and armour. This way by being lucky my stuff can stay better than everyone elses b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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The CSers will get their badges eventually, might as well pay me while they do it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Why not, the cash shoppers aren't gonna learn anything from spamming WS anyway. It's not like it's super difficult, run in>faceroll content>collect badges>repeat. Tradeable badges would be pretty neat for the lazy people.0
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Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »As for the idea, it is something to think about, the amount of badges needed for full gear is insane be it g16 or r9 route. Most people don't farm. Lots of r9 people are stuck at r9 2nd cast because they have similar issues. Which suits me fine because i farm, and i can kill them easily in nw.
Try not to focus on the badge just yet but consider increasing the number of ws runs players could do first. As it is imo, ws is under apreciated even though its alot of fun and a very good instance. It may be possible to increase the number of badge people can get their hands on which leads to benefiting everyone in the sense of real growth. Pw should be able to profit from it but not by selling it directly from the boutique but by other means such as increasing demand for charm where players will find it worth the cost for one reason or another.
Some rough thoughts worth thinking about is that, ws is an instance where:
- 2 similar squade can take 1 - 2.5 hrs to complete which 2.5 hrs is too long. The 2.5 hr squade could purchase certain item to reduce this time. eg. A quick recovery from a failed defence or some kind of 2nd chance.
- xp could be gain by running a rainbow squade where xp gains are limited but are targeted for lvl 101 - 102.
- there are 2 types of badge which are for the same use where type 1 non tradable but type 2 is. There may be more of one type over the other.
- people can and will do more recast for their armour but not necessarily their weap. Increase growth in number of runs at the expense of variation of armours but maintain variation of weaps in the short - medium term.
- similar to 2x drop, a 2nd or 3rd type of badge can be purchase from a quest npc to double the amount of badge at the end of the ws run, but for a limited time only. The idea is to help full time employees/students catch up with the rest so they don't fall too far behind. They could also purchase a portion from players too but they still have to do enough runs themself so that majority will reach atleast say 60-70% of their ability.0 -
How boring would the game be if you were able to buy everything in the game without farming any of it? What would be the point of playing? So you buy all your gear, then what? Do NW 2 times, TW 2 times? Makes no sense to even bother playing if every time something new comes out, people want to put the matts, gear, flyers, wings, fash all in the boutique or make it tradeable. Hell, people are even complaining that they want an easier way to level toons by buying exp. It wouldn't be a game if they made it that easy. So basically PWI should turn into a place to shop , then log off or park in west to show off what you bought.R9s3 Beast w/Demon Facepalm0
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Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear wrote: »How boring would the game be if you were able to buy everything in the game without farming any of it? What would be the point of playing? So you buy all your gear, then what? Do NW 2 times, TW 2 times? Makes no sense to even bother playing if every time something new comes out, people want to put the matts, gear, flyers, wings, fash all in the boutique or make it tradeable. Hell, people are even complaining that they want an easier way to level toons by buying exp. It wouldn't be a game if they made it that easy. So basically PWI should turn into a place to shop , then log off or park in west to show off what you bought.
I think maybe we need to inform people what a TV is b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Hmm. I'd say Yes only because it would open up a new market. I mean think about it. What is there that you can efficiently farm multiple times a day, everyday, to make good amounts of money aside from TT?Zsw -104 Sage Assassin
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